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[Tape Dog]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

I'm on the right for the most part. I'm probably more of a libertarian, but if I had to pick Dem / Rep, I'll almost always vote Republican.

Always R

[MediocreAtBest]

I'm for whichever candidate doesn't want to keep bombing the shit out of countries.

Do these exist? (Maybe Sanders and Paul to a degree) Trump and Clinton seemed to be constantly trying to prove they were the more hawkish candidate.

Clinton's hawkishness was the main reason I couldn't vote for her. Trump...well he's trump so that wasn't gonna happen either lol. I liked Sanders, he wasn't a "great" candidate by any means but I think he was the shift away from the norm that should've happened. I don't mind Paul but it always seems like there's some sort of catch with him as soon as he says something that makes sense.

[Mint-Berry_Crunch]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

ooooooh boy you will be ripped to shreds in the off-topics if you make it there. A fellow C/O 2020 poster, bwaldorf, is certainly right of center. She has been harassed a bit for that because this site is super liberal. I personally am a small "l" libertarian. I usually vote left because of my social liberalness. I vote libertarian when it's an option, even though some of the platforms for the party are whacky. but otherwise often vote Dem. I vote for some repubs in the local elections because everyone in my area is pretty far right regardless of party affiliation.

Libertarians also get ripped to shreds on here. #TaxationIsTheft #DefendThe2nd #LegalizeFreedom

I voted for Gary in 2016

I describe myself as a small l libertarian as well, but in the old sense of the word. I'm a libertarian socialist, I probably identify mostly with Luxemburgism. Support a small central government and direct democracy, But I'm also an anti-capitalist, which puts me pretty far from the US Libertarian Party policy. Johnson might be slightly less awful than Clinton in my mind due to foreign policy alone, but I threw my vote away with Stein instead.

I'm ignorant how to do you reconcile libertarianism and anti capitalism


Like the role of the gov then is only to monitor/direct economy?

I mean, anarchism is certainly both libertarian and anti-capitalist. Rojava, the northern (Kurdish) part of Syria, is a bit of an experiment in libertarian socialism ("democratic confederalism" is the name of the specific ideology). Organization there tends to be at the level of towns or villages, the central government is existent but quite weak.

Luxemburg was the leader of the German Communist Party, and opposed Leninism as undemocratic, she supported a free press and direct democratic control of institutions.

And honestly not a big fan of Stein tbh, but by far my favorite of her, Trump, Clinton, and Johnson.

My question was more, how do you, on a theoretical level, justify having these two beliefs? Because economic policy under libertarianism seems to be pretty hands off, which is a part of capitalism.


If you're anti capitalist, what actually are you? Like, you support a more active role of government in the economy? This would seem to violate libertarianism as I understand it.
As you've described it, the libertarianism as it's used by you and jimmy seems to only deal with like, personal rights.

Does that kinda show where I'm confused

[Jack_Kelly]

A genuinely anti-war, principled candidate the media made every attempt to marginalize (successfully): Dennis Kucinich.

His politics have aged extremely well, and his liberal critics'....have not, to say the least

[MediocreAtBest]

A genuinely anti-war, principled candidate the media made every attempt to marginalize (successfully): Dennis Kucinich.

His politics have aged extremely well, and his liberal critics'....have not, to say the least

Adam Johnson is a good follow on twitter. And yeah I find centrist dems to be a pretty slimy group in general.

[Mint-Berry_Crunch]

This thread needs more pws

[Jack_Kelly]

I'm for whichever candidate doesn't want to keep bombing the shit out of countries.

Do these exist? (Maybe Sanders and Paul to a degree) Trump and Clinton seemed to be constantly trying to prove they were the more hawkish candidate.

Clinton's hawkishness was the main reason I couldn't vote for her. Trump...well he's trump so that wasn't gonna happen either lol. I liked Sanders, he wasn't a "great" candidate by any means but I think he was the shift away from the norm that should've happened. I don't mind Paul but it always seems like there's some sort of catch with him as soon as he says something that makes sense.

I 100% agree. I was leaning toward a lesser evil vote for Clinton until she doubled down on the Russophobia, insane promise to institute no fly zone in Syria (which it looks like Trump will do anyway).

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

ooooooh boy you will be ripped to shreds in the off-topics if you make it there. A fellow C/O 2020 poster, bwaldorf, is certainly right of center. She has been harassed a bit for that because this site is super liberal. I personally am a small "l" libertarian. I usually vote left because of my social liberalness. I vote libertarian when it's an option, even though some of the platforms for the party are whacky. but otherwise often vote Dem. I vote for some repubs in the local elections because everyone in my area is pretty far right regardless of party affiliation.

Libertarians also get ripped to shreds on here. #TaxationIsTheft #DefendThe2nd #LegalizeFreedom

I voted for Gary in 2016

I describe myself as a small l libertarian as well, but in the old sense of the word. I'm a libertarian socialist, I probably identify mostly with Luxemburgism. Support a small central government and direct democracy, But I'm also an anti-capitalist, which puts me pretty far from the US Libertarian Party policy. Johnson might be slightly less awful than Clinton in my mind due to foreign policy alone, but I threw my vote away with Stein instead.

I'm ignorant how to do you reconcile libertarianism and anti capitalism


Like the role of the gov then is only to monitor/direct economy?

I mean, anarchism is certainly both libertarian and anti-capitalist. Rojava, the northern (Kurdish) part of Syria, is a bit of an experiment in libertarian socialism ("democratic confederalism" is the name of the specific ideology). Organization there tends to be at the level of towns or villages, the central government is existent but quite weak.

Luxemburg was the leader of the German Communist Party, and opposed Leninism as undemocratic, she supported a free press and direct democratic control of institutions.

And honestly not a big fan of Stein tbh, but by far my favorite of her, Trump, Clinton, and Johnson.

My question was more, how do you, on a theoretical level, justify having these two beliefs? Because economic policy under libertarianism seems to be pretty hands off, which is a part of capitalism.


If you're anti capitalist, what actually are you? Like, you support a more active role of government in the economy? This would seem to violate libertarianism as I understand it.
As you've described it, the libertarianism as it's used by you and jimmy seems to only deal with like, personal rights.

Does that kinda show where I'm confused

That really is the only core of libertarianism. Libertarian socialists tend to support democratic organization of the workforce, free elections and press (mostly at the more local level), and to oppose central planning in the centralized, bureaucratic sense of the Soviet model. Whether they support central planning at all varies by the degree of libertarianism. When I call myself a libertarian Marxist, I mainly mean I am not a Leninist. Anarchists are libertarian-er than Luxemburgists, many of them would oppose all planning, support immediate abolition of all government and wages- something I think should come about more slowly.

And Adam Johnson is my single favorite political Twitter.

[Slippin' Jimmy]

Did anyone else just get the email from TTT Barry U that had "LSAT Scores" in the subject line? That was just cruel.

I almost pissed my pants after glancing at that subject.

[Slippin' Jimmy]

I'm for whichever candidate doesn't want to keep bombing the shit out of countries.

Do these exist? (Maybe Sanders and Paul to a degree) Trump and Clinton seemed to be constantly trying to prove they were the more hawkish candidate.

Clinton's hawkishness was the main reason I couldn't vote for her. Trump...well he's trump so that wasn't gonna happen either lol. I liked Sanders, he wasn't a "great" candidate by any means but I think he was the shift away from the norm that should've happened. I don't mind Paul but it always seems like there's some sort of catch with him as soon as he says something that makes sense.

I 100% agree. I was leaning toward a lesser evil vote for Clinton until she doubled down on the Russophobia, insane promise to institute no fly zone in Syria (which it looks like Trump will do anyway).

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

ooooooh boy you will be ripped to shreds in the off-topics if you make it there. A fellow C/O 2020 poster, bwaldorf, is certainly right of center. She has been harassed a bit for that because this site is super liberal. I personally am a small "l" libertarian. I usually vote left because of my social liberalness. I vote libertarian when it's an option, even though some of the platforms for the party are whacky. but otherwise often vote Dem. I vote for some repubs in the local elections because everyone in my area is pretty far right regardless of party affiliation.

Libertarians also get ripped to shreds on here. #TaxationIsTheft #DefendThe2nd #LegalizeFreedom

I voted for Gary in 2016

I describe myself as a small l libertarian as well, but in the old sense of the word. I'm a libertarian socialist, I probably identify mostly with Luxemburgism. Support a small central government and direct democracy, But I'm also an anti-capitalist, which puts me pretty far from the US Libertarian Party policy. Johnson might be slightly less awful than Clinton in my mind due to foreign policy alone, but I threw my vote away with Stein instead.

I'm ignorant how to do you reconcile libertarianism and anti capitalism


Like the role of the gov then is only to monitor/direct economy?

I mean, anarchism is certainly both libertarian and anti-capitalist. Rojava, the northern (Kurdish) part of Syria, is a bit of an experiment in libertarian socialism ("democratic confederalism" is the name of the specific ideology). Organization there tends to be at the level of towns or villages, the central government is existent but quite weak.

Luxemburg was the leader of the German Communist Party, and opposed Leninism as undemocratic, she supported a free press and direct democratic control of institutions.

And honestly not a big fan of Stein tbh, but by far my favorite of her, Trump, Clinton, and Johnson.

My question was more, how do you, on a theoretical level, justify having these two beliefs? Because economic policy under libertarianism seems to be pretty hands off, which is a part of capitalism.


If you're anti capitalist, what actually are you? Like, you support a more active role of government in the economy? This would seem to violate libertarianism as I understand it.
As you've described it, the libertarianism as it's used by you and jimmy seems to only deal with like, personal rights.

Does that kinda show where I'm confused

That really is the only core of libertarianism. Libertarian socialists tend to support democratic organization of the workforce, free elections and press (mostly at the more local level), and to oppose central planning in the centralized, bureaucratic sense of the Soviet model. Whether they support central planning at all varies by the degree of libertarianism. When I call myself a libertarian Marxist, I mainly mean I am not a Leninist. Anarchists are libertarian-er than Luxemburgists, many of them would oppose all planning, support immediate abolition of all government and wages- something I think should come about more slowly.

And Adam Johnson is my single favorite political Twitter.

When I say I'm a libertarian I mean that I'm a right wing libertarian/classical liberal which is the common understanding of libertarianism in the modern US political climate. Most people don't describe your views as libertarian anymore and using the term for any kind of Marxism really is antiquated. Its like using "liberal" to describe Jeffersonian/Lockean ideology when today liberal almost always refers to the social liberalism/progressivism of the US Left.

[coskigirl]

Did anyone else just get the email from TTT Barry U that had "LSAT Scores" in the subject line? That was just cruel.

I almost pissed my pants after glancing at that subject.

I woke up at 4am to an email from "lsac_notice@lsac.org". Before I read the subject line I nearly puked. It was a Notice of Transcript Receipt.

[Jack_Kelly]

(avoiding quoting that huge block)

That's kinda true in the US, but not really elsewhere. To say one is very liberal in the US essentially means they are a social democrat. But liberal means center to center-right in the UK, Canada, Australia, basically everywhere else. There is certainly still a libertarian socialist current in the US- I'd call most of the DSA that, and they are growing quickly, and Chomsky, probably the most prominent anti-capitalist in the country, identifies as such.

[Purptort]

I'm pretty mainstream conservative. Going into the primary I really wanted Jeb or Rubio (or anyone but Trump, Cruz, Carson or Fiorina). It's annoying that a sizable chunk of the party had a revolution right when the Republicans were set to take back the presidency. Disharmony isn't going to help any conservative agenda. I interned on the hill and am actually more positive about Congress than most people, but I think the other two branches have gotten a little out of control.

[Future Ex-Engineer]

I'm pretty mainstream conservative. Going into the primary I really wanted Jeb or Rubio (or anyone but Trump, Cruz, Carson or Fiorina). It's annoying that a sizable chunk of the party had a revolution right when the Republicans were set to take back the presidency. Disharmony isn't going to help any conservative agenda. I interned on the hill and am actually more positive about Congress than most people, but I think the other two branches have gotten a little out of control.

Let's dispel this notion...

[tuna_wasabi]

The candidate referral system (CRS) is opted into on your LSAC account online. It's how you get tons fee waivers. I received waivers from every school other than HYS, Columbia, Penn, Gtown, and Cornell through this system. I asked these schools for waivers, only got 1 from Gtown. Oddly enough, I only paid the app fee for 1 school and it's where I'm going

Has anyone ever got fee waiver from the HYS CCN?

[chandhi]

The candidate referral system (CRS) is opted into on your LSAC account online. It's how you get tons fee waivers. I received waivers from every school other than HYS, Columbia, Penn, Gtown, and Cornell through this system. I asked these schools for waivers, only got 1 from Gtown. Oddly enough, I only paid the app fee for 1 school and it's where I'm going

Has anyone ever got fee waiver from the HYS CCN?

Yeah I got CCN

[heyduchess]

I'm pretty mainstream conservative. Going into the primary I really wanted Jeb or Rubio (or anyone but Trump, Cruz, Carson or Fiorina). It's annoying that a sizable chunk of the party had a revolution right when the Republicans were set to take back the presidency. Disharmony isn't going to help any conservative agenda. I interned on the hill and am actually more positive about Congress than most people, but I think the other two branches have gotten a little out of control.

I was raised in the South, but live in Cali, so I'm not hardcore Dem or Republican either and I totalllly voted for Jeb!

On that note....https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-p3 ... 0amlujw01y

[Mint-Berry_Crunch]

Can this thread even get to 180

[tuna_wasabi]

The candidate referral system (CRS) is opted into on your LSAC account online. It's how you get tons fee waivers. I received waivers from every school other than HYS, Columbia, Penn, Gtown, and Cornell through this system. I asked these schools for waivers, only got 1 from Gtown. Oddly enough, I only paid the app fee for 1 school and it's where I'm going

Has anyone ever got fee waiver from the HYS CCN?

Yeah I got CCN

How did you ask for it, o Wise One? Email them your resume, LSAT score, and GPA?

[MediocreAtBest]

I'm pretty mainstream conservative. Going into the primary I really wanted Jeb or Rubio (or anyone but Trump, Cruz, Carson or Fiorina). It's annoying that a sizable chunk of the party had a revolution right when the Republicans were set to take back the presidency. Disharmony isn't going to help any conservative agenda. I interned on the hill and am actually more positive about Congress than most people, but I think the other two branches have gotten a little out of control.

I was raised in the South, but live in Cali, so I'm not hardcore Dem or Republican either and I totalllly voted for Jeb!

On that note....https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-p3 ... 0amlujw01y

please clap

[chandhi]

The candidate referral system (CRS) is opted into on your LSAC account online. It's how you get tons fee waivers. I received waivers from every school other than HYS, Columbia, Penn, Gtown, and Cornell through this system. I asked these schools for waivers, only got 1 from Gtown. Oddly enough, I only paid the app fee for 1 school and it's where I'm going

Has anyone ever got fee waiver from the HYS CCN?

Yeah I got CCN

How did you ask for it, o Wise One? Email them your resume, LSAT score, and GPA?

Nope, just signed up for CRS. The fee waivers were unsolicited

[Walliums]

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[Walliums]

The candidate referral system (CRS) is opted into on your LSAC account online. It's how you get tons fee waivers. I received waivers from every school other than HYS, Columbia, Penn, Gtown, and Cornell through this system. I asked these schools for waivers, only got 1 from Gtown. Oddly enough, I only paid the app fee for 1 school and it's where I'm going

Has anyone ever got fee waiver from the HYS CCN?

Yeah I got CCN

Okay I know what HYS is... is CCN Chicago, Columbia, NYU?

[MediocreAtBest]

Nope, just signed up for CRS. The fee waivers were unsolicited

When did you get the waivers? After you had an LSAT score?

[chandhi]

The candidate referral system (CRS) is opted into on your LSAC account online. It's how you get tons fee waivers. I received waivers from every school other than HYS, Columbia, Penn, Gtown, and Cornell through this system. I asked these schools for waivers, only got 1 from Gtown. Oddly enough, I only paid the app fee for 1 school and it's where I'm going

Has anyone ever got fee waiver from the HYS CCN?

Yeah I got CCN

Okay I know what HYS is... is CCN Chicago, Columbia, NYU?

Yep!

[chandhi]

Nope, just signed up for CRS. The fee waivers were unsolicited

When did you get the waivers? After you had an LSAT score?

Yes! Usually within a week or so after score release