The Official June 2016 Study Group Forum

[20170322]

Slowly but surely, learning how to do these distribution games. Gonna keep doing logic games until test day.

[YupSports]

After drilling RC, I'm beginning to think my poor performance on RC was not indicative of my skills.

PTing tomorrow with RC as the 5th section.

[abcdefg1234567]

PT 43 today. Feel a lot better about LR after getting some advice. RC still killing me. LG is, well, let's hope I can remain this consistent on test day

168

RC -6
LR -4
LR -4
LG -0

174 after reviewing. Still a couple questions that make my head go wtf.

[abcdefg1234567]

After drilling RC, I'm beginning to think my poor performance on RC was not indicative of my skills.

PTing tomorrow with RC as the 5th section.

Same boat! I'm definitely doing this too. When did you start 5 section PT's?

[appind]

just finished taking pt-77.

176

pleased with the result as i thought i missed quite a few on g3 of the LG. LR1 felt ok but i changed one answer at the last moment to what i think is a wrong choice. RC didn't feel very out of ordinary. LR2 surprisingly felt easy but i was stumped by one question in the later part of the test that took a lot of time and made me rush on a few questions toward the end. will be blind reviewing it over the week.

Damn, congrats on the 176! That test slayed me IRL.

dec score? have you tried taking it since? it also slayed me in dec mainly lg where I missed more than 5

[appind]

99 more to go for 180 before Jun 6

[guppiesbaby]

just finished taking pt-77.

176

pleased with the result as i thought i missed quite a few on g3 of the LG. LR1 felt ok but i changed one answer at the last moment to what i think is a wrong choice. RC didn't feel very out of ordinary. LR2 surprisingly felt easy but i was stumped by one question in the later part of the test that took a lot of time and made me rush on a few questions toward the end. will be blind reviewing it over the week.

Damn, congrats on the 176! That test slayed me IRL.

dec score? have you tried taking it since? it also slayed me in dec mainly lg where I missed more than 5

I still have PTSD from it, couldn't even bear to look at which specific questions I got wrong in which sections and so on. I would probably do a lot better on it if I took it now, as I've improved overall by like 15 points on my PTs. But oh man. I get the cold sweats thinking about that test. Especially the 3rd game.

I should probably take it before the June exam but haven't worked up the courage yet.

[nerdylsat]

PT C2: 166

LR1: -4
LR2 -1
LG: -6 (wtf)
RC: -3

Pretty tight curve and I don't know why but the LG really threw me off. It seems a hard LG section is a lot worse for me than a hard RC/LR section, because just one game wrong can mean 5+ answers wrong.

I'd be scoring in the 170s if not for LG

nice rc/lr score. lg is supposedly easier to improve

Thanks! I'm just hoping I don't get a weird game in June like in December.

Drilling LG packets all the way till June.

[YupSports]

PT 43 today. Feel a lot better about LR after getting some advice. RC still killing me. LG is, well, let's hope I can remain this consistent on test day

168

RC -6
LR -4
LR -4
LG -0

174 after reviewing. Still a couple questions that make my head go wtf.

Nice LG!

[20170322]

I'm worried there isn't enough time to get LG down before the June test

Postponing to September would suck, but may be the right call.

[appind]

PT C2: 166

LR1: -4
LR2 -1
LG: -6 (wtf)
RC: -3

Pretty tight curve and I don't know why but the LG really threw me off. It seems a hard LG section is a lot worse for me than a hard RC/LR section, because just one game wrong can mean 5+ answers wrong.

I'd be scoring in the 170s if not for LG

nice rc/lr score. lg is supposedly easier to improve

Thanks! I'm just hoping I don't get a weird game in June like in December.

Drilling LG packets all the way till June.

I am surprised that that game didn't affect the curve. if only lsac released data about distribution of misses among test takers for individual sections, that'd be interesting

[YupSports]

I'm worried there isn't enough time to get LG down before the June test

Postponing to September would suck, but may be the right call.

You can do it in time!

There wasn't really any build-up for me; things just "clicked" one day in the middle of drilling.

[abcdefg1234567]

I'm worried there isn't enough time to get LG down before the June test

Postponing to September would suck, but may be the right call.

Have you tried running your own hypotheticals before hitting the questions? Sometimes it helps me to think about different scenarios before moving forward, especially those that would create strict limitations. Even spending a 20 to 30 seconds might be helpful and could save you from making silly mistakes.

[cantis]

Just graded a portion of PT 66. Got absolutely wrecked by RC. I think I need to rethink my strategy

[Mikey]

Anyone else occasionally slip up in LG when a question asks you for a complete and accurate list of possibilities for something? I get so confused sometimes whether it's asking for all possibilities of where something could go, or for the possibility of where it could go at the same time. If I get any questions wrong in LG, these are usually among them, BOOOO!

I feel like I didn't write this clear, but if anyone cares, I'm talking about a question such as PT43 S4 Q18.

[Hennessy]

PT 54, June 2008: 167

RC: -4
LR1 -4
LG: -2
LR2 -3

Having this issue where I understand all four LG games easily, and in my overconfidence, I'll misread a question premise and confidently choose a wrong answer. This has happened with at least one question on my last four PTs.

Also noticing that all my missed LR q's are Q18 or later - I think I'm losing focus in the longer setups.

[Hennessy]

Anyone else occasionally slip up in LG when a question asks you for a complete and accurate list of possibilities for something? I get so confused sometimes whether it's asking for all possibilities of where something could go, or for the possibility of where it could go at the same time. If I get any questions wrong in LG, these are usually among them, BOOOO!

I feel like I didn't write this clear, but if anyone cares, I'm talking about a question such as PT43 S4 Q18.

Yes totally, also the "how many possible..." questions are either super easy or super confusing

[proteinshake]

Anyone else occasionally slip up in LG when a question asks you for a complete and accurate list of possibilities for something? I get so confused sometimes whether it's asking for all possibilities of where something could go, or for the possibility of where it could go at the same time. If I get any questions wrong in LG, these are usually among them, BOOOO!

I feel like I didn't write this clear, but if anyone cares, I'm talking about a question such as PT43 S4 Q18.

this is why it's important to mark what CANNOT go in certain positions when you're making your initial diagram. if you do this you should be able to narrow the choices down to two answer choices fairly quickly.

[Mikey]

Anyone else occasionally slip up in LG when a question asks you for a complete and accurate list of possibilities for something? I get so confused sometimes whether it's asking for all possibilities of where something could go, or for the possibility of where it could go at the same time. If I get any questions wrong in LG, these are usually among them, BOOOO!

I feel like I didn't write this clear, but if anyone cares, I'm talking about a question such as PT43 S4 Q18.

this is why it's important to mark what CANNOT go in certain positions when you're making your initial diagram. if you do this you should be able to narrow the choices down to two answer choices fairly quickly.

Yeah I get what you mean, I usually do that for grouping/tougher games but for easier games I usually just keep a mental image which usually works for me. I just hate how I always get confused with the wording of the question when being asked for possibilities because I can never really get whether they want a full list of where something could go in general, or where it could go in a given scenario, if that makes any sense, lol. That's mainly what my issue is, and it's usually the one's I get wrong, along with any minor mistakes I make, if any.

[proteinshake]

Anyone else occasionally slip up in LG when a question asks you for a complete and accurate list of possibilities for something? I get so confused sometimes whether it's asking for all possibilities of where something could go, or for the possibility of where it could go at the same time. If I get any questions wrong in LG, these are usually among them, BOOOO!

I feel like I didn't write this clear, but if anyone cares, I'm talking about a question such as PT43 S4 Q18.

this is why it's important to mark what CANNOT go in certain positions when you're making your initial diagram. if you do this you should be able to narrow the choices down to two answer choices fairly quickly.

Yeah I get what you mean, I usually do that for grouping/tougher games but for easier games I usually just keep a mental image which usually works for me. I just hate how I always get confused with the wording of the question when being asked for possibilities because I can never really get whether they want a full list of where something could go in general, or where it could go in a given scenario, if that makes any sense, lol. That's mainly what my issue is, and it's usually the one's I get wrong, along with any minor mistakes I make, if any.

ahh I see what you mean. I haven't studied LG since November, but wouldn't the answer choices reveal what the question is asking?

[Mikey]

Anyone else occasionally slip up in LG when a question asks you for a complete and accurate list of possibilities for something? I get so confused sometimes whether it's asking for all possibilities of where something could go, or for the possibility of where it could go at the same time. If I get any questions wrong in LG, these are usually among them, BOOOO!

I feel like I didn't write this clear, but if anyone cares, I'm talking about a question such as PT43 S4 Q18.

this is why it's important to mark what CANNOT go in certain positions when you're making your initial diagram. if you do this you should be able to narrow the choices down to two answer choices fairly quickly.

Yeah I get what you mean, I usually do that for grouping/tougher games but for easier games I usually just keep a mental image which usually works for me. I just hate how I always get confused with the wording of the question when being asked for possibilities because I can never really get whether they want a full list of where something could go in general, or where it could go in a given scenario, if that makes any sense, lol. That's mainly what my issue is, and it's usually the one's I get wrong, along with any minor mistakes I make, if any.

ahh I see what you mean. I haven't studied LG since November, but wouldn't the answer choices reveal what the question is asking?

Not always. Like for the question I mentioned before (PT43 S4 Q18), it was asking for a possibility in a given scenario in which there was an answer that gave a list of the possibility of only 1 scenario (there were 2 scenarios on which I split my game board up), but another answer choice was every possible group for that entity to be put in.

I put a "spoiler" just in case someone hasn't done this game and doesn't want to see what I have to say about one of the questions.

[+] Spoiler

There was 1 entity that HAD to go into the middle group (Y), but COULD go into any of the other 2 groups (X or Z), but not both at the same time so there would only be 2 of that entity on the game board. I thought the question was asking for all possibilities that the entity could go in which was all 3 XYZ (wrong answer choice), when it was really either XY or YZ, in which the correct answer was YZ (XY wasn't an option), not XYZ.

[YupSports]

Just found out I have to stay late at work, and will not be able to do a full PT.

Looks like it is going to be some more RC; I guess practice makes perfect?

[Mikey]

Just found out I have to stay late at work, and will not be able to do a full PT.

Looks like it is going to be some more RC; I guess practice makes perfect?

Aye, you gotta do what you gotta do

[ac8876a]

can confirm from pretests 60, LR gets substantially harder

[Hennessy]

Just found out I have to stay late at work, and will not be able to do a full PT.

Looks like it is going to be some more RC; I guess practice makes perfect?

Better to drill RC and retain than to try a whole PT and retain no material cuz you're too wiped out and get discouraged and get a 159.