The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:43 am

zacboro wrote:You HAVE to BR a section before you score it. If you score a LR section and see you went -0 your BR won't have as much meaning as it could otherwise. Or like if you score RC and you go -4, and while BRing you have 5 answers you wanna change then knowing you only went -4 is going to affect you. I know the urge to score right after is tremendous but you're only hurting yourself.

Yeah I thought of that but I couldn't resist haha. I'm doing PT B tomorrow and I'll try to do it right.

NL2424 · Post by **NL2424** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:24 pm

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:01 pm

Wow review is actually quite helpful. I noticed several cases where I missed important parts of the stimulus, or even read the stimulus wrong. And I'm sure I'll discover more when I look at the Superprep explanations.

For next week let's do PTs 40 and 41, if that's alright with everyone. That would be a logical progression for those of you doing Cambridge packets, since IIRC Cambridge packets end at 39.

prestont123 · Post by **prestont123** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:19 pm

JackelJ wrote:
pianoman4 wrote:Is everyone doing preptests under timed conditions yet? I'm doing them untimed and just recording how long I take. But I haven't been keeping myself to the 35 minutes per section.
IMO you should be doing PTs under strict timed conditions and untimed drilling

I wouldn't be doing PT timed yet, or even at all... What I am doing is going through all the books I can (Bibles, Manhattan, trainer) to build a solid foundation, and keep my motivation high. Taking PTs under timed conditions when you have not built the foundation you need can result in low scores and thus lower one's motivation. However if you are already scoring close to your desired goal I can see why you would be doing timed pts.

peppermint · Post by **peppermint** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:56 pm

Took PT B today and BR'd about half of it. Will BR the rest in a bit. I think the test went okay, but let's see what happens.

JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:01 pm

prestont123 wrote:
JackelJ wrote:
pianoman4 wrote:Is everyone doing preptests under timed conditions yet? I'm doing them untimed and just recording how long I take. But I haven't been keeping myself to the 35 minutes per section.
IMO you should be doing PTs under strict timed conditions and untimed drilling
I wouldn't be doing PT timed yet, or even at all... What I am doing is going through all the books I can (Bibles, Manhattan, trainer) to build a solid foundation, and keep my motivation high. Taking PTs under timed conditions when you have not built the foundation you need can result in low scores and thus lower one's motivation. However if you are already scoring close to your desired goal I can see why you would be doing timed pts.

Didn't say said person should be doing timed PTs now. I agree that taking PTs before you have a firm grasp on the fundamentals is a waste of PTs. I just think that when you do take a PT it should be timed. Then go through and do BR, which is untimed. Not timing yourself is for when you are drilling and learning the fundamentals and in my opinion drilling by question type is more conducive to learning than just taking untimed PTs.

Shakawkaw · Post by **Shakawkaw** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:53 pm

Jackel- love the new self-tar.

Re: logic behind using 39-51 for timed sections vs PTs:

It's a progression. Untimed drilling is to build up accuracy. Timed sections are useful in targeting accuracy while timed. PTs bring it all together - timing, accuracy and endurance. Since the test has changed post-50s era, it is more useful to take 52-74 as full PTs. I notice that some people take the tests in order and towards the end of their prep, they break up post 60s in sections to do them timed. I think that those tests are better served as full timed PTs. Another use for reserving 39-51 is as exp. sections in timed PTs.

JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:06 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:Jackel- love the new self-tar.

Thanks love. I'm going to take your advice and will be using PTs 39-50ish as experimental/timed sections. Now the question is do I make a study plan now or do I just start studying and trying to do as much as I can?

The Abyss · Post by **The Abyss** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:18 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:Re: logic behind using 39-51 for timed sections vs PTs:

It's a progression. Untimed drilling is to build up accuracy. Timed sections are useful in targeting accuracy while timed. PTs bring it all together - timing, accuracy and endurance. Since the test has changed post-50s era, it is more useful to take 52-74 as full PTs. I notice that some people take the tests in order and towards the end of their prep, they break up post 60s in sections to do them timed. I think that those tests are better served as full timed PTs. Another use for reserving 39-51 is as exp. sections in timed PTs.

Thanks for the response! That makes sense.

RZ5646 wrote:For next week let's do PTs 40 and 41, if that's alright with everyone. That would be a logical progression for those of you doing Cambridge packets, since IIRC Cambridge packets end at 39.

I'm going to step away from PTing for 2-3 weeks and just drill.

20170322 · Post by **20170322** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:26 pm

I don't know why, but I haven't been able to focus on school or the LSAT all weekend. Just can't get motivated.

TheWalkingDebt · Post by **TheWalkingDebt** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:40 pm

JackelJ wrote:
Shakawkaw wrote:Jackel- love the new self-tar.
Thanks love. I'm going to take your advice and will be using PTs 39-50ish as experimental/timed sections. Now the question is do I make a study plan now or do I just start studying and trying to do as much as I can?

That's you? You're gorgeous!

Also re: experimental sections, how do you all randomize whether it's RC/LG/LR?

ETA: Didn't intend for that compliment to be too much/inappropriate (a southern-raised Jew gets the great quality of being overly anxious about breach of manners/etiquette).

NonTradLawHopeful · Post by **NonTradLawHopeful** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:53 pm

SweetTort wrote:I don't know why, but I haven't been able to focus on school or the LSAT all weekend. Just can't get motivated.

Me neither, but I know it was because of binge watching House of Cards.

TheWalkingDebt · Post by **TheWalkingDebt** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:56 pm

NonTradLawHopeful wrote:
SweetTort wrote:I don't know why, but I haven't been able to focus on school or the LSAT all weekend. Just can't get motivated.
Me neither, but I know it was because of binge watching House of Cards.

No spoilers. I've been avoiding all forms of social media other than TLS. But answer this: is it amazing?

20170322 · Post by **20170322** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:58 pm

campaignraiser wrote:
NonTradLawHopeful wrote:
SweetTort wrote:I don't know why, but I haven't been able to focus on school or the LSAT all weekend. Just can't get motivated.
Me neither, but I know it was because of binge watching House of Cards.
No spoilers. I've been avoiding all forms of social media other than TLS. But answer this: is it amazing?

It is the lesser of the three seasons, but still good.

JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:05 pm

campaignraiser wrote:
JackelJ wrote:
Shakawkaw wrote:Jackel- love the new self-tar.
Thanks love. I'm going to take your advice and will be using PTs 39-50ish as experimental/timed sections. Now the question is do I make a study plan now or do I just start studying and trying to do as much as I can?
That's you? You're gorgeous!

Also re: experimental sections, how do you all randomize whether it's RC/LG/LR?

ETA: Didn't intend for that compliment to be too much/inappropriate (a southern-raised Jew gets the great quality of being overly anxious about breach of manners/etiquette).

lol its not actually me. Its Leighton Meester, and some TLSers that have seen me say I look like her. Maybe I do, but I'm definitely not as gorgeous.

For the experimental sections, I usually throw in a RC because its my worst section and could use the practice or I throw in a LR. I tend to not do LG because its usually more of a break for me

NonTradLawHopeful · Post by **NonTradLawHopeful** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:49 pm

campaignraiser wrote:
NonTradLawHopeful wrote:
SweetTort wrote:I don't know why, but I haven't been able to focus on school or the LSAT all weekend. Just can't get motivated.
Me neither, but I know it was because of binge watching House of Cards.
No spoilers. I've been avoiding all forms of social media other than TLS. But answer this: is it amazing?

It's slow and a little less suspenseful than the previous 2, but still a good show.

prestont123 · Post by **prestont123** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:01 pm

SweetTort wrote:I don't know why, but I haven't been able to focus on school or the LSAT all weekend. Just can't get motivated.

Same here, someone introduced me to House of Cards so and I can't stop watching. Try watching The Paper Chase and see if that helps

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:52 pm

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RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:57 pm

Anyone posting House of Cards spoilers in this thread will be reported to the mods and summarily crucified.

ugg · Post by **ugg** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:51 pm

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prestont123 · Post by **prestont123** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:51 pm

RZ5646 wrote:Anyone posting House of Cards spoilers in this thread will be reported to the mods and summarily crucified.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:56 pm

I'm on episode 10 11 already and I don't want it to end

ChoboPie · Post by **ChoboPie** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:06 am

RZ5646 wrote:Anyone posting House of Cards spoilers in this thread will be reported to the mods and summarily crucified.

He dies at the end.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:09 am

ChoboPie wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:Anyone posting House of Cards spoilers in this thread will be reported to the mods and summarily crucified.
He dies at the end.

Snape kills him.