The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS Forum

[PhiladelphiaCollins]

I've probably done the art grouping/linear game from PT 13upwards of 10 times over the past 2 years and I still manage to fuck it up UGH.

Also leaving the country for the next 10 days to visit family, so studying over the next week is going to be interesting....going to try to bring around 10 game/LR/RC sections to do in the mornings even if I can't grind for the next week or so.

[Hennessy]

wya

we're all waiting to hear your late score

retaking?

[pretzeltime]

wya

we're all waiting to hear your late score

retaking?

hey hon!!!!!! still no score and no indication as to when I'll get it. imagine if they can't even get it to me before the holiday weekend. christ, I am starting to lose it. I'd thought they would get it to me shortly after grey, but nah.

I'll prob be taking again in Sept regardless, so I might as well check in here!! hi everyone!! although tbf there are minimal LSAT-related topics I have left in me to discuss. I prefer our lovely shitposting but I guess I shouldn't tank a productive LSAT study thread, just yet.

that's interesting that you're retaking! I mean I guess in the past I'd wondered why you would stop at your (fantastic baller baller) target score when you are capable of doing (even) better. (if I'm coming off as insulting I hope not.....I'm just syaing you seem like an exceedingly smart dude basically). so that's cool to retake I guess. why not try for more scholly $$$ especially if you're not going to do a completely torturous restudy regimen. can't hurt.

in all honesty it's so fucking great you hit your PT range score. I feel like that is relatively rare especially for first time takers.

[Alexandros]

6:30 am just-woke-up-with-no-coffee drilling this morning -
LG from PT 34: -4, 33 min. Took 11 min on a fairly simple linear ordering game, lost two very easy points on the easiest game due to misreading at the question level, and got a possible order question wrong. Definitely a useful exercise that I'll be doing daily. I need to be able to perform quickly and accurately in the morning in a less than ideal mental state.
(But on a bright, I did manage to do 34.4 in ~5 min with only a -1 due to misreading. Not a hard game but for some reason was the only game I couldn't make target time or accuracy on last month when I was going through 29-38. I think my last attempt was something like 11min -2.)

RC passages - Did ok on the post-coffee one. Not so great on the pre-coffee one, but not a disaster. Hopefully with consistent practice reading fast at that hour I should make some improvements.

[Alexandros]

Starting to make some serious improvements with my RC. My only concern is that, once I blow through the drilling material, there will be very little to practice with. I redo logic games constantly, but it seems less helpful to redo RC.

What PT range are you drilling from?

1-38, and then using the rest as full PT's. TBH, I may run out of all prep material by August, but I'm fine with redoing PTs.

Redoing RC passages even 4x helped me out a lot. That's how you really start to see the structure of a passage.

I'm glad you're finding that. I've been really hesitant to repeat RC passages, but I finally did one that I hadn't done in about a month and found I didn't remember it too well.

[34iplaw]

I feel like teaching the LSAT probably makes you a trivia god.

[Mikey]

I'll prob be taking again in Sept regardless, so I might as well check in here!! hi everyone!! although tbf there are minimal LSAT-related topics I have left in me to discuss. I prefer our lovely shitposting but I guess I shouldn't tank a productive LSAT study thread, just yet.

Aww shit everyone, pretzel has checked in! I do hope you get a score that you're happy with regardless of retaking or not.

Also, the bolded

[Mikey]

I feel like teaching the LSAT probably makes you a trivia god.

Tbh, this may sound like I'm a weirdo but in school, during my studying for an exam, I pretend like I'm explaining it to someone else. So essentially I do look like a weirdo for talking to myself, but I really do think that this helps me retain a lot more information and better understand it. I haven't done anything like this for the LSAT but I guess it can't hurt to try?

[Giro423]

checking in, friends

short bio:
i was PTing at an average of 169 and SOMEHOW managed a 161 on the june test... i'm still devastated about it and think i need to give myself another week or two before i start studying again, but i already registered for the september test, so here we go!!

any advice on where to begin for retakers? i was not planning on retaking, and thus, i don't think i have ANY fresh tests (i was dumb and wrote all over them - i think i may need to just buy tests again which is also a huge bummer after just paying $180 to take the test again)

also - i did my best ever in RC in june and absolutely bombed games. i knew it was happening during the test, but i didn't think it would be as bad as it was (-9). games are usually my best section, and i've never gotten more than 3 wrong per section. i also way underperformed in LR.

Same thing happened to me, was PTing in high 160's and hit 160 on the real thing. Games and LR killed me, and LR is usually my strongest (I went -9 and -14, respectively). Deezastair

Anything you would have done differently in your prep? I'm worried about a big test day drop.

I would have done more recent PT's. I only got up to 70, so some of the new quirks on LR through me off a little bit. I also would not have drank caffeine before heading in. I was jittery. Whatever you can do to get to a place of calm focus is the key, I meditated and warmed up before which was helpful of course. It was just the little details in most of the questions I got wrong that threw me off, I probably wouldn't have missed them if I wasn't as anxious in the beginning part of the test.

[Hennessy]

wya

we're all waiting to hear your late score

retaking?

hey hon!!!!!! still no score and no indication as to when I'll get it. imagine if they can't even get it to me before the holiday weekend. christ, I am starting to lose it. I'd thought they would get it to me shortly after grey, but nah.

I'll prob be taking again in Sept regardless, so I might as well check in here!! hi everyone!! although tbf there are minimal LSAT-related topics I have left in me to discuss. I prefer our lovely shitposting but I guess I shouldn't tank a productive LSAT study thread, just yet.

that's interesting that you're retaking! I mean I guess in the past I'd wondered why you would stop at your (fantastic baller baller) target score when you are capable of doing (even) better. (if I'm coming off as insulting I hope not.....I'm just syaing you seem like an exceedingly smart dude basically). so that's cool to retake I guess. why not try for more scholly $$$ especially if you're not going to do a completely torturous restudy regimen. can't hurt.

in all honesty it's so fucking great you hit your PT range score. I feel like that is relatively rare especially for first time takers.

Thank you for all the kind words.

Also yeah, we don't really need to post much - i can't think of any study methods I really need to resolve, and they're gonna hit 180 before Sept. no problem.

[20170322]

Not feeling the motivation today. Got 4 hours in this morning, and that may be it for the day. Just got some new basketball kicks, tho, so I may go play and blow off some steam.

[34iplaw]

Not feeling the motivation today. Got 4 hours in this morning, and that may be it for the day. Just got some new basketball kicks, tho, so I may go play and blow off some steam.

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Going to submit my RC questions to Testmasters and dive into some game-age.

Testmasters just added the June test as a supplemental diagnostic. Kind of interested to try it out, but I think I'll wait a few weeks haha.

[Doubting Law]

Rough day today with LR.

PT44- October 2004, Section 2

Cold Score (Pre-blind review): -10
Blind Review Score: -5

At least I caught some of my mistakes in the BR section. It's just discouraging to go from -4, and -6 in LR yesterday to a -10 today.

[Burt Macklin]

Just started 7sage's curriculum.. Although I know most of my shit, I still feel like it will benefit me. Fuck the LSAT, it made me feel like shit when I got my score yesterday but I've decided to put that behind me and make this test my bitch. Let's fucking roll.

You bought the ultimate package? Do you end up drilling w/ Cambridge packets or do you feel like the study questions provided by 7sage sufficient?

[Mikey]

Just started 7sage's curriculum.. Although I know most of my shit, I still feel like it will benefit me. Fuck the LSAT, it made me feel like shit when I got my score yesterday but I've decided to put that behind me and make this test my bitch. Let's fucking roll.

You bought the ultimate package? Do you end up drilling w/ Cambridge packets or do you feel like the study questions provided by 7sage sufficient?

I don't do the specific questions they tell you to do, I am drilling from a Cambridge packet. I do look at the available video explanations for the ones I do though.

[Burt Macklin]

Just started 7sage's curriculum.. Although I know most of my shit, I still feel like it will benefit me. Fuck the LSAT, it made me feel like shit when I got my score yesterday but I've decided to put that behind me and make this test my bitch. Let's fucking roll.

You bought the ultimate package? Do you end up drilling w/ Cambridge packets or do you feel like the study questions provided by 7sage sufficient?

I don't do the specific questions they tell you to do, I am drilling from a Cambridge packet. I do look at the available video explanations for the ones I do though.

Makes sense. Coming from the LSAT Trainer I've found the detailed explanations of questions extremely helpful for reinforcing the thought processes for each question type. One thing I've struggled with is the lack of tangible products/outputs, ie completed quizzes or drill it sections, has got me feeling like Im not actually completing anything. Maybe this will change later on in the course, idk.

[cgra1916]

Not feeling the motivation today. Got 4 hours in this morning, and that may be it for the day. Just got some new basketball kicks, tho, so I may go play and blow off some steam.

I feel you man. I've been drilling RC, yesterday I drilled one passage and went 6/8, today I drill a passage with the same level of difficulty... and absolutely bomb it :/

[Barack O'Drama]

Not feeling the motivation today. Got 4 hours in this morning, and that may be it for the day. Just got some new basketball kicks, tho, so I may go play and blow off some steam.

I feel you man. I've been drilling RC, yesterday I drilled one passage and went 6/8, today I drill a passage with the same level of difficulty... and absolutely bomb it :/

Today hasn't been much my day either. I think I am kind of in a funk and need to get some motivation back. Every time I sit and study for more than 2-3 hours I start getting headaches. I take intermittent breaks, but nothing is helping. It makes reading comp next to impossible when I have a bad headache.

[proteinshake]

I think an important point for LR is to not eliminate answer choices during your elimination unless you know exactly why you are eliminating it. it's really easy to eliminate correct answer choices because you don't know how it could be correct!

[Dodocogon]

I think an important point for LR is to not eliminate answer choices during your elimination unless you know exactly why you are eliminating it. it's really easy to eliminate correct answer choices because you don't know how it could be correct!

Yup, there's always that chance! Every once and awhile I would eliminate all 5 choices (lol) and feel like a dumbass; be 100% in what you take out!

[Mikey]

Ok, so I just wanted to ask you all on your thoughts about this before I try it on sections and PTs. So I usually check every answer choice in LR, and eliminate every A/C that's wrong, or that I assume is wrong, that is. For timing sakes, do you guys think it would be a good or bad idea (JUST FOR 1 LR SECTION OF DRILLING), to try out picking the A/C that I think is right based on my pre-phrase for the first 10ish questions and not looking at the other A/C's? Obviously the whole 10 in 10 thing has been debatable for many since they can obviously throw in a hard question at the beginning, but I really want to try something different with LR for timing. If it seems like a shitty idea just tell me straight up, haha.

[proteinshake]

Ok, so I just wanted to ask you all on your thoughts about this before I try it on sections and PTs. So I usually check every answer choice in LR, and eliminate every A/C that's wrong, or that I assume is wrong, that is. For timing sakes, do you guys think it would be a good or bad idea (JUST FOR 1 LR SECTION OF DRILLING), to try out picking the A/C that I think is right based on my pre-phrase for the first 10ish questions and not looking at the other A/C's? Obviously the whole 10 in 10 thing has been debatable for many since they can obviously throw in a hard question at the beginning, but I really want to try something different with LR for timing. If it seems like a shitty idea just tell me straight up, haha.

not a bad idea but it depends on your LR skills. do you always (or close to always) get 100% of the first 10 questions correct and feel like you waste time by checking all the answer choices? I don't read all the answer choices for a lot of 'first 10' questions (sometimes but not always) and I think it's fine. it saves me a bunch of time for the harder questions!

[Mikey]

Ok, so I just wanted to ask you all on your thoughts about this before I try it on sections and PTs. So I usually check every answer choice in LR, and eliminate every A/C that's wrong, or that I assume is wrong, that is. For timing sakes, do you guys think it would be a good or bad idea (JUST FOR 1 LR SECTION OF DRILLING), to try out picking the A/C that I think is right based on my pre-phrase for the first 10ish questions and not looking at the other A/C's? Obviously the whole 10 in 10 thing has been debatable for many since they can obviously throw in a hard question at the beginning, but I really want to try something different with LR for timing. If it seems like a shitty idea just tell me straight up, haha.

not a bad idea but it depends on your LR skills. do you always (or close to always) get 100% of the first 10 questions correct and feel like you waste time by checking all the answer choices? I don't read all the answer choices for a lot of 'first 10' questions (sometimes but not always) and I think it's fine. it saves me a bunch of time for the harder questions!

I usually get at least 1 wrong in the first 10, it's not a specific question type, it's usually any type. Never more than 2 wrong in the first 10 though. Excluding the June take

[StopLawying]

Checking in here after getting a disappointing 162 in June. Was really sick on test day, and had a really difficult time getting through the entire test. Goal is a 168+ by September. I have a really good GPA, so this test is really the only thing holding me back. Really depressed that I couldn't get this all done in June. I'll be taking the rest of the weekend off and get back to studying on Monday.

One important piece of advice I have for first time takers is to not overdo it. Burnout is real. I was putting in a lot of hours leading up to test day, and a 2 weeks before the test my scores were plummeting. I had a tough time absorbing text and lost confidence, which is extremely important for this test. Some of my friends who already had taken the test told me that burnout is real, but I ignored them, thinking that it wouldn't affect me. Putting in 5-6 hours a day a couple times a week is fine, but if you're doing this every day you risk not being at your best come test day. This time I'll have long study days (4-5 hours) followed by short ones (2 hours) to help prevent burnout. I'll also be taking one day off each week as someone on 7sage recommended.

Lastly, try and take advantage of the free proctored exams that several companies offer in big cities like NY, LA, etc. As someone who took several of these, I can say that it comes very close to simulating what test-day is going to be like. Even just taking one or two helps tremendously and puts you at a big advantage over other students. Looking forward to hangin out with you guys over the next several months!!

[StopLawying]

Also, it's gonna be really hard switching from taking tests at 12:30 to taking them at 8:30 in the morning. That's a huge advantage of taking in June and I kinda wish every test would be given at that time. For those who aren't morning people, what are you doing to make sure you're at 100% by 8:30?