The Official February 2016 Waiter's Thread Forum

[MiamiHeat3]

You guys...

I'm sitting here eating my cereal and in the midst of my cereal thoughts, I realized...

March is the month that will decide the rest of my life! ugh.

1. Score comes out
2. Decisions come out
3. Scholarships come out


I'm literally sitting here waiting for the rest of my life to happen.

I feel the same. Things are kind of on pause for my life right now. Lots of huge things happening in the span of a couple weeks...not to mention I turn 24 *cries*...I'm actually most nervous about negotiating scholarships though. Every time I've read about it or discussed it with someone, everyone's always so general...I'm like...SPECIFICALLY how do I do this? I feel like I'm gonna screw it up and not get any more money

24? Cries?

I'm about to be 26 LOL You've got tihs!! Our life is about to go from 0-60 in a few months and there'll be no time to worry about anything!!

Yeah I'm bothered by my age because 23 was such a horrible year for me. Honestly, I feel like I wasted an entire year of my life so it makes me sad that I'm yet another year older with hardly anything to show for it

I'm only 21. y'all are old AF JK.

[dontsaywhatyoumean]

When is the latest that US applicants at T-14's hear about admission?

In Canada it is very common for students to be accepted late into the summer (even days before the start of classes). Obviously the majority get in before that.

This generally though is for applicants with lower stats.

[wellitsover]

You guys...

I'm sitting here eating my cereal and in the midst of my cereal thoughts, I realized...

March is the month that will decide the rest of my life! ugh.

1. Score comes out
2. Decisions come out
3. Scholarships come out


I'm literally sitting here waiting for the rest of my life to happen.

I feel the same. Things are kind of on pause for my life right now. Lots of huge things happening in the span of a couple weeks...not to mention I turn 24 *cries*...I'm actually most nervous about negotiating scholarships though. Every time I've read about it or discussed it with someone, everyone's always so general...I'm like...SPECIFICALLY how do I do this? I feel like I'm gonna screw it up and not get any more money

It seems like there are a lot of helpful materials on TLS and via google too. If anything I imagine the process will naturally follow after you take the first step in reaching out because the admin offices are so used to negotiations that they'll be able to address the next step.

What I'm most concerned about is being wait listed for a long time. The uncertainty just sounds too frustrating to deal with, especially when it comes to making moving plans and such. Of course many have said it's worth it for the better career prospects, and I will probably ride out a few if I must, but I really, really, really hope I don't have to past April...!

[AbbeyS]

Yeah I'm bothered by my age because 23 was such a horrible year for me. Honestly, I feel like I wasted an entire year of my life so it makes me sad that I'm yet another year older with hardly anything to show for it

I feel that exact way, and what makes it worse is, I have a successful job and everything. But to me, that job means NOTHING. And whenever I say, I have nothing to show for life, nothing meaningful. People always try to play the "but look all you've accomplished, your job, your career."

And I'm just like... what career? A job where I sit 9-5, go home, watch TV, go back to work. Hear my boss bitch, take a paycheck, yada yada. That's not an accomplishment so I know what you mean.

I've been pushing this law school thing for a couple of years now, and I'm just waiting for the rest of my life to happen so I can finally be proud of something!! We've got this! Don't feel sad about it! We're all still very young!! Even if we live to 90, we're not even halfway into our life, so I think we're good!

That's all true. Glad I'm not the only one. But even still, my career situation is in shambles lol. I didn't take the traditional route out of college because I didn't want to work in my field...so I don't even have the good job to fall back on. I'm really just getting through the days until law school starts, because I feel like that's when my life will actually begin. Being a 20-something is weird, man. Everybody expects you to have your shat together so you feel bad about yourself if you don't.

[wellitsover]

When is the latest that US applicants at T-14's hear about admission?

In Canada it is very common for students to be accepted late into the summer (even days before the start of classes). Obviously the majority get in before that.

This generally though is for applicants with lower stats.

What, really? Do you mean getting accepted after wait listed? Because that sounds really late.

I think most hear back for the initial acceptance in time to make the deposit... which is late April or May, I think?

[AbbeyS]

When is the latest that US applicants at T-14's hear about admission?

In Canada it is very common for students to be accepted late into the summer (even days before the start of classes). Obviously the majority get in before that.

This generally though is for applicants with lower stats.

What, really? Do you mean getting accepted after wait listed? Because that sounds really late.

I think most hear back for the initial acceptance in time to make the deposit... which is late April or May, I think?

You can get accepted off the waitlist all the way until the semester starts...some schools pay portions/all of your deposit that you paid to another school if you get accepted late if they're interested in you. I wouldn't want that though...I'd rather know earlier than later cause I'm a planner. I need to know now so I can plan accordingly. I get anxious with uncertainty.

[lizzielemon]

That's all true. Glad I'm not the only one. But even still, my career situation is in shambles lol. I didn't take the traditional route out of college because I didn't want to work in my field...so I don't even have the good job to fall back on. I'm really just getting through the days until law school starts, because I feel like that's when my life will actually begin. Being a 20-something is weird, man. Everybody expects you to have your shat together so you feel bad about yourself if you don't.

If I don't start law school this fall, I'm quitting my job and living in a forest. I cannot do this mindless, meaningful work that I have no interest in, even if it brings an income.

I'm about to enter "late 20s" that shit's scary man. I need this LSAT to be good ugh.

[dontsaywhatyoumean]

Holy, just checking around US tuition stats. U Chicago is almost 60k US a year?

In Canadian dollars that's 80k... Our "top" (in terms of admission standards) school is 29k Canadian. It's also way easier to get into law school in Canada compared to many of the top 14 (maybe not the "lowest" ranked top 14's though. We also place greater emphasis on GPA).

Schools I'm looking at are around 10k Canadian, or 6k US.


School choice doesn't matter nearly as much in Canada (could argue it doesn't, or hardly does in many cases), especially if you are applying for positions within the province (or nearby) of your law school.

Obviously we don't have the same salary potential though.

[lizzielemon]

I'm only 21. y'all are old AF JK.

[wellitsover]

I'm only 21. y'all are old AF JK.

[AbbeyS]

Holy, just checking around US tuition stats. U Chicago is almost 60k US a year?

In Canadian dollars that's 80k... Our "top" (in terms of admission standards) school is 29k Canadian. It's also way easier to get into law school in Canada compared to many of the top 14 (maybe not the "lowest" ranked top 14's though. We also place greater emphasis on GPA).

Schools I'm looking at are around 10k Canadian, or 6k US.


School choice doesn't matter nearly as much in Canada (could argue it doesn't, or hardly does in many cases), especially if you are applying for positions within the province (or nearby) of your law school.

Obviously we don't have the same salary potential though.

This is all because Canada has so much more figured out than the U.S. We're too busy pretending to know it all when really there's better alternatives, but you didn't hear that from me

[dontsaywhatyoumean]

When is the latest that US applicants at T-14's hear about admission?

In Canada it is very common for students to be accepted late into the summer (even days before the start of classes). Obviously the majority get in before that.

This generally though is for applicants with lower stats.

What, really? Do you mean getting accepted after wait listed? Because that sounds really late.

I think most hear back for the initial acceptance in time to make the deposit... which is late April or May, I think?

It depends for the schools though when they start their waitlist and how many turn down offers.

Some start in July, so a number (a lot?) of applicants are accepted after May without being waitlisted.

[TexasENG]

When is the latest that US applicants at T-14's hear about admission?

In Canada it is very common for students to be accepted late into the summer (even days before the start of classes). Obviously the majority get in before that.

This generally though is for applicants with lower stats.

What, really? Do you mean getting accepted after wait listed? Because that sounds really late.

I think most hear back for the initial acceptance in time to make the deposit... which is late April or May, I think?

It depends for the schools though when they start their waitlist and how many turn down offers.

Some start in July, so a number (a lot?) of applicants are accepted after May without being waitlisted.

So how hard is it for me to get into a Canadian Law School as a US citizen

[dontsaywhatyoumean]

I don't know if they have a preference for Canadians or not.

But Georgetown for example (ranked 14 in US according to one recent ranking) is 167 and 3.76.

Our top school is 3.8ish and 166, and looks only at your last 3 years.

A handful of schools you can easily get accepted to with a 3.6 and a 159. You can definitely get in with a lower score (although not much lower in terms of the LSAT unless you have a very good GPA).

The motto in Canada is a cGPA of 3.7 and an LSAT score of 160+ for a guarantee at most schools (minus our top 2 maybe). In reality, a number of schools will assuredly let you in with lower numbers. 158 seems to be the safe minimum for a number of schools.

A big thing is that so many schools drop your worst years, first year, or worst credits, and look only at your top LSAT score.

Have a 3.4 cGPA, and a 3.7 in your last 2 years, with a 160 LSAT, welcome to 2 of our "top" 5 schools, guaranteed.

Our law market is also not as saturated (though granted, once again, salaries do not peak to the same extent).


Anyway, I just bring this up because I was slightly puzzled by the emphasis many of you place on scholarships. I didn't know the average tuition for a top 14 was so high.

[dhwz175]

I don't know if they have a preference for Canadians or not.

But Georgetown for example (ranked 14 in US according to one recent ranking) is 167 and 3.76.

Our top school is 3.8ish and 166, and looks only at your last 3 years.

A handful of schools you can easily get accepted to with a 3.6 and a 159. You can definitely get in with a lower score (although not much lower in terms of the LSAT unless you have a very good GPA).

The motto in Canada is a cGPA of 3.7 and an LSAT score of 160+ for a guarantee at most schools (minus our top 2 maybe). In reality, a number of schools will assuredly let you in with lower numbers. 158 seems to be the safe minimum for a number of schools.

A big thing is that so many schools drop your worst years, first year, or worst credits, and look only at your top LSAT score.

Have a 3.4 cGPA, and a 3.7 in your last 2 years, with a 160 LSAT, welcome to 2 of our "top" 5 schools, guaranteed.

Our law market is also not as saturated (though granted, once again, salaries do not peak to the same extent).


Anyway, I just bring this up because I was slightly puzzled by the emphasis many of you place on scholarships. I didn't know the average tuition for a top 14 was so high.

Preeaach fellow Canadian

Edit: although it is true that our salaries aren't nearly as high as in the states. And we have to do a year of articling first

[TexasENG]

I don't know if they have a preference for Canadians or not.

But Georgetown for example (ranked 14 in US according to one recent ranking) is 167 and 3.76.

Our top school is 3.8ish and 166, and looks only at your last 3 years.

A handful of schools you can easily get accepted to with a 3.6 and a 159. You can definitely get in with a lower score (although not much lower in terms of the LSAT unless you have a very good GPA).

The motto in Canada is a cGPA of 3.7 and an LSAT score of 160+ for a guarantee at most schools (minus our top 2 maybe). In reality, a number of schools will assuredly let you in with lower numbers. 158 seems to be the safe minimum for a number of schools.

A big thing is that so many schools drop your worst years, first year, or worst credits, and look only at your top LSAT score.

Have a 3.4 cGPA, and a 3.7 in your last 2 years, with a 160 LSAT, welcome to 2 of our "top" 5 schools, guaranteed.

Our law market is also not as saturated (though granted, once again, salaries do not peak to the same extent).


Anyway, I just bring this up because I was slightly puzzled by the emphasis many of you place on scholarships. I didn't know the average tuition for a top 14 was so high.

Our higher education system is a little wack. While T14 is super expensive, a school with terrible outcomes is not significantly lower cost. For example Pace Law (got an email from them and their name stuck in my head) is ranked 138. Their tuition is 45k per year.

[803(6)RegBusiness]

Any chance in hell we get the scores back today?

[TexasENG]

Any chance in hell we get the scores back today?

Its never been this early for February, but who knows

[RonnyDiniro]

Any chance in hell we get the scores back today?

Very doubtful

[mm89]

You guys...

I'm sitting here eating my cereal and in the midst of my cereal thoughts, I realized...

March is the month that will decide the rest of my life! ugh.

1. Score comes out
2. Decisions come out
3. Scholarships come out


I'm literally sitting here waiting for the rest of my life to happen.

I feel the same. Things are kind of on pause for my life right now. Lots of huge things happening in the span of a couple weeks...not to mention I turn 24 *cries*...I'm actually most nervous about negotiating scholarships though. Every time I've read about it or discussed it with someone, everyone's always so general...I'm like...SPECIFICALLY how do I do this? I feel like I'm gonna screw it up and not get any more money

24? Cries?

I'm about to be 26 LOL You've got tihs!! Our life is about to go from 0-60 in a few months and there'll be no time to worry about anything!!

Yeah I'm bothered by my age because 23 was such a horrible year for me. Honestly, I feel like I wasted an entire year of my life so it makes me sad that I'm yet another year older with hardly anything to show for it

I swear no one understands when I try to explain this to them. People are over here cheering about graduating hs or college and petty things like that and I'm like nope! Every year I get older is another reminder I haven't accomplished anything in my life. I've basically told everyone they can congratulate me when I get into LS, because that will mean something. Glad to see we're all on the same page!

[RonnyDiniro]

You guys...

I'm sitting here eating my cereal and in the midst of my cereal thoughts, I realized...

March is the month that will decide the rest of my life! ugh.

1. Score comes out
2. Decisions come out
3. Scholarships come out


I'm literally sitting here waiting for the rest of my life to happen.

I feel the same. Things are kind of on pause for my life right now. Lots of huge things happening in the span of a couple weeks...not to mention I turn 24 *cries*...I'm actually most nervous about negotiating scholarships though. Every time I've read about it or discussed it with someone, everyone's always so general...I'm like...SPECIFICALLY how do I do this? I feel like I'm gonna screw it up and not get any more money

24? Cries?

I'm about to be 26 LOL You've got tihs!! Our life is about to go from 0-60 in a few months and there'll be no time to worry about anything!!

Yeah I'm bothered by my age because 23 was such a horrible year for me. Honestly, I feel like I wasted an entire year of my life so it makes me sad that I'm yet another year older with hardly anything to show for it

I swear no one understands when I try to explain this to them. People are over here cheering about graduating hs or college and petty things like that and I'm like nope! Every year I get older is another reminder I haven't accomplished anything in my life. I've basically told everyone they can congratulate me when I get into LS, because that will mean something. Glad to see we're all on the same page!

PLUS ONE

[dontsaywhatyoumean]

Preeaach fellow Canadian

Edit: although it is true that our salaries aren't nearly as high as in the states. And we have to do a year of articling first

True, I forgot about that.

Our higher education system is a little wack. While T14 is super expensive, a school with terrible outcomes is not significantly lower cost. For example Pace Law (got an email from them and their name stuck in my head) is ranked 138. Their tuition is 45k per year.

Are you actually an engineer? What kind? That's obviously a career that many would like.

Man, I feel bad for students who unwittingly accept offers from schools like that (I've read so many horror articles). Oh, and wow, you guys have 200 law schools lol (although obviously a much larger pop in USA)! I wonder what the average seat size is. I'd guess probably also larger than what it is in Canada . Canada the largest size is probably low 200, and the smallest probably 70ish.

[lizzielemon]

OMGGGGG GIMME MY SCORE!!!! I CAN'T WAIT ANYMORE!!!!





EDIT: on an unintentional note, that rhymed. Anyone wanna make it into a song?

[LuckDaw]

Each day after today I'm adding 1 point to my score. I won't wait any longer without compensation. Who is with me?

[dontsaywhatyoumean]

Each day after today I'm adding 1 point to my score. I won't wait any longer without compensation. Who is with me?

IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT!

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