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by Barack O'Drama » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:39 pm
34iplaw wrote:Barack O'Drama wrote:I feel really guilty... I haven't been doing much LSAT stuff today. I maybe studied for ~2 hours this morning. Now I've just been busy running errands, doing laundry, cleaning, getting a hair cut, and 10 other things I've been putting off.
Guess I'll just hit it hard tomorrow. Maybe even do some stuff later. On a bright note, I did print out a bunch of PTs and packets I've been meaning to print. And now I have plenty of paper and ink for my printer so I'll be able to print out lots of games to re-do.

Well, you freed up more time to prep tomorrow, so it can be looked at as studying in a way! Just need to make sure you use the freed up time to study diligently!
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For anyone familiar with the passage December 2004 Passage 2, here's my main issue. How subtle can they be about tone? There are three wrong answer choices that are all linked together [in my mind] and are all related to tone...#11 - C, #13 - B, and #14 - B which are given credence by line #34 where the issues may be dismissed as irrelevant. I'm not sure why, but this read quite academically sassy to me. I guess there just isn't any other examples of 'bemused dismissal' and that the author gives most criticisms the light of day. I guess it was a confidence issue on my part possibly.
Also, does anyone know of a resource that gives good explanation on passages? All Testmasters does is this like 'word....word' line ###. I don't really find their explanations on these helpful except for find the explicit mentions of things in the passage.
Thanks iplaw! You're right I just feel like this test is taking over my life. But, in a way, I did free up more time to study diligently tomorrow
That is a weird passage, I just glanced at it really quick... Ugh Not looking forward to RC lol
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by Mikey » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:49 pm
Just started 7sage's curriculum.. Although I know most of my shit, I still feel like it will benefit me. Fuck the LSAT, it made me feel like shit when I got my score yesterday but I've decided to put that behind me and make this test my bitch. Let's fucking roll.
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by Barack O'Drama » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:53 pm
TheMikey wrote:Just started 7sage's curriculum.. Although I know most of my shit, I still feel like it will benefit me. Fuck the LSAT, it made me feel like shit when I got my score yesterday but I've decided to put that behind me and make this test my bitch. Let's fucking roll.
Thats the attitude! Seriously, fuck the LSAT! September is going to be nothing but 170+

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Mikey

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by Mikey » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:00 pm
Barack O'Drama wrote:TheMikey wrote:Just started 7sage's curriculum.. Although I know most of my shit, I still feel like it will benefit me. Fuck the LSAT, it made me feel like shit when I got my score yesterday but I've decided to put that behind me and make this test my bitch. Let's fucking roll.
Thats the attitude! Seriously, fuck the LSAT! September is going to be nothing but 170+

Hell yeah! I'm just glad that I'm thinking somewhat positive about this. I mean, obviously I'm still bummed out about not doing well, but at least I'm thinking positive in regards to retaking!
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by Alexandros » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:00 pm
I just did some photocopying, accidentally put "576" for one two-sided combination, could not get the goddam machine to stop until it had printed out like at least fifty copies. I take the fifty copies, compose myself, and go to photocopy the next two games with the amount at "4," press Go - apparently I had only put the machine on pause or something, because the minute I press Go it starts printing out the same frigging game combination as before. I got it to stop after about twenty this time.
Hey, at least I'll know Games 23.1 and 23.2 really, really darn well.
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by 34iplaw » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:02 pm
Alexandros wrote:
I just did some photocopying, accidentally put "576" for one two-sided combination, could not get the goddam machine to stop until it had printed out like at least fifty copies. I take the fifty copies, compose myself, and go to photocopy the next two games with the amount at "4," press Go - apparently I had only put the machine on pause or something, because the minute I press Go it starts printing out the same frigging game combination as before. I got it to stop after about twenty this time.
Hey, at least I'll know Games 23.1 and 23.2 really, really darn well.
I just do my games on looseleaf. I know it's not perfect, but I think it's acceptable while I drill games. I don't really get that tripped up when I do them on actual question sheets, and I find that I actually perform a good portion quicker on the answer sheets.
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by Mikey » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:04 pm
34iplaw wrote:Alexandros wrote:
I just did some photocopying, accidentally put "576" for one two-sided combination, could not get the goddam machine to stop until it had printed out like at least fifty copies. I take the fifty copies, compose myself, and go to photocopy the next two games with the amount at "4," press Go - apparently I had only put the machine on pause or something, because the minute I press Go it starts printing out the same frigging game combination as before. I got it to stop after about twenty this time.
Hey, at least I'll know Games 23.1 and 23.2 really, really darn well.
I just do my games on looseleaf. I know it's not perfect, but I think it's acceptable while I drill games. I don't really get that tripped up when I do them on actual question sheets, and I find that I actually perform a good portion quicker on the answer sheets.
I'm the same, I just get loose leaf paper when drilling. Only time I ever did games on their actual page was during PTs.
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by 20170322 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:14 pm
TheMikey wrote:34iplaw wrote:Alexandros wrote:
I just did some photocopying, accidentally put "576" for one two-sided combination, could not get the goddam machine to stop until it had printed out like at least fifty copies. I take the fifty copies, compose myself, and go to photocopy the next two games with the amount at "4," press Go - apparently I had only put the machine on pause or something, because the minute I press Go it starts printing out the same frigging game combination as before. I got it to stop after about twenty this time.
Hey, at least I'll know Games 23.1 and 23.2 really, really darn well.
I just do my games on looseleaf. I know it's not perfect, but I think it's acceptable while I drill games. I don't really get that tripped up when I do them on actual question sheets, and I find that I actually perform a good portion quicker on the answer sheets.
I'm the same, I just get loose leaf paper when drilling. Only time I ever did games on their actual page was during PTs.
I printed 10 copies of every LG. I now owe my soul to the printing place.
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by thatlawlkid » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:24 pm
anyone here read the question stems for LR first? Never tried it, wondering if anyone has an opinion
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by meeseeks » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:27 pm
thatlawlkid wrote:anyone here read the question stems for LR first? Never tried it, wondering if anyone has an opinion
That's what I do. I feel like it helps me know what to look for in the prompt.
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by thatlawlkid » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:34 pm
Mr. Meeseeks wrote:thatlawlkid wrote:anyone here read the question stems for LR first? Never tried it, wondering if anyone has an opinion
That's what I do. I feel like it helps me know what to look for in the prompt.
how do you score in LR, I normally go -3 per section and i'm wondering if this might be the switch that'll help me catch the slip ups, but I'm worried trying to change things for a 4th take end up messing me up
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by Barack O'Drama » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:35 pm
thatlawlkid wrote:anyone here read the question stems for LR first? Never tried it, wondering if anyone has an opinion
Yeah, I always do. It takes a second to glance and see what type of question it is, and what to look for in the ACs/stimulus.
There is another school of thought that thinks one should avoid reading the stem first, because it may distort your thinking and sort of keep you from reading the stimulus without a certain bias. Still, I have always thought the risk outweighs the reward.
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by Barack O'Drama » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:37 pm
thatlawlkid wrote:Mr. Meeseeks wrote:thatlawlkid wrote:anyone here read the question stems for LR first? Never tried it, wondering if anyone has an opinion
That's what I do. I feel like it helps me know what to look for in the prompt.
how do you score in LR, I normally go -3 per section and i'm wondering if this might be the switch that'll help me catch the slip ups, but I'm worried trying to change things for a 4th take end up messing me up
Try it out for a bit and then see if you're noticing a big difference one way or the other. If you aren't getting better results, just stick to the way you've learned it. Ive tried it both ways and definitely saw improvement when I read the stem first, but you gotta do what works for you. And only missing 3 isn't bad, so you must know your LR stuff pretty well. Any particular type of q you're missing?
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by proteinshake » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:39 pm
thatlawlkid wrote:anyone here read the question stems for LR first? Never tried it, wondering if anyone has an opinion
I never read the stems first and I never really go more than -3 across both LR sections in a PT.
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by meeseeks » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:41 pm
thatlawlkid wrote:Mr. Meeseeks wrote:thatlawlkid wrote:anyone here read the question stems for LR first? Never tried it, wondering if anyone has an opinion
That's what I do. I feel like it helps me know what to look for in the prompt.
how do you score in LR, I normally go -3 per section and i'm wondering if this might be the switch that'll help me catch the slip ups, but I'm worried trying to change things for a 4th take end up messing me up
I went -3 total in LR on the June test. Averaged around a -2 on my PTs
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by Alexandros » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:43 pm
SweetTort wrote:TheMikey wrote:34iplaw wrote:Alexandros wrote:
I just did some photocopying, accidentally put "576" for one two-sided combination, could not get the goddam machine to stop until it had printed out like at least fifty copies. I take the fifty copies, compose myself, and go to photocopy the next two games with the amount at "4," press Go - apparently I had only put the machine on pause or something, because the minute I press Go it starts printing out the same frigging game combination as before. I got it to stop after about twenty this time.
Hey, at least I'll know Games 23.1 and 23.2 really, really darn well.
I just do my games on looseleaf. I know it's not perfect, but I think it's acceptable while I drill games. I don't really get that tripped up when I do them on actual question sheets, and I find that I actually perform a good portion quicker on the answer sheets.
I'm the same, I just get loose leaf paper when drilling. Only time I ever did games on their actual page was during PTs.
I printed 10 copies of every LG. I now owe my soul to the printing place.
I do both - more often on a notebook because this is what happens when I try to operate a photocopier. But I like that printed games give you a better simulation of an actual test and for some reason I kind like doing the work directly on the question sheets better.
That's seriously impressive, SweetTort! Yeah, stoked for getting the bill for the cost of a car worth in printing fees from my school.
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by Mikey » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:46 pm
Mr. Meeseeks wrote:I went -3 total in LR on the June test. Averaged around a -2 on my PTs
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by thatlawlkid » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:46 pm
Hate quote trees, but too lazy to learn how to shorten them.
No real question type stands out, normally just get tripped up by a couple high lvl questions every time and go with the "trap" answer instead of the right one. I have a tendency to finish LR with over 5 minutes to spare so i guess I'll try reading stems, and see if that helps. if not maybe its just a tiny gap in my fundamentals that messes with me
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by Mikey » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:50 pm
thatlawlkid wrote:Hate quote trees, but too lazy to learn how to shorten them.
No real question type stands out, normally just get tripped up by a couple high lvl questions every time and go with the "trap" answer instead of the right one. I have a tendency to finish LR with over 5 minutes to spare so i guess I'll try reading stems, and see if that helps. if not maybe its just a tiny gap in my fundamentals that messes with me
If the harder LR questions (high level) are the issue, I've read another poster (forgot which thread) say that he made his own LR sections with the harder LR questions ONLY. This is what got him through the harder questions. I didn't do this, though I kind of regret it, but I do think it can be a way to do better on them.
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by Doubting Law » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:50 pm
Alexandros wrote:
I just did some photocopying, accidentally put "576" for one two-sided combination, could not get the goddam machine to stop until it had printed out like at least fifty copies. I take the fifty copies, compose myself, and go to photocopy the next two games with the amount at "4," press Go - apparently I had only put the machine on pause or something, because the minute I press Go it starts printing out the same frigging game combination as before. I got it to stop after about twenty this time.
Hey, at least I'll know Games 23.1 and 23.2 really, really darn well.
That sounds miserable. I hate my printer/photocopier sometimes.
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by thatlawlkid » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:51 pm
TheMikey wrote:thatlawlkid wrote:Hate quote trees, but too lazy to learn how to shorten them.
No real question type stands out, normally just get tripped up by a couple high lvl questions every time and go with the "trap" answer instead of the right one. I have a tendency to finish LR with over 5 minutes to spare so i guess I'll try reading stems, and see if that helps. if not maybe its just a tiny gap in my fundamentals that messes with me
If the harder LR questions (high level) are the issue, I've read another poster (forgot which thread) say that he made his own LR sections with the harder LR questions ONLY. This is what got him through the harder questions. I didn't do this, though I kind of regret it, but I do think it can be a way to do better on them.
yeah i'm going to redrill all of the cambridge packets again over the next 3 months so hopefully that helps. didnt get a chance to the them all done last year. I only bought them like a month before the test
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by Mikey » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:56 pm
thatlawlkid wrote:TheMikey wrote:thatlawlkid wrote:Hate quote trees, but too lazy to learn how to shorten them.
No real question type stands out, normally just get tripped up by a couple high lvl questions every time and go with the "trap" answer instead of the right one. I have a tendency to finish LR with over 5 minutes to spare so i guess I'll try reading stems, and see if that helps. if not maybe its just a tiny gap in my fundamentals that messes with me
If the harder LR questions (high level) are the issue, I've read another poster (forgot which thread) say that he made his own LR sections with the harder LR questions ONLY. This is what got him through the harder questions. I didn't do this, though I kind of regret it, but I do think it can be a way to do better on them.
yeah i'm going to redrill all of the cambridge packets again over the next 3 months so hopefully that helps. didnt get a chance to the them all done last year. I only bought them like a month before the test
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing. Except this time I'm using 7sage's curriculum, but it's more for brushing up on shit. Just went through their Main Point lessons/explanations and I'm about to drill some. I've always been good at MP questions since I think they're the easiest Q types, and I probably should've started out again with another question type, but fuck it, I need the confidence boost, haha.
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by meeseeks » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:30 pm
TheMikey wrote:Mr. Meeseeks wrote:I went -3 total in LR on the June test. Averaged around a -2 on my PTs
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Was that some not so subtle sarcasm Mikey?

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by carasrook » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:38 pm
SweetTort wrote:CTrus wrote:carasrook wrote:checking in, friends
short bio:
i was PTing at an average of 169 and SOMEHOW managed a 161 on the june test... i'm still devastated about it and think i need to give myself another week or two before i start studying again, but i already registered for the september test, so here we go!!
any advice on where to begin for retakers? i was not planning on retaking, and thus, i don't think i have ANY fresh tests (i was dumb and wrote all over them - i think i may need to just buy tests again which is also a huge bummer after just paying $180 to take the test again)
also - i did my best ever in RC in june and absolutely bombed games. i knew it was happening during the test, but i didn't think it would be as bad as it was (-9). games are usually my best section, and i've never gotten more than 3 wrong per section. i also way underperformed in LR.
Same thing happened to me, was PTing in high 160's and hit 160 on the real thing. Games and LR killed me, and LR is usually my strongest (I went -9 and -14, respectively). Deezastair
Anything you would have done differently in your prep? I'm worried about a big test day drop.
Not really... I think I need to focus better on timing for LG and tighten up some of my core skills in LR, but I'm not sure what happened on test day, which is what makes me nervous! I think it must've been a mix of first-time nerves and also a little bit of burnout... I started to drop in my PTs the weeks leading up to it... I really don't know what happened. I feel like I just had a very unfortunate bad day. Let's hope, at least. And let's hope I don't have another bad day on September 24th D:
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by Mikey » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:39 pm
Mr. Meeseeks wrote:TheMikey wrote:Mr. Meeseeks wrote:I went -3 total in LR on the June test. Averaged around a -2 on my PTs
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Was that some not so subtle sarcasm Mikey?

No sarcasm. The 'LOVE' at the end was an emphasis btw
Nah but on a real note bro, I wish I had gotten your score! Either way, we're all going to kill it this September.
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