The Official December 2015 Study Group Forum

Mint-Berry_Crunch · Post by **Mint-Berry_Crunch** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:44 pm

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PoopNpants · Post by **PoopNpants** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:45 pm

pleadthafif wrote:
Davey Jones wrote:
pterodactyls wrote:Honestly if I could get down to -4/-5 on RC I'd be happy. I currently range anywhere from -5 to -10. RC will be the death of me.

McJimJam wrote:I just want consistency, my RC has been anywhere from -4 to -7. If I could consistently get -4 or -3 on it I'd be set. Glad I finally get all of Thanksgiving week off this year, hope all that time helps.
i'm here too. i range from -4/-7. i'm actually just assuming i'm going to get -7 at this point and i'm working on making my lr more consistent. hopefully i can get into the 170s with a perfect lg and only -2 or -3 on lr.
What prep books did you use for RC? Some people have said Manhattan's RC book really helped them, and I personally benefitted a lot from The LSAT Trainer's approach. I think the key is to not get bogged down with details. Recognize that every sentence is either one of four things: background information, supporting information, opposing information, or a point/conclusion. That's it. Recognize the purpose of the sentences/paragraphs and not the details and it becomes a lot easier.

I've used manhattan RC this past month and I think it has helped me get down to about -2/3 and I used to be in the -7 to -4 range. I read actively and try to figure the scale of the passage, alot of RC passages are just arguments or the author discussion some theory, practice, etc. One thing I learned from the RC book that was helpful was to make sure I re-assess and fully understand what i'm reading so now I spend maybe around 3 minutes per passage when I used to just blaze thru them quickly and focus on the questions.

flash21 · Post by **flash21** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:13 pm

has anyone else that is re-taking PT's been just killing their PT's? I know for a fact it is because I am re-taking them but it is really infuriating to not be able to tell what your true score is. sigh.

Mint-Berry_Crunch · Post by **Mint-Berry_Crunch** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:17 pm

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flash21 · Post by **flash21** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:44 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
flash21 wrote:has anyone else that is re-taking PT's been just killing their PT's? I know for a fact it is because I am re-taking them but it is really infuriating to not be able to tell what your true score is. sigh.

I really liked what bromandude does. If you remember a question, subtract it from your raw score. It gives you a really pessimistic score, but at least you're not tricking yourself into thinking you're higher.

Yeah true, I'll start doing this for sure. PT 70 went well today although I wasn't feeling the best.

How has your PT's and prep been going? I am getting anxious to re-take 76

Mint-Berry_Crunch · Post by **Mint-Berry_Crunch** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:50 pm

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flash21 · Post by **flash21** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:52 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
flash21 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
flash21 wrote:has anyone else that is re-taking PT's been just killing their PT's? I know for a fact it is because I am re-taking them but it is really infuriating to not be able to tell what your true score is. sigh.

I really liked what bromandude does. If you remember a question, subtract it from your raw score. It gives you a really pessimistic score, but at least you're not tricking yourself into thinking you're higher.
Yeah true, I'll start doing this for sure. PT 70 went well today although I wasn't feeling the best.

How has your PT's and prep been going? I am getting anxious to re-take 76

It's going. I'm trying to start forcing myself to focus for longer periods, which is my biggest challenge. Been moving from untimed to timed to 4 section PTs. My problem is maintaining focus all the way trough LR. I won't miss any 1-19, but will miss several at the end of sections.

I'm kinda looking forward to 76, but I probably won't do it for a couple more weeks.

Yeah I won't be taking 76 until the week before. I think me and you discussed this previously actually.

I'm hoping meditating will help me with anxiety and focus. Have you been doing it at all? I can send a link to some guided meditations that I like if you'd like. I just listen to them off youtube.

Mint-Berry_Crunch · Post by **Mint-Berry_Crunch** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:08 pm

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davey jones · Post by **davey jones** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:13 pm

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mintme · Post by **mintme** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:20 pm

I just did half of a PT (all I have time for before class). -3 on LG, -9 on LR1. Ecstatic about my LG score since I've been drilling LG like crazy lately. But I've been neglecting LR and it shows. Back to LR drilling I go.

slizerd · Post by **slizerd** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:27 pm

december1205 wrote:
slizerd wrote:Out of fresh PTs, so I'm about to redo my first ever diagnostic! It's the June 2007 one that's free from the LSAT site...first time taking it I got a 159 (untimed). Hopefully this will show good improvement!

Gl!

Thanks! Ended up doing really well!

LG: -0
LR: -3 timed, -2 BR
RC: -2 timed, -1 BR

174 timed, 177 BR

Now if I can just keep that up...

Mint-Berry_Crunch · Post by **Mint-Berry_Crunch** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:30 pm

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mintme · Post by **mintme** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:43 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
slizerd wrote:
december1205 wrote:
slizerd wrote:Out of fresh PTs, so I'm about to redo my first ever diagnostic! It's the June 2007 one that's free from the LSAT site...first time taking it I got a 159 (untimed). Hopefully this will show good improvement!

Gl!
Thanks! Ended up doing really well!

LG: -0
LR: -3 timed, -2 BR
RC: -2 timed, -1 BR

174 timed, 177 BR

Now if I can just keep that up...

Can I have your LR?

Kthnx

You take the LR, I'll take the RC

davey jones · Post by **davey jones** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:48 pm

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Mint-Berry_Crunch · Post by **Mint-Berry_Crunch** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:02 pm

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davey jones · Post by **davey jones** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:13 pm

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bnssweeney · Post by **bnssweeney** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:46 pm

Used all my 70s, 60s, later 50s PTs in my prep for the Oct test. Should I retake them (and assumably get an inflated score), or use earlier 50s PTs? Thing is, I want to prep with questions that resemble newer tests, and I'm afraid the earlier questions won't give me that.

Opinions?

slizerd · Post by **slizerd** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:54 pm

Davey Jones wrote:
mintme wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
slizerd wrote:
december1205 wrote:
slizerd wrote:Out of fresh PTs, so I'm about to redo my first ever diagnostic! It's the June 2007 one that's free from the LSAT site...first time taking it I got a 159 (untimed). Hopefully this will show good improvement!

Gl!
Thanks! Ended up doing really well!

LG: -0
LR: -3 timed, -2 BR
RC: -2 timed, -1 BR

174 timed, 177 BR

Now if I can just keep that up...

Can I have your LR?

Kthnx
You take the LR, I'll take the RC
i'd be good with the score, don't care how it's distributed hahah

Hahah I love you guys. I'm just hoping I can do that well with stress at 9 am, instead of just with coffee and clif bars at 4 PM. I really need to make more time to actually simulate better test conditions

slizerd · Post by **slizerd** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:56 pm

bnssweeney wrote:Used all my 70s, 60s, later 50s PTs in my prep for the Oct test. Should I retake them (and assumably get an inflated score), or use earlier 50s PTs? Thing is, I want to prep with questions that resemble newer tests, and I'm afraid the earlier questions won't give me that.

Opinions?

I would use the earlier PTs just as quick practice (i.e. just do one section a day, or spread them out throughout the day) and then use the more recent ones to simulate test conditions.