The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS Forum

[34iplaw]

Sorry. I couldn't resist the temptation to take the 1776th post once I saw that my previous one was the 1775th.



Happy preemptive Fourth!

edit: I had literally zero idea how big that would be.

[Barack O'Drama]

Checking in here, retaking again in September. Just scored a 158 on the June LSAT... RC is my nemesis (and I also screwed up on my typically-best sections - LR).

I have lots of material on me (4 Kaplan books and the latest SuperPrep book), but I'm not sure if any of it is still unused. I need some new stuff, but looking to save some money. What do you rec? 7Sage? Testmaster? LSAT Trainer? I need some new PTs'

Thanks! My ultimate goal is now a 164 (90th percentile).

LSAT Trainer, lots of PTs, and 7Sage free video explanations.

[Barack O'Drama]

Sorry. I couldn't resist the temptation to take the 1776th post once I saw that my previous one was the 1775th.


Happy preemptive Fourth!

edit: I had literally zero idea how big that would be.

'Murica

[Alexandros]

Oh man, just went -4 on an LR section. ERCK. So much for my improvement. Taking up SweetTort's idea about typing up explanations.
(Was about to change my answer on one but time ran out but even if I'd have had time, still a -3)

side note - if anyone's stumped on LR solutions, I'm finding this to be a good resource https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/foru ... ng-f4.html

[Alexandros]

Sorry. I couldn't resist the temptation to take the 1776th post once I saw that my previous one was the 1775th.


Happy preemptive Fourth!

edit: I had literally zero idea how big that would be.

baha LOVE IT

[Doubting Law]

Sorry. I couldn't resist the temptation to take the 1776th post once I saw that my previous one was the 1775th.


Happy preemptive Fourth!

edit: I had literally zero idea how big that would be.

'Murica

Anyone else immediately think of the Team America theme song?

[Deardevil]

Oh man, just went -4 on an LR section. ERCK. So much for my improvement. Taking up SweetTort's idea about typing up explanations.
(Was about to change my answer on one but time ran out but even if I'd have had time, still a -3)

side note - if anyone's stumped on LR solutions, I'm finding this to be a good resource https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/foru ... ng-f4.html

Better than -12... *long, deep sigh*

[Doubting Law]

Oh man, just went -4 on an LR section. ERCK. So much for my improvement. Taking up SweetTort's idea about typing up explanations.
(Was about to change my answer on one but time ran out but even if I'd have had time, still a -3)

side note - if anyone's stumped on LR solutions, I'm finding this to be a good resource https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/foru ... ng-f4.html

Better than -12... *long, deep sigh*

Its very possible to improve LR. I was at about -12 a month ago, now averaging around -4 to -5.

[34iplaw]

Oh man, just went -4 on an LR section. ERCK. So much for my improvement. Taking up SweetTort's idea about typing up explanations.
(Was about to change my answer on one but time ran out but even if I'd have had time, still a -3)

side note - if anyone's stumped on LR solutions, I'm finding this to be a good resource https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/foru ... ng-f4.html

Better than -12... *long, deep sigh*

Definitely. Understand every right and wrong answer. If you are getting a question right by luck or the wrong reasoning during prep, you might as well be getting it wrong, IMO.

[Deardevil]

Its very possible to improve LR. I was at about -12 a month ago, now averaging around -4 to -5.

I'm just very impatient haha. Any suggestions on where to start improving?
I'm currently drilling the SuperPrep's LR sections before moving onto the early batch of PTs.
I did not expect LR to be this huge of a mare of night... Praying RC is more bearable.

[Deardevil]

Definitely. Understand every right and wrong answer. If you are getting a question right by luck or the wrong reasoning during prep, you might as well be getting it wrong, IMO.

Rightaroonie. I'm using the 7Sage method of circling those I'm not "100% on,"
which makes a lot of sense, but damn, did I circle almost everything lol...
Ended up with 28/50, which could be worse, I suppose.

[BirdLawExpert]

Sorry. I couldn't resist the temptation to take the 1776th post once I saw that my previous one was the 1775th.



Happy preemptive Fourth!

edit: I had literally zero idea how big that would be.

Great minds or something,behold my 1776th post from the Senioritis Thread.

[34iplaw]

Sorry. I couldn't resist the temptation to take the 1776th post once I saw that my previous one was the 1775th.



Happy preemptive Fourth!

edit: I had literally zero idea how big that would be.

Great minds or something,behold my 1776th post from the Senioritis Thread.

I couldn't decide whether removing the image from the quote or intentionally including it to get more bald eagle [sounds dirty] on the page. Great minds indeed. Your post is far superior. I was far too worried about not getting the 1776 slot, so I quickly googled flag eagle and posted.

Rightaroonie. I'm using the 7Sage method of circling those I'm not "100% on,"
which makes a lot of sense, but damn, did I circle almost everything lol...
Ended up with 28/50, which could be worse, I suppose.

Yeah - TBH, I go over it briefly even if I got it right. Granted, I have more time than most likely. If I think something is an incorrect reversal, incorrect negation, or eliminated because it forces another answer to be true, I always jot that down [IR, IN, a curved arrow from one choice to the other]. I'll check it if it was right or cross it out if it was wrong. Perhaps, I won't do this as I get further on, but I think it's really helpful early on to look for these ways to eliminate answers and sort of count them as their own question. I think it also helps you get more comfortable with conditional logic when you also look for it in the answer choices and make notes of logical fallacies. I think this is *really* important to do if you picked an answer based on process of elimination [which I kind of think is a better way to approach these questions in general.]

[Mikey]

checking in, friends

short bio:
i was PTing at an average of 169 and SOMEHOW managed a 161 on the june test... i'm still devastated about it and think i need to give myself another week or two before i start studying again, but i already registered for the september test, so here we go!!

any advice on where to begin for retakers? i was not planning on retaking, and thus, i don't think i have ANY fresh tests (i was dumb and wrote all over them - i think i may need to just buy tests again which is also a huge bummer after just paying $180 to take the test again)

also - i did my best ever in RC in june and absolutely bombed games. i knew it was happening during the test, but i didn't think it would be as bad as it was (-9). games are usually my best section, and i've never gotten more than 3 wrong per section. i also way underperformed in LR.

Cara, sorry about your score not being what you wanted it to be. You will certainly get it next time though, I know you can!

Yeah I thought at worst I would go -3 in LG but I got -10. Like, wot. How did you do on game 2? It's the one that fucked me the most because now that I look at it, I think I misread a rule or something.

I still haven't gotten to go back and really look through it yet, but game 3 really messed me up. I skipped it because of time and came back and I think I must've misread it or something bc I really couldn't figure it out on test-day and ended up having to guess on like all of them, and then I missed 1 on game 2 and 2 on game 4, idek, I need to go back and figure out what happened

Hmm game 3, I got 1 wrong on that one but for me it was game 2 that destroyed me. I also skipped a game but I skipped game 2 and couldn't finish it because of some mistakes I made in another game that I had to fix which ate up tons of time. I don't know if I will actually go back and see what I missed, I'm thinking of using this test as a "fresh" PT when I starting doing them again. Don't know if this is a good idea or not, or if I should actually go back and check where I went wrong in things? DON'T WORRY CARA, WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER!!

[Mikey]

Amazing advice bird! I've never actually thought about meditation but I am 100% willing to try it at this point. You're completely right about the whole mind racing during the test thing. During PT and the real thing, I always found myself stressing over a previous question or the fact that I probably wasn't going to do well. I think that this meditation technique will benefit me. Especially for the June test, my nerves got to me and I was off focus for the majority of the first 2 sections which screwed me the most. Thanks again for the advice.

Also, I'm sure you're starting law school this fall and I just wanna say best of luck to you!

Thanks! Hopefully it helps you out. Anyone should feel free to pm me if you want more information or clarifications, or just call me into the thread via quote. I've been working with students on test-taking skills since I was in high school, so chances are I've got experience with whatever you might be struggling with. Meditation is a great blanket tool, though, and anyone who is having issues with test day performance should seriously consider it.

And thanks for the well wishes! I'm excited to move up to Austin and get everything started. Until then I'll just be killing time, doing classic old man things like giving advice that nobody asked for haha.

Unasked for advice or not, it's still very helpful! Haha. I will for sure shoot you a PM or quote in the future for something!

[BirdLawExpert]

Great minds or something,behold my 1776th post from the Senioritis Thread.

I couldn't decide whether removing the image from the quote or intentionally including it to get more bald eagle [sounds dirty] on the page. Great minds indeed. Your post is far superior. I was far too worried about not getting the 1776 slot, so I quickly googled flag eagle and posted.

Haha well it helps that it was my 1776th post and not the threads. Yours was rather excellent, as well, no need to compare. With patriotism, everyone wins

[20170322]

Just went -0 on a pack of 5 games.

Starting to get excited about attacking this test. I have 3 months, lots of free time, enough money to get by, and a focused mind. Like, if I'm ever going to do well on this test, it's going to be now. Going to give it everything I've got.

[Mikey]

Just went -0 on a pack of 5 games.

Starting to get excited about attacking this test. I have 3 months, lots of free time, enough money to get by, and a focused mind. Like, if I'm ever going to do well on this test, it's going to be now. Going to give it everything I've got.

Very nice! Keep it up, and like I said before, I'm putting up money on you getting that 180

[proteinshake]

about halfway done with Manhattan LR. gonna finish it up within the next week and get into these PTs!

[Alexandros]

Its very possible to improve LR. I was at about -12 a month ago, now averaging around -4 to -5.

I'm just very impatient haha. Any suggestions on where to start improving?
I'm currently drilling the SuperPrep's LR sections before moving onto the early batch of PTs.
I did not expect LR to be this huge of a mare of night... Praying RC is more bearable.

I recommend Manhattan LR, but that's the only book I used aside from the Trainer. I also just went -4 and -3 (oof) so I'm officially not a qualified authority on these matters.

Side note - I still don't get 25.4 Q 23. ????? I swear I'm not this bad at conditional logic.

I'm hungry and tired and don't want to be drilling right now, so I figure this is the perfect time to drill. RC here we go!

[34iplaw]

Just got through December 2004 RC Passage 2. It felt hard, but I was pretty confident with my answers. I'm relieved to see that it is generally regarded as a very difficult passage [even makes an Honorable Mention in PowerScore's top ten killer RC passage list]. I'm *really* irritated, because I went 7/8 on it. I switched my answer on the first question from what was the right answer to what I assume is the sucker choice. What irritates me is that one line, 'This historical issue may be dismissed at the outset as irrelevant' sort of lended credence to three wrong answer choices, IMO, but, I suppose, that is only one line.

So far...
Oct 1994 passage 3 - 7/7
June 1993 passage 1 - 6/6
December 2004 passage 2 - 7/8

[20170322]

Reviewing this PT. Every since RC Q missed was circled, and on a few I erased the right answer and put a wrong one. So, I seem to be able to identify my worst questions, now I just need to be able to answer them correctly.

[Barack O'Drama]

I feel really guilty... I haven't been doing much LSAT stuff today. I maybe studied for ~2 hours this morning. Now I've just been busy running errands, doing laundry, cleaning, getting a hair cut, and 10 other things I've been putting off.

Guess I'll just hit it hard tomorrow. Maybe even do some stuff later. On a bright note, I did print out a bunch of PTs and packets I've been meaning to print. And now I have plenty of paper and ink for my printer so I'll be able to print out lots of games to re-do.

[34iplaw]

I feel really guilty... I haven't been doing much LSAT stuff today. I maybe studied for ~2 hours this morning. Now I've just been busy running errands, doing laundry, cleaning, getting a hair cut, and 10 other things I've been putting off.

Guess I'll just hit it hard tomorrow. Maybe even do some stuff later. On a bright note, I did print out a bunch of PTs and packets I've been meaning to print. And now I have plenty of paper and ink for my printer so I'll be able to print out lots of games to re-do.

Well, you freed up more time to prep tomorrow, so it can be looked at as studying in a way! Just need to make sure you use the freed up time to study diligently!

Testmasters Academic support is going to hate me from my RC questions.

For anyone familiar with the passage December 2004 Passage 2, here's my main issue. How subtle can they be about tone? There are three wrong answer choices that are all linked together [in my mind] and are all related to tone...#11 - C, #13 - B, and #14 - B which are given credence by line #34 where the issues may be dismissed as irrelevant. I'm not sure why, but this read quite academically sassy to me. I guess there just isn't any other examples of 'bemused dismissal' and that the author gives most criticisms the light of day. I guess it was a confidence issue on my part possibly.

Also, does anyone know of a resource that gives good explanation on passages? All Testmasters does is this like 'word....word' line ###. I don't really find their explanations on these helpful except for find the explicit mentions of things in the passage.

[20170322]

Just tried the Black Ticonderogas for the first time. OMG, this is some next level shit. Best pencil EVER.


ALSO, my 1 missed LG question on this PT was because I literally misread the chart. Like, I wrote the chart and had the correct answer, and then I read the wrong variable. Sloppy sloppy sloppy.