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Post by Deardevil » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:05 pm

maybeman wrote:Checking in. 5+ months to go! Sup people!
Ayyyy, about time!

Where you at in your studies?

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Deardevil wrote:
maybeman wrote:Checking in. 5+ months to go! Sup people!
Ayyyy, about time!

Where you at in your studies?
At the intersection of tears and biz school apps :D. Just finished the 7Sage curriculum and am now reading the Trainer & PTing! It's going decently well actually lol. Making progress. How about you??

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Post by Deardevil » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:25 pm

maybeman wrote: At the intersection of tears and biz school apps :D. Just finished the 7Sage curriculum and am now reading the Trainer & PTing! It's going decently well actually lol. Making progress. How about you??
Haha same, same. Not at the level of PTs yet, sadly. My LR has a loooong way.

Meanwhile, I have a huge craving for pizza and breadsticks...
Might have to tip tenfold for delivery in this rainy weather, though; don't think my cheapass would have that, but BREADSTICKS.

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Post by maybeman » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:34 pm

Deardevil wrote:
maybeman wrote: At the intersection of tears and biz school apps :D. Just finished the 7Sage curriculum and am now reading the Trainer & PTing! It's going decently well actually lol. Making progress. How about you??
Haha same, same. Not at the level of PTs yet, sadly. My LR has a loooong way.

Meanwhile, I have a huge craving for pizza and breadsticks...
Might have to tip tenfold for delivery in this rainy weather, though; don't think my cheapass would have that, but BREADSTICKS.
Breadsticks... yes.

Probably going to only do a PT every 3 or so weeks until I'm done with the Trainer. My diagnostic & first PT were literally the same score :oops: so definitely gonna hit the books again haha

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Post by Deardevil » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:55 pm

maybeman wrote: Breadsticks... yes.

Probably going to only do a PT every 3 or so weeks until I'm done with the Trainer. My diagnostic & first PT were literally the same score :oops: so definitely gonna hit the books again haha
Not a bad plan regarding the Trainer.
How many PTs have you taken so far? I feel so behind...
And don't sweat the diagnostic; means very little [unless 170+].
Only about one PT per month, though?

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Post by maybeman » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:44 pm

Just 2 so far-162, 162. With 5 months to go I don't think you're anywhere near behind haha. Nah I mean 1 PT every 3 or so weeks while in the Trainer's curriculum (for about 9 weeks). Then I'll probably take around two a week until December. Sound right? I'll change it as I go, but that seems like sufficient prep

You're using PSBs, yeah? Everybody recommends them, thinking of buying the LG one..

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maybeman wrote:Just 2 so far-162, 162. With 5 months to go I don't think you're anywhere near behind haha. Nah I mean 1 PT every 3 or so weeks while in the Trainer's curriculum (for about 9 weeks). Then I'll probably take around two a week until December. Sound right? I'll change it as I go, but that seems like sufficient prep

You're using PSBs, yeah? Everybody recommends them, thinking of buying the LG one..
Oh, okay, that makes more sense.

Yeah, LRB was the first of the duo (bar RCB) that I've gone through. LGB is Magneato.
The only one you need, imo. Though I'm more familiarized with the Trainer's game notations.

LG still remains my best section; knew that from the get-go.
But I do occasionally misread or make the silliest mistakes, so it's certainly not to be taken lightly...
I've always thought RC would be my worst, but turns out I'm actually quite okay with it;
got my best score today, which beats my best in LR, so I'm really happy about that. Just need to keep it up.

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Post by maybeman » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:15 pm

Deardevil wrote:
maybeman wrote:Just 2 so far-162, 162. With 5 months to go I don't think you're anywhere near behind haha. Nah I mean 1 PT every 3 or so weeks while in the Trainer's curriculum (for about 9 weeks). Then I'll probably take around two a week until December. Sound right? I'll change it as I go, but that seems like sufficient prep

You're using PSBs, yeah? Everybody recommends them, thinking of buying the LG one..
Oh, okay, that makes more sense.

Yeah, LRB was the first of the duo (bar RCB) that I've gone through. LGB is Magneato.
The only one you need, imo. Though I'm more familiarized with the Trainer's game notations.

LG still remains my best section; knew that from the get-go.
But I do occasionally misread or make the silliest mistakes, so it's certainly not to be taken lightly...
I've always thought RC would be my worst, but turns out I'm actually quite okay with it;
got my best score today, which beats my best in LR, so I'm really happy about that. Just need to keep it up.
Congrats!! & pretty jealous of those LG skills you have.. although I know I'll eventually get there lol. I have some timing problems with RC and tend to end up rushing the last section. Jut starting to drill 7Sage's memory method, as I never actually tried it during the curriculum. Hopefully that helps

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maybeman wrote: Congrats!! & pretty jealous of those LG skills you have.. although I know I'll eventually get there lol. I have some timing problems with RC and tend to end up rushing the last section. Jut starting to drill 7Sage's memory method, as I never actually tried it during the curriculum. Hopefully that helps
For me, biggest issue with RC is time, but in doing the 7Sage memory method,
I see myself underlining less and less, which saves a BUNCH of seconds.
It really works! Just got another -4 drilling RC. Never thought I'd see the day. :D

For LG, misunderstandings...
The feeling of knowing you could've gotten something correct if you slowed down or had a better diagram is not a good one.
NEED to get -0 on test day.

LR... Still accuracy. No idea what I'm lacking, but I better figure it out soon because 3X/50 is a huge red flag.
Even if I get a higher RC, I absolutely have to get this down to a minimum.

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Post by maybeman » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:44 pm

Deardevil wrote:
maybeman wrote: Congrats!! & pretty jealous of those LG skills you have.. although I know I'll eventually get there lol. I have some timing problems with RC and tend to end up rushing the last section. Jut starting to drill 7Sage's memory method, as I never actually tried it during the curriculum. Hopefully that helps
For me, biggest issue with RC is time, but in doing the 7Sage memory method,
I see myself underlining less and less, which saves a BUNCH of seconds.
It really works! Just got another -4 drilling RC. Never thought I'd see the day. :D

For LG, misunderstandings...
The feeling of knowing you could've gotten something correct if you slowed down or had a better diagram is not a good one.
NEED to get -0 on test day.

LR... Still accuracy. No idea what I'm lacking, but I better figure it out soon because 3X/50 is a huge red flag.
Even if I get a higher RC, I absolutely have to get this down to a minimum.
Gettin me hyped.. bout to drill memory method after work a bunch lol.

Thanking my lucky stars LR is my stronger section. Though PF and NA questions consistently leave me clueless

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Post by Deardevil » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:29 pm

Seem to be getting significantly worse at games (-8 on fifth PT). What is happening...?

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Post by Deardevil » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:56 pm

SHIT. Picked the wrong answer when I wanted something else that looks almost exactly alike...

And got three consecutive questions wrong due to terrible wording. #fml

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Got destroyed in RC with -9 on the sixth PT... -3 on LG. Slow gain. Much dishearten. :|

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Post by Barack O'Drama » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:18 pm

Deardevil wrote:Got destroyed in RC with -9 on the sixth PT... -3 on LG. Slow gain. Much dishearten. :|

Don't get disheartened. It is most likely a fluke, it is expected. Some sections are just a whole lot more challenging.

Just stay motivated to keep going and you will eventually start to get more consistent.
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Post by maybeman » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:16 pm

Barack O'Drama wrote:
Deardevil wrote:Got destroyed in RC with -9 on the sixth PT... -3 on LG. Slow gain. Much dishearten. :|

Don't get disheartened. It is most likely a fluke, it is expected. Some sections are just a whole lot more challenging.

Just stay motivated to keep going and you will eventually start to get more consistent.
Are you guys sitting in Dec for this cycle?

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Post by Deardevil » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:17 pm

Barack O'Drama wrote: Don't get disheartened. It is most likely a fluke, it is expected. Some sections are just a whole lot more challenging.

Just stay motivated to keep going and you will eventually start to get more consistent.
Yeah... 3/6 on the first passage; tough.
Got another wrong because I only read halfway through everything and circled the one that seemed to match a pre-phrase;
of course, the second half contains irrelvant information. :evil:
Need to read the whole thing next time.
3/6 on the last somehow; thought it was pretty easy (reviewing now).

PS. Thanks for always being a ray of sunshine. :D

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Post by scalawag » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:37 pm

For in out grouping games are you all diagraming like Powerscore or 7Sage?

Thanks

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scalawag wrote:For in out grouping games are you all diagraming like Powerscore or 7Sage?

Thanks

7Sage all the way. I hated HATED the way LGB did grouping. I adopted Manhattan's technique for a week or so, and it worked really, really well for certain types of in-out-grouping games. But it is easy to get messed up and make errors if your handwriting and lines aren't neat.

So I've been using 7Sage. It's clean, straightforward, and works very mechanically. It just "clicked" with me, if you know what I mean.
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Post by Barack O'Drama » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:45 pm

Deardevil wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote: Don't get disheartened. It is most likely a fluke, it is expected. Some sections are just a whole lot more challenging.

Just stay motivated to keep going and you will eventually start to get more consistent.
Yeah... 3/6 on the first passage; tough.
Got another wrong because I only read halfway through everything and circled the one that seemed to match a pre-phrase;
of course, the second half contains irrelvant information. :evil:
Need to read the whole thing next time.
3/6 on the last somehow; thought it was pretty easy (reviewing now).

PS. Thanks for always being a ray of sunshine. :D

Of course, DearDevil. You can't let those things ever get you disheartened. My trick is always remembering the best I've ever done on a section and remembering that I am 100% capable of that. And also when sections like those are much more challenging, other parts of the test are easier to compensate. :D
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Post by Walliums » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:47 pm

Been away from the books a few days. Couple really crappy few days at work lately.

I can see by the poll that some exist, but anyone else here not in school and not studying for the LSAT full-time?

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Post by Nah B » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:19 pm

Walliums wrote:Been away from the books a few days. Couple really crappy few days at work lately.

I can see by the poll that some exist, but anyone else here not in school and not studying for the LSAT full-time?
I'm somewhat in the same boat. I'm not in school but I am enrolled in an online business certification course that's been eating into my LSAT study time quite a bit. That along with life in general, traveling, work. You have ~4 months before the December administration so no need to beat yourself up if you miss a few days. I just try to stay as consistent as possible and if you can fit even a little study into each day, consistency is key. Letting the brain rest a few days can't hurt. Good luck.

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Post by scalawag » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:53 pm

Barack O'Drama wrote:
scalawag wrote:For in out grouping games are you all diagraming like Powerscore or 7Sage?

Thanks

7Sage all the way. I hated HATED the way LGB did grouping. I adopted Manhattan's technique for a week or so, and it worked really, really well for certain types of in-out-grouping games. But it is easy to get messed up and make errors if your handwriting and lines aren't neat.

So I've been using 7Sage. It's clean, straightforward, and works very mechanically. It just "clicked" with me, if you know what I mean.
Thanks for the reply. I'm not opposed to Powerscores method just because I'm used to it.

It does not work well for some games - case in point practice test 24 game 4 (page 11 of Cambridge In Out packet). If anyone is successful with this game using Powerscore please let me know how you did it.

Another game is the bird watchers game - the way he solves that in the LGB is really making the game more difficult but I think some of his diagramming techniques and the inferences he teaches make other games easier.

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Post by scalawag » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:29 pm

Yea I'm going with 7 Sage for the board and I'll keep some things from Powerscore.

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Post by scalawag » Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:10 pm

Just smoked some weed - can't even tell I have Crohn's. I'll have a medical card soon in the state in which I reside so no big deal whatever as Bruno would say.

Y'all have got me pumped about going -0 on games. I never would have thought it to be possible for me. I just realized how much time I have until December.

What are your post law school ambitions?

Mine are kind of twofold - go to USC, study entertainment law hopefully work on some copyright law cases. USC has briefed every music copyright case and I've always wanted to go over them, especially with scores. I would love to work on something the Zeppelin case (rock, blues, jazz, classical, funk etc.) but no so interested in computers and what part of that is copyrightable (techno, electronic) I know theory and play a traditional instrument so that's the area I feel like I could do effectively. The Zeppelin verdict was spot on - you can't copyright a chord progression - they're too commonplace. If Spirit had written the arpeggios into the song (which would in turn be a melody) then they would have reached the burden of proof. That's actually what I thought had happened because every radio station basically said they ripped it off.

The other one is go to a state school and work for the public defender's office. I would probably spend that time building a website for the family firm, which doesn't see much action nowadays. There's this one firm that I would have to beat in Google rankings and if anyone asked how I did it I would say it just happened.

If any of you are going to be solo practitioners you can go to http://www.teamtreehouse.com. Learning HTML, and CSS would be enough to build a website and if you learn JavaScript then you could do some killer stuff and make an easy jump to PHP for webforms (the code to do that correctly doesn't take much).

As far as SEO having a FAQ or pages that detail information specific to the categories of the legal services you provide and how scenarios will affect your clients will help out a ton. There are new attorney and lawyer domain names that might help as well. I've also heard having pictures helps and found in experience that the HTML meta description tag helps a lot.

Anyways would like to hear about what you want to do with a law degree. What motivates you to take this test?

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scalawag wrote:Just smoked some weed - can't even tell I have Crohn's. I'll have a medical card soon in the state in which I reside so no big deal whatever as Bruno would say.

Y'all have got me pumped about going -0 on games. I never would have thought it to be possible for me. I just realized how much time I have until December.

What are your post law school ambitions?

Mine are kind of twofold - go to USC, study entertainment law hopefully work on some copyright law cases. USC has briefed every music copyright case and I've always wanted to go over them, especially with scores. I would love to work on something the Zeppelin case (rock, blues, jazz, classical, funk etc.) but no so interested in computers and what part of that is copyrightable (techno, electronic) I know theory and play a traditional instrument so that's the area I feel like I could do effectively. The Zeppelin verdict was spot on - you can't copyright a chord progression - they're too commonplace. If Spirit had written the arpeggios into the song (which would in turn be a melody) then they would have reached the burden of proof. That's actually what I thought had happened because every radio station basically said they ripped it off.

The other one is go to a state school and work for the public defender's office. I would probably spend that time building a website for the family firm, which doesn't see much action nowadays. There's this one firm that I would have to beat in Google rankings and if anyone asked how I did it I would say it just happened.

If any of you are going to be solo practitioners you can go to http://www.teamtreehouse.com. Learning HTML, and CSS would be enough to build a website and if you learn JavaScript then you could do some killer stuff and make an easy jump to PHP for webforms (the code to do that correctly doesn't take much).

As far as SEO having a FAQ or pages that detail information specific to the categories of the legal services you provide and how scenarios will affect your clients will help out a ton. There are new attorney and lawyer domain names that might help as well. I've also heard having pictures helps and found in experience that the HTML meta description tag helps a lot.

Anyways would like to hear about what you want to do with a law degree. What motivates you to take this test?
Haha! Nice ;) I'm glad to hear it helps with medical stuff...

Plans for after I graduate... Hmmm... Cliche, but Big law. I seem to be the person cut out for it. I'd like to do that and then get good training at a good firm and then see what the future holds. If I like it and am good at it, I'd like to stay. But if I'm miserable I'll leave and do something I like better. Recently I've become H /Y or bust, so hopefully I'll have some decent options. I don't really see myself staying in law forever and there is lots I'd love to do.
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