December 2011 LSAT Study Group Forum

LSAT Blog · Post by **LSAT Blog** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:33 pm

man_utd_4l wrote:
afghanbeautyo1 wrote:Does anyone have any suggestions to do better on the LR? I get the most wrong in that section. Any tips would be appreciated.
Hard for us to give feedback without knowing what you have already/are currently doing in terms of LR.

Here are a bunch of general LR tips. If you let us know your weak areas / more specific questions, we can give more specific help related to those weak areas.

lhess218 · Post by **lhess218** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:59 pm

Change of plans:
I just found out that I'm going to be out of town until Sunday afternoon, and I'm supposed to be leading Week 4's session. Is there anyway that we can have week 4 still be on Wednesday? If that doesn't work, would anyone be willing to take my spot for that Sunday session?

Thanks in advance!

Manhattan LSAT Noah · Post by **Manhattan LSAT Noah** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:09 pm

lhess218 wrote:Change of plans:
I just found out that I'm going to be out of town until Sunday afternoon, and I'm supposed to be leading Week 4's session. Is there anyway that we can have week 4 still be on Wednesday? If that doesn't work, would anyone be willing to take my spot for that Sunday session?

Thanks in advance!

Whatever works for the majority.

I'll leave it to you guys to have the leader for any session e-mail me a couple of days before the session so I know when to get slides in there for them, etc.

tehrocstar · Post by **tehrocstar** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:37 pm

Hey guys - I'm in the room right now, starting around 8pm. Hope to see some of you guys there!

barneytrouble · Post by **barneytrouble** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:46 pm

Having just finished up the first 3 LR sections of Kaplan Mastery I have a question.. When "drilling" should you be taking as much time as you need to make sure you get 100% in a section, or taking them kind of fast? I do every question in under 2 minutes even if that means I have to make a 50/50 guess between 2 choices, but this has led to 90% accuracy over the first 3 sections. Is this the proper way to do the drilling stage or would you slow down and only worry about the timing when you are taking actual preptest sections? I know that Dave Hall says accuracy is the most important but I am worried about developing bad timing habits by taking the necessary time to get 100%.

ngogirl · Post by **ngogirl** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:50 pm

barneytrouble wrote:Having just finished up the first 3 LR sections of Kaplan Mastery I have a question.. When "drilling" should you be taking as much time as you need to make sure you get 100% in a section, or taking them kind of fast? I do every question in under 2 minutes even if that means I have to make a 50/50 guess between 2 choices, but this has led to 90% accuracy over the first 3 sections. Is this the proper way to do the drilling stage or would you slow down and only worry about the timing when you are taking actual preptest sections? I know that Dave Hall says accuracy is the most important but I am worried about developing bad timing habits by taking the necessary time to get 100%.

i think at first go for accuracy, once you find you are getting 95% to 100% correct then start timing..

tehrocstar · Post by **tehrocstar** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:56 pm

Hey thanks for coming guys...that was kind of exhausting, I'm really tired now. haha

I think we're all going to meet on Sundays instead, I think we were all throwing around 8pm?

rezkirill · Post by **rezkirill** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:59 pm

I have a problem with LG.
When I do the questions the first time I seem to not follow the diagramming
till the end I pick incorrect answers.
But, on the second time I usually get the question right.
This is a general problem and not limited to a specific game type.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Manhattan LSAT Noah · Post by **Manhattan LSAT Noah** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:11 pm

rezkirill wrote:When I do the questions the first time I seem to not follow the diagramming

What do you mean by this? That you don't make a useful diagram, or that you have one, but you don't use it, or something else?

barneytrouble · Post by **barneytrouble** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:04 pm

Taking 45 tomorrow if anyone wants to discuss/review a PT over the weekend.

aeiouy · Post by **aeiouy** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:32 pm

barneytrouble wrote:Taking 45 tomorrow if anyone wants to discuss/review a PT over the weekend.

I plan on taking a PT tomorrow, so I'll do 45 and hope our schedules coincide over the weekend to review?

xChiTowNx · Post by **xChiTowNx** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:33 pm

barneytrouble wrote:Having just finished up the first 3 LR sections of Kaplan Mastery I have a question.. When "drilling" should you be taking as much time as you need to make sure you get 100% in a section, or taking them kind of fast? I do every question in under 2 minutes even if that means I have to make a 50/50 guess between 2 choices, but this has led to 90% accuracy over the first 3 sections. Is this the proper way to do the drilling stage or would you slow down and only worry about the timing when you are taking actual preptest sections? I know that Dave Hall says accuracy is the most important but I am worried about developing bad timing habits by taking the necessary time to get 100%.

Is your kaplan mastery LR book the big thick one arranged by type or section? I usually go 10 at a time and pay attention to the explanations. I save the last set of each category of questions (so like last 8-10 of one star, two star, etc) so i have a challenge set so i can work on speed.

HTH

barneytrouble · Post by **barneytrouble** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:30 pm

xChiTowNx wrote: Is your kaplan mastery LR book the big thick one arranged by type or section? I usually go 10 at a time and pay attention to the explanations. I save the last set of each category of questions (so like last 8-10 of one star, two star, etc) so i have a challenge set so i can work on speed.

HTH

OK I like that idea. Gonna start it after I learn fucking formal logic. Those are the worst.

In related news work got canceled today so I had some free time and took PT 29, exactly 1 month after my first PT.

LR1: -3
RC: -5
LR2: -2
LG: -0

For a 91=172 scaled. For reference, a month ago I took PT 35 and went 79=163, so this is a great surprise.

Dami · Post by **Dami** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:24 am

barneytrouble wrote:
xChiTowNx wrote: Is your kaplan mastery LR book the big thick one arranged by type or section? I usually go 10 at a time and pay attention to the explanations. I save the last set of each category of questions (so like last 8-10 of one star, two star, etc) so i have a challenge set so i can work on speed.

HTH
OK I like that idea. Gonna start it after I learn fucking formal logic. Those are the worst.

In related news work got canceled today so I had some free time and took PT 29, exactly 1 month after my first PT.

LR1: -3
RC: -5
LR2: -2
LG: -0

That is a legit score. And with only a month of studying, it is even more impressive!

Keep it up!

For a 91=172 scaled. For reference, a month ago I took PT 35 and went 79=163, so this is a great surprise.

lhess218 · Post by **lhess218** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:16 am

Since we seem to be moving the sessions to Sunday, can someone take mine for week 4? I'm going to be cutting it close, and I don't want to bail on everyone last minute.

naillsat · Post by **naillsat** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:57 am

how to join the study group ?

rezkirill · Post by **rezkirill** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:26 am

It means I don't complete the diagram for each answer choice.

I just make a rough sketch for each choice and try to eliminate it.
On my first untimed game practice chapter I got 58% right.
After I went to each question I got wrong and redid it, without looking at the answers, I got it right the first time.

tehrocstar · Post by **tehrocstar** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:57 am

naillsat wrote:how to join the study group ?

PM "Manhattan LSAT Noah" with your email address, and he'll send you an email.

Manhattan LSAT Noah · Post by **Manhattan LSAT Noah** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:00 pm

Decemberites - when you decide on your Sunday start time, please have someone e-mail me (not PM, I don't check TLS on the weekends - all addictions must be kept in check) an I'll get the slides loaded up for y'all - and whoever is leading, I can send them a mod link.

The themes for session 4 are:

1. RC: The Reading Process (PEAR)
2. LG: Advanced Ordering
3. LR: Identify a Flaw Questions

And, here's my favorite song today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu3gGMGMSNw

If you get sick of studying for the LSAT, try memorizing those lyrics...

barneytrouble · Post by **barneytrouble** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:35 pm

PT 45
LR1 (30 mins): -5
LR2 (29 mins): -4
LG (28 mins): -0
RC (32 mins): -7

For 83=167. Haven't looked over my LR misses yet but can already tell it is going to be blech, wasn't feeling in the zone. On the positive side, my timing for each section was going great and I just stopped at the end rather than going back over my answers and doublechecking, a bad habit for sure but one that I will worry about fixing when I am not so tired. RC obviously still awful.

ngogirl · Post by **ngogirl** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:21 pm

Hey guys!

We're supposed to do PT 53 this week. When did you all want to review it?

barneytrouble · Post by **barneytrouble** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:03 am

Wow 34 minutes to do PT 40s LG today, still -0 but damn. Game 3 was absurd, wtf is the classification on that?? "Hybrid" ?

ngogirl · Post by **ngogirl** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:35 pm

Hey guys,

We're supposed to do PT 53 this week. Does Thursday work for ppl to review this test?

Dami · Post by **Dami** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:38 pm

is the study session still Sunday (tonight) at 8?

SA1928 · Post by **SA1928** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:18 pm

Dami wrote:is the study session still Sunday (tonight) at 8?

I got wrapped up a bit, and I think I missed the session. Just tried logging in to see if anyone was in there...did it happen?

Also, interested in reviewing a test (anything before 53 + A/B/C/June 2007) if anyone needs to someone to review with one day!

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