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Post by Barack O'Drama » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:30 am

Dodocogon wrote:Checking in from June... I'm ready to take this test head on, and have pretty much only gone through the trainer and 10 or so PT's - I wasn't really exposed to the blind review process (I did a rough form of it just on my own) but that'll be my primary focus for the next few months. The only section I need to drill a lot is LG; I had a -10 on this test there - feelsbadman. I had a 159 (from a PT avg of 163 but rising) and will be excited to get that into the high 160's as I get better at LG
Greetings Dodocogon!

You have a great attitude and that will carry you a long way. I know it must suck getting back a lower-than-anticiaped score, but you know you got this, so don't even sweat it. Drill LGs some more and even if you can get them down to a consistent -5 you will easily be in the low 160s. Down to -0 and you're basically in the high 160s. And know that you'll be utilizing blind review, I am confident you will start to see some really incredible results.
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Post by Dodocogon » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:35 am

Barack O'Drama wrote:
Dodocogon wrote:Checking in from June... I'm ready to take this test head on, and have pretty much only gone through the trainer and 10 or so PT's - I wasn't really exposed to the blind review process (I did a rough form of it just on my own) but that'll be my primary focus for the next few months. The only section I need to drill a lot is LG; I had a -10 on this test there - feelsbadman. I had a 159 (from a PT avg of 163 but rising) and will be excited to get that into the high 160's as I get better at LG
Greetings Dodocogon!

You have a great attitude and that will carry you a long way. I know it must suck getting back a lower-than-anticiaped score, but you know you got this, so don't even sweat it. Drill LGs some more and even if you can get them down to a consistent -5 you will easily be in the low 160s. Down to -0 and you're basically in the high 160s. And know that you'll be utilizing blind review, I am confident you will start to see some really incredible results.
Yeah, I feel like a have a good grasp of most of the concepts and am actually pretty good with LR and RC - LG will just be my nemesis for the next few months and I've accepted that! I just didn't give myself enough time to sufficiently PT and iron out all the kinks. Once I've had the chance to do that, I'm pretty confident I can perform well.

Having a 3-week break from the test was pretty nice though; gonna miss it!

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Post by 20170322 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:48 am

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SweetTort wrote:New resolution:

I'm going to start taking 6 section PT's from now until the actual test. Going to take them at 9:30, after a warmup section. I will NOT let myself be lulled into a false sense of security by inaccurate testing conditions.
SweetTort, as always, I have to say, you inspire the hell out of me. When I get to fun PTs In was considering adding in an extra section eventually for extra endurance training. Plus it is always good practice!

SweetTort wrote:Just got my ass handed to me by a simple in-out game. Gotta stay grindin'.
You and me both on those damn grouping games. I am going to be drilling them all day and trying to see which diagramming method for them to use. I don't like Powerscore, so I guess it is between MLSAT's logic chain or 7Sage's more stripped down approach.

I've really started thinking of the LSAT as my enemy and I have to beat it! This is literally the only thing standing in our way from every school we want... One test, and our lives could change forever. Whatever it takes, we got this!
Yeah, one big mental hurdle for me was ending sub-perfect score goals. Like, my goal before June was a 170. Then it was a 172. Then a 175. Now, after getting the 179, I'm not settling for less than a 180. It is infinitely easier to do well on this test than to do well in law school, and I'm not going to shortchange myself.

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Post by Barack O'Drama » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:12 am

SweetTort wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
SweetTort wrote:New resolution:

I'm going to start taking 6 section PT's from now until the actual test. Going to take them at 9:30, after a warmup section. I will NOT let myself be lulled into a false sense of security by inaccurate testing conditions.
SweetTort, as always, I have to say, you inspire the hell out of me. When I get to fun PTs In was considering adding in an extra section eventually for extra endurance training. Plus it is always good practice!

SweetTort wrote:Just got my ass handed to me by a simple in-out game. Gotta stay grindin'.
You and me both on those damn grouping games. I am going to be drilling them all day and trying to see which diagramming method for them to use. I don't like Powerscore, so I guess it is between MLSAT's logic chain or 7Sage's more stripped down approach.

I've really started thinking of the LSAT as my enemy and I have to beat it! This is literally the only thing standing in our way from every school we want... One test, and our lives could change forever. Whatever it takes, we got this!
Yeah, one big mental hurdle for me was ending sub-perfect score goals. Like, my goal before June was a 170. Then it was a 172. Then a 175. Now, after getting the 179, I'm not settling for less than a 180. It is infinitely easier to do well on this test than to do well in law school, and I'm not going to shortchange myself.



Such a great, great point. Your goals have been going up and you've hit almost every single one. Your hard work and dedication to doing well on the LSAT is really coming to fruition. And we got nearly 3 months to go! I think once you hit the 180 you will feel vindicated. : :lol:
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Post by BigBear » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:37 am

Checking in from the June 2016 LSAT with a score of 160. Pretty much just utilized the trainer and didn't do so hot on logic games because of it. Test day jitters, burnout, and a poor testing center contributed to a score much lower than my goal. Excuses aside, I could have prepared much more rigorously and that's on me.

Taking a powerscore class starting the second day in August that goes right up until test day. Do you guys think I should do anything studying in the mean time? Shooting for a low 170s score. Looking forward to working my ass off over the next few months.

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Post by Alexandros » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:41 am

Noticing my performance is significantly worse and much, much slower in the mornings - particularly on RC (wowyikes) but all sections. Took about 10 min to do a simple linear game which would've taken about 4 min if I'd just split the game and made a couple inferences at the beginning and took 9+ minutes for a single passage this morning.

This is a problem. Going to be doing some major, major early morning drilling before work (with and without coffee.)

Note to self - General guidelines for RC:
- Don't exceed 3 min in the reading process by anything more than a few seconds.
- 7 min / passage, unless it's got 7+ questions (even then, not much more than 8 min)

That way I avoid the sensation of running out of time on the last passage (which results in a panicked mindset and thus poor reading, in addition to the limited time ) and can go back and thoroughly confirm tricky qs with the text, which is extremely beneficial.

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Post by 20170322 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:41 am

Barack O'Drama wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
SweetTort wrote:New resolution:

I'm going to start taking 6 section PT's from now until the actual test. Going to take them at 9:30, after a warmup section. I will NOT let myself be lulled into a false sense of security by inaccurate testing conditions.
SweetTort, as always, I have to say, you inspire the hell out of me. When I get to fun PTs In was considering adding in an extra section eventually for extra endurance training. Plus it is always good practice!

SweetTort wrote:Just got my ass handed to me by a simple in-out game. Gotta stay grindin'.
You and me both on those damn grouping games. I am going to be drilling them all day and trying to see which diagramming method for them to use. I don't like Powerscore, so I guess it is between MLSAT's logic chain or 7Sage's more stripped down approach.

I've really started thinking of the LSAT as my enemy and I have to beat it! This is literally the only thing standing in our way from every school we want... One test, and our lives could change forever. Whatever it takes, we got this!
Yeah, one big mental hurdle for me was ending sub-perfect score goals. Like, my goal before June was a 170. Then it was a 172. Then a 175. Now, after getting the 179, I'm not settling for less than a 180. It is infinitely easier to do well on this test than to do well in law school, and I'm not going to shortchange myself.



Such a great, great point. Your goals have been going up and you've hit almost every single one. Your hard work and dedication to doing well on the LSAT is really coming to fruition. And we got nearly 3 months to go! I think once you hit the 180 you will feel vindicated. : :lol:

Haha, I'll have to buy you a beer if we end up at the same law school.

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Post by Alexandros » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:46 am

Reiterating what others have said but - to the June peeps coming in or already on this thread - Y'all rock and are strong and inspiring af. MAJOR PROPS. You'll kill it in September!!

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Post by PhiladelphiaCollins » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:47 am

BirdLawExpert wrote:Howdy, y'all, just dropping in to say good luck. It's sad to see so many familiar faces in this thread, but if you're in this thread mere hours after getting your scores back, you've got the right attitude and I know you'll do well.

I just typed this up and posted it in the June Waiters Thread, but I realized it would probably do more good here. Someone in that thread had asked how to get over their test-day issues without "meditation or any of that Eastern mumbo jumbo", but I've worked with a lot of people that have issues with testing and meditation is a phenomenal tool. Here's a short guide, free of flowery spiritual language, about how and why you should be meditating if you had issues with performing on test day.

Speaking as someone who has worked a lot with students that get psyched out by tests, meditation isn't "Eastern mumbo jumbo", and it is typically the most effective tool for every student I've work with. Here's a short guide, free of any mumbo jumbo, to give you an idea of what I mean by meditation.

Ground Rules:
Don't meditate in the morning after just waking up. Meditate at a "busy" point in your day where you're actively solving problems.
Don't have your phone with you or within earshot. You need to be isolated as much as you can.
Don't meditate in the same room that you study in. Find a "neutral" location or a place in your house/apartment that you don't use very much. This seems counterintuitive but it's actually kind of important
Don't cut your time short if you're busy. That cheats you and kind of defeats the entire point of meditation. Make time for this.

Now that you've got your ground rules, here's what you're going to do. Grab that watch you use for timing sections on the test and set it to five minutes. Go sit on the floor in a neutral location facing an empty wall, and stare at that wall for five minutes. Do your best to think about nothing. Don't make plans, don't solve problems, don't think about what you're doing next, and don't think about existential nonsense or anything like that. Just sit there and stare at the wall and do your absolute best to avoid thinking of anything in particular. If you're like me, for the entire first week you do this you're going to be thinking "this is stupid, this is so stupid". That's fine. You'll get over it. Sit there for five minutes, not a second more or less. Do that for two weeks, which should be about how long it takes for you to get over the fact that you're sitting in a corner staring at a wall. Also, don't close your eyes, because hopefully you don't take tests with your eyes closed. If you do, we just solved your problem and you don't need to meditate.

After two weeks, you're going to sit there for fifteen minutes. You're going to feel like you're wasting even more of your time on this nonsense, but just do it. Don't think about your breathing or heart rate or anything like that. Just sit there for fifteen minutes and actively tell your brain to stop solving problems. If you have a train of thought, actively think about something else. Do this every day for not a second more or less than fifteen minutes. You're not going to succeed at first, you might not get anywhere close to succeeding, but keep doing it anyway. The entire point of this is to gain the ability to actively tell your brain to stop its surface-level problem solving processes for however long you may need it to. If you're getting through fifteen minutes pretty easily, then try thirty. If you're getting through thirty easily, you're probably good.

This isn't about becoming one with yourself or anything, this is about re-calibrating a mechanical issue in your thought process. The fundamental problem of most people who have issues with test taking is that when they sit down to test, they cannot control the pace at which they think. Thoughts fly in and out more quickly than normal, or not at all, and instead of taking a deep breath and being able to normalize their thought process like many people can, they have to take the test with their mind running at a thousand miles per hour or crawling at a snail's pace. That's just too mentally exhausting to deal with over a long test like the LSAT. By sitting down and forcing yourself to stop solving problems at a time when your mind is running at a high speed, you're essentially practicing that "calming" sensation that most test-takers have some innate knowledge of; you're crafting an on/off switch in your mind for problem solving. Meditation isn't good because it helps you find yourself, it's good because it's essentially the drilling equivalent of mentally preparing yourself to take a test.
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Post by ponderingmeerkat » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:58 am

Hello new friends! Joining all of you from the June thread.

Got a 167. Not devastated or anything but about 4 points below my mean, and I know I've got a 173+ in me somewhere. Big difference was games...ended up going -5 despite being a solid -0/-1 prep tester. On some level this is disappointing because the games section of this test was fairly easy. But, I'm hoping this is a somewhat manageable fix.

Glad to start contributing in here. Looking forward to this journey. Cheers! 8)

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Post by Barack O'Drama » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:58 am

SweetTort wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
SweetTort wrote:New resolution:

I'm going to start taking 6 section PT's from now until the actual test. Going to take them at 9:30, after a warmup section. I will NOT let myself be lulled into a false sense of security by inaccurate testing conditions.
SweetTort, as always, I have to say, you inspire the hell out of me. When I get to fun PTs In was considering adding in an extra section eventually for extra endurance training. Plus it is always good practice!

SweetTort wrote:Just got my ass handed to me by a simple in-out game. Gotta stay grindin'.
You and me both on those damn grouping games. I am going to be drilling them all day and trying to see which diagramming method for them to use. I don't like Powerscore, so I guess it is between MLSAT's logic chain or 7Sage's more stripped down approach.

I've really started thinking of the LSAT as my enemy and I have to beat it! This is literally the only thing standing in our way from every school we want... One test, and our lives could change forever. Whatever it takes, we got this!
Yeah, one big mental hurdle for me was ending sub-perfect score goals. Like, my goal before June was a 170. Then it was a 172. Then a 175. Now, after getting the 179, I'm not settling for less than a 180. It is infinitely easier to do well on this test than to do well in law school, and I'm not going to shortchange myself.



Such a great, great point. Your goals have been going up and you've hit almost every single one. Your hard work and dedication to doing well on the LSAT is really coming to fruition. And we got nearly 3 months to go! I think once you hit the 180 you will feel vindicated. : :lol:

Haha, I'll have to buy you a beer if we end up at the same law school.
:wink: We will certainly be applying to the same ones, so you never know!
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Post by ponderingmeerkat » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:00 pm

TheMikey wrote:
Mr. Meeseeks wrote:
carasrook wrote:
Nice to see some familiar faces around here! I mean...I wish all of us had outperformed and were "one and done" but still.

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Post by Barack O'Drama » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:03 pm

ponderingmeerkat wrote:Hello new friends! Joining all of you from the June thread.

Got a 167. Not devastated or anything but about 4 points below my mean, and I know I've got a 173+ in me somewhere. Big difference was games...ended up going -5 despite being a solid -0/-1 prep tester. On some level this is disappointing because the games section of this test was fairly easy. But, I'm hoping this is a somewhat manageable fix.

Glad to start contributing in here. Looking forward to this journey. Cheers! 8)

Bonjour Meerkat!

Glad to see ya in here and confident you do indeed have that 173+ in you. And I know that because you know that... We are going to get through this miserable test together...I think a lot of first-time takers let the nerves get the best of them. I am probably going to be hyperventilating... Hopefully some of the previously mentioned meditation and ample prep will help mitigate any test-day jitters.

So begins our journey to 173+ (I also have a 173+ in mind as a goal!)
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Post by BirdLawExpert » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:06 pm

PhiladelphiaCollins wrote:
BirdLawExpert wrote:Howdy, y'all...meditation isn't good because it helps you find yourself, it's good because it's essentially the drilling equivalent of mentally preparing yourself to take a test.
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I don't know what this means, but thanks?

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Post by 20170322 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:09 pm

Man, this RC drilling is frying my brain. I think I may go play basketball to recover, then get back to it.

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Post by PhiladelphiaCollins » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:09 pm

BirdLawExpert wrote:
PhiladelphiaCollins wrote:
BirdLawExpert wrote:Howdy, y'all...meditation isn't good because it helps you find yourself, it's good because it's essentially the drilling equivalent of mentally preparing yourself to take a test.
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I don't know what this means, but thanks?
Hahaha sorry, I thought your name was a reference to It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia!!

The guide looks really solid though, thanks for that, I've been trying to find ways to re-calibrate myself on the rest especially since timing is such an issue.

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Post by BirdLawExpert » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:11 pm

PhiladelphiaCollins wrote:
BirdLawExpert wrote:
PhiladelphiaCollins wrote:
BirdLawExpert wrote:Howdy, y'all...meditation isn't good because it helps you find yourself, it's good because it's essentially the drilling equivalent of mentally preparing yourself to take a test.
You must have massive hands
I don't know what this means, but thanks?
Hahaha sorry, I thought your name was a reference to It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia!!

The guide looks really solid though, thanks for that, I've been trying to find ways to re-calibrate myself on the rest especially since timing is such an issue.
Oh yeah, I'm an idiot haha. No worries! Like I said I've been working with students for a long time on test-taking strategies.

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Post by 2000andBeyond » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:11 pm

Checking in from the June LSAT thread. Received my score of 161, despite having an average of about 165 on previous PTs. Games are usually my best section, but first section jitters led me to a big -8 on the section. I was upset yesterday, but I decided to not shoot for anything less than a 180 going forward. I realize that it is highly improbable, but it's like the saying goes...

"People fail in life not because they aim too high and miss, but because they aim too low and hit."

I am reaching for the moon these next couple of months and hopefully that will get me my score of at least 170. I look forward to chatting with everyone in here and good luck to all!!!!
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Post by Alexandros » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:25 pm

EinassA wrote:Checking in from the June LSAT thread. Received my score of 161, despite having an average of about 165 on previous PTs. Games are usually my best section, but first section jitters led me to a big -8 on the section. I was upset yesterday, but I decided to not shoot for anything less than a 180 going forward. I realize that it is highly improbable, but it's like the saying goes...

"People fail in life not because they aim too high and miss, but because they aim to low and hit."

I am reaching for the moon these next couple of months and hopefully that will get me my score of at least 170. I look forward to chatting with everyone in here and good luck to all!!!!
Welcome!!

That's a fantastic quote and so, so true. LET'S GET THAT 180.

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Post by Alexandros » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:46 pm

Going to be doing the bulk of my lsat studying in the mornings before work from now on. I know I can pretty much go -1/0 on each section in ideal conditions. Now just need to remove "ideal conditions" from that equation.

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Post by hip to be Square » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:47 pm

I guess you could say I'm heading over here from the June thread, but I'm a relatively new TLSer, so I'm excited to start getting involved! Just got a 162 yesterday, decided to retake September.

My PT average was 164 and I know I have a high 160's in me somewhere. I had a personal fluke on RC on test day (usually my best section, the Reader's Digest version is that I didn't fill 4 bubbles :roll: ) so I know I can at least make that up, and hopefully gain some ground on games.

Anybody have any suggestions on how to get into the swing of studying things again? I'm gonna start re-reading my bibles but I'm not sure where to go from there in terms of materials.. All my preptests are pretty much exhausted.

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Post by CoGar » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:07 pm

I have never been a strong reader and RC is definitely my weakest link right now. Yet when I go through LSAT Hacks analysis of passages everything seems so clear. Guess i need to focus on breaking down passages better before jumping into the questions... Any advise for this, should i approach each paragraph individually from a perspective of finding a conclusion of a paragraph that ties into the main conclusions??

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CoGar wrote:I have never been a strong reader and RC is definitely my weakest link right now. Yet when I go through LSAT Hacks analysis of passages everything seems so clear. Guess i need to focus on breaking down passages better before jumping into the questions... Any advise for this, should i approach each paragraph individually from a perspective of finding a conclusion of a paragraph that ties into the main conclusions??

Thanks so much for the help party people
I'm just starting RC, but I'm applying the same standard that I have been using for LR. Understand why every answer is wrong and understand why every answer is right. Understanding wrong answers [when you are early in prep] is as important as understanding right ones. From my limited RC prep, it seems like this will be important, especially given the prevalence of sucker choices on RC.

RC is formulaic, but I'd be hesitant to approach them with a super strict framework. You do need to understand how each paragraph relates to the other points, and it could vary. It could be evidence. It could be a counterexample that is later attacked. It could be background information. I would limit it to the following. You should have some idea of the purpose of each paragraph in how it relates to the overall passage.

Edit: Not sure if I've been here from the beginning [prob not], but I've been here since before the June test... so I'll say that.

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Post by legallyadog » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:41 pm

CoGar wrote:I have never been a strong reader and RC is definitely my weakest link right now. Yet when I go through LSAT Hacks analysis of passages everything seems so clear. Guess i need to focus on breaking down passages better before jumping into the questions... Any advise for this, should i approach each paragraph individually from a perspective of finding a conclusion of a paragraph that ties into the main conclusions??

Thanks so much for the help party people
This is gonna sound strange but I read through passages in the author's "voice" so I literally think the words I'm reading how I feel the author would speak the passage. It establish tone which makes it easier to understand the flow from paragraph to paragraph. Or I may just be crazy. Also, underlining tonal shifts (but, however) is helpful.

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Checking in here. Probably not a big deal to most people in this forum, but I just got my first -0 on a sequencing game. Pretty pumped about that.

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