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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by pianoman4 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:37 pm

how many practice tests is everyone planning on taking? I counted back from June 8th and saw that I'll probably take 36.
That doesn't include using some for drilling.

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Post by kang » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:35 pm

RZ5646 wrote:
kang wrote:checking in. Took the Feb. test and most likely going to retake...

Contemplating on whether or not I should retake June or October... What's everyone here scoring?
My last completely fresh PT was a 174 but I think I got kinda lucky. I'm probably in the 168-172 range... haven't PTed in awhile so idk.
That's not bad! Did you write the test in Feb?

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by kang » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:37 pm

Dirigo wrote:
kang wrote:checking in. Took the Feb. test and most likely going to retake...
Contemplating on whether or not I should retake June or October... What's everyone here scoring?
I'm a retaker too.
Plan for June and have October as a backup.
The idea of retaking sucks. Hate the idea of having to study for this test again :cry:

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:40 pm

kang wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
kang wrote:checking in. Took the Feb. test and most likely going to retake...
Contemplating on whether or not I should retake June or October... What's everyone here scoring?
I'm a retaker too.
Plan for June and have October as a backup.
The idea of retaking sucks. Hate the idea of having to study for this test again :cry:
Take comfort in the fact you're not starting from scratch.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by RZ5646 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:19 pm

kang wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:
kang wrote:checking in. Took the Feb. test and most likely going to retake...

Contemplating on whether or not I should retake June or October... What's everyone here scoring?
My last completely fresh PT was a 174 but I think I got kinda lucky. I'm probably in the 168-172 range... haven't PTed in awhile so idk.
That's not bad! Did you write the test in Feb?
Nah this is my first time. And I may actually push back to October... I'm really struggling to find the motivation to study.

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Post by NonTradLawHopeful » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:46 pm

pianoman4 wrote:how many practice tests is everyone planning on taking? I counted back from June 8th and saw that I'll probably take 36.
That doesn't include using some for drilling.
Full timed practice tests, about 25.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by RZ5646 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:07 am

I'm going to take as many PTs as I can, but that number is dwindling as I procrastinate

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Post by sarahfatima28 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:27 am

Atleast 25-30 timed tests.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Smallville » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:40 pm

zacboro wrote:
pianoman4 wrote:how many practice tests is everyone planning on taking? I counted back from June 8th and saw that I'll probably take 36.
That doesn't include using some for drilling.
TCR is as many as needed to get to the desired scoring range of the writer.
why do so many people use this wording? "I'm writing the LSAT in..." 1/6 of the test is writing along with the small statement you need to write, everything else is bubbling

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:46 pm

Smallville wrote:
zacboro wrote:
pianoman4 wrote:how many practice tests is everyone planning on taking? I counted back from June 8th and saw that I'll probably take 36.
That doesn't include using some for drilling.
TCR is as many as needed to get to the desired scoring range of the writer.
why do so many people use this wording? "I'm writing the LSAT in..." 1/6 of the test is writing along with the small statement you need to write, everything else is bubbling
Probably old school phrasing that has been passed down. Zac making it a noun though is unique.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by justabitunusual » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:00 pm

Dirigo wrote:
Smallville wrote:
zacboro wrote:
pianoman4 wrote:how many practice tests is everyone planning on taking? I counted back from June 8th and saw that I'll probably take 36.
That doesn't include using some for drilling.
TCR is as many as needed to get to the desired scoring range of the writer.
why do so many people use this wording? "I'm writing the LSAT in..." 1/6 of the test is writing along with the small statement you need to write, everything else is bubbling
Probably old school phrasing that has been passed down. Zac making it a noun though is unique.
I'm pretty sure ppl in the UK write tests while those in the US take them, and then other ppl picked up on it

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Buckeye Gus » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:43 pm

I hate my job so much that I'm actually looking forward to the idea of studying again to retake in June.

Teenagers are one of the worst types of people. Easily.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by biglaworfedclerk » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:50 pm

Hey all,

I was here before briefly, but this is the real "checking in". Retaking a "sort of low" 160. Hoping for 170+.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by RZ5646 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:15 pm

"Writing" is a British term that pops up occasionally in LSAT discussions because Canadians also use it.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by The Abyss » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:50 am

Drilling flaw and parallel flaw questions today along with in/out games. Tomorrow I PT!

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by jetsfan1 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:11 am

The Abyss wrote:Drilling flaw and parallel flaw questions today along with in/out games. Tomorrow I PT!
Good luck :D

Just finished up today's "PT" (putting it in quotes because it was only 4 sections with no answer sheet and in pen. Did do it straight through with no break after the third section if that helps at all). Was a PR since I started, so feeling pretty good about that, but a lot of my misses were on freaking obvious questions. Very frustrating. Still not where I wanna be by June though, so back to the drawing board tomorrow.

Question though... Consistently like half of my errors are on Qs I didn't circle to go back and BR. They are easy Qs that I just misread/misinterpret. Any strategy to deal with this besides just being more careful/drilling more and taking more PTs?

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Post by msp8 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:38 am

I still have that problem, jetsfan1.

So I've built a calendar for studying now. Today I'm doing some thorough BRs on ~6 sections that I haven't done a sufficient job BRing on, and skimming the LGB. This LSAT stage is the boring part of going back to ensuring I have my fundamentals down, so re-reading/skimming through MH/PS books. I'll also order the Trainer today.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by The Abyss » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:51 am

jetsfan1 wrote:
The Abyss wrote:Drilling flaw and parallel flaw questions today along with in/out games. Tomorrow I PT!
Good luck :D

Just finished up today's "PT" (putting it in quotes because it was only 4 sections with no answer sheet and in pen. Did do it straight through with no break after the third section if that helps at all). Was a PR since I started, so feeling pretty good about that, but a lot of my misses were on freaking obvious questions. Very frustrating. Still not where I wanna be by June though, so back to the drawing board tomorrow.

Question though... Consistently like half of my errors are on Qs I didn't circle to go back and BR. They are easy Qs that I just misread/misinterpret. Any strategy to deal with this besides just being more careful/drilling more and taking more PTs?
I'm just very liberal with my circling. If I have any doubt whatsoever, I circle it and come back to it during BR. BR is a painstakingly long process, but a necessary one.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by jetsfan1 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:58 am

The Abyss wrote:
jetsfan1 wrote:
The Abyss wrote:Drilling flaw and parallel flaw questions today along with in/out games. Tomorrow I PT!
Good luck :D

Just finished up today's "PT" (putting it in quotes because it was only 4 sections with no answer sheet and in pen. Did do it straight through with no break after the third section if that helps at all). Was a PR since I started, so feeling pretty good about that, but a lot of my misses were on freaking obvious questions. Very frustrating. Still not where I wanna be by June though, so back to the drawing board tomorrow.

Question though... Consistently like half of my errors are on Qs I didn't circle to go back and BR. They are easy Qs that I just misread/misinterpret. Any strategy to deal with this besides just being more careful/drilling more and taking more PTs?
I'm just very liberal with my circling. If I have any doubt whatsoever, I circle it and come back to it during BR. BR is a painstakingly long process, but a necessary one.
Trust me, I am too. I'll just misread something and the answer seems so obvious because of the misread, so I don't circle it. Whatever, gonna focus on the PR for now, get back to basics tomorrow.

ETA: Also, RZ, did LR reading the question stem first rather then the argument. Felt a little weird/unnatural tbh but after doing a full PT with it can definitely see the advantage and I'm gonna stick with it. You read the arguments in a completely different way when you know what your looking for.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by The Abyss » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:14 am

jetsfan1 wrote:
The Abyss wrote:
jetsfan1 wrote:
The Abyss wrote:Drilling flaw and parallel flaw questions today along with in/out games. Tomorrow I PT!
Good luck :D

Just finished up today's "PT" (putting it in quotes because it was only 4 sections with no answer sheet and in pen. Did do it straight through with no break after the third section if that helps at all). Was a PR since I started, so feeling pretty good about that, but a lot of my misses were on freaking obvious questions. Very frustrating. Still not where I wanna be by June though, so back to the drawing board tomorrow.

Question though... Consistently like half of my errors are on Qs I didn't circle to go back and BR. They are easy Qs that I just misread/misinterpret. Any strategy to deal with this besides just being more careful/drilling more and taking more PTs?
I'm just very liberal with my circling. If I have any doubt whatsoever, I circle it and come back to it during BR. BR is a painstakingly long process, but a necessary one.
Trust me, I am too. I'll just misread something and the answer seems so obvious because of the misread, so I don't circle it. Whatever, gonna focus on the PR for now, get back to basics tomorrow.
I think just more careful, untimed drilling is the answer to this with an eye towards understanding, interpreting, and reading correctly the stim and ACs. Eventually it will all come together (and if it hasn't by June, scrap June and take in October).

To use a sports analogy, the game just has to slow down in your head and that comes through lots and lots of drilling/practice. It's like the freshman QB who misses the obvious Mike in a middle zone on a throw to the middle and it gets picked. It's very obvious, but with everything happening (time constraints, distractions, nerves, etc) you just miss it. Lots of practice should eliminate that.

ETA: I have the same problem, and it does feel like a punch to the soul dong when you realize you missed a question on a stupid mistake.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by jetsfan1 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:18 am

Gotta find the Mike haha great analogy. Especially if he's dropping into a Tampa 2. We'll get there though :) Just gotta keep drilling away!

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Post by NonTradLawHopeful » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:02 pm

jetsfan1 wrote:
The Abyss wrote:Drilling flaw and parallel flaw questions today along with in/out games. Tomorrow I PT!
Question though... Consistently like half of my errors are on Qs I didn't circle to go back and BR. They are easy Qs that I just misread/misinterpret. Any strategy to deal with this besides just being more careful/drilling more and taking more PTs?
I BR every single question. It is painfully long but prevents missing obviously simple mistakes the second time through.

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