The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

[mist4bison]

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[nlee10]

So what is the best way to improve on logical reasoning? I've been going through the powerscore bible but they seem to make everything really complex (I enjoyed the logic games book, but logical reasoning is meh). WOuld I be better off just muscling through it then going on to the lsat trainer or abandoning ship right now?

I got absolutely nothing from the PS LRB. I mean I improved zero points and didn't feel like I had a grasp of the question types at all. I liked Manhattan and the Trainer for LR. I would just say screw the LR bible and move onto the trainer if that's what you have.

I actually really liked their LGb, too. I wonder how they got that so on point but screwed up LR so badly.

My experience exactly.

[Webpolice]

So what is the best way to improve on logical reasoning? I've been going through the powerscore bible but they seem to make everything really complex (I enjoyed the logic games book, but logical reasoning is meh). WOuld I be better off just muscling through it then going on to the lsat trainer or abandoning ship right now?

I got absolutely nothing from the PS LRB. I mean I improved zero points and didn't feel like I had a grasp of the question types at all. I liked Manhattan and the Trainer for LR. I would just say screw the LR bible and move onto the trainer if that's what you have.

I actually really liked their LGb, too. I wonder how they got that so on point but screwed up LR so badly.

Really? I spent my past two week on reading the LRB......

[Smallville]

So what is the best way to improve on logical reasoning? I've been going through the powerscore bible but they seem to make everything really complex (I enjoyed the logic games book, but logical reasoning is meh). WOuld I be better off just muscling through it then going on to the lsat trainer or abandoning ship right now?

I got absolutely nothing from the PS LRB. I mean I improved zero points and didn't feel like I had a grasp of the question types at all. I liked Manhattan and the Trainer for LR. I would just say screw the LR bible and move onto the trainer if that's what you have.

I actually really liked their LGb, too. I wonder how they got that so on point but screwed up LR so badly.

Really? I spent my past two week on reading the LRB......

every1 is different, and what works(or doesnt) for someone may or may not work for others

[mds6d]

Checking in for a retake. Anyone doing an in-person prep course (Testmasters, BP, Manhattan, etc.) as a "primer" before jumping into drilling? Hoping this class is worth the money...

[20170322]

Checking in for a retake. Anyone doing an in-person prep course (Testmasters, BP, Manhattan, etc.) as a "primer" before jumping into drilling? Hoping this class is worth the money...

Have you already paid for it?

[washingtonorbust]

Nah, I would never jump ship for law school. Just the LRB Thanks for the input, I'll go through it just a little more to see if it grows on me and if not I'll move to the LSAT trainer.

[nlee10]

Checking in for a retake. Anyone doing an in-person prep course (Testmasters, BP, Manhattan, etc.) as a "primer" before jumping into drilling? Hoping this class is worth the money...

Have you already paid for it?

I'm finishing up a BP live course this week. Feel free to ask me any questions from a paying customer/student perspective.

[20170322]

Digging through this LG Bible. OH MY GOSH THINGS MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENSE.

[UChicagoorBust]

I'm finishing up a BP live course this week. Feel free to ask me any questions from a paying customer/student perspective.

How is the BP course? Do you feel like you learned anything critical other than concepts/strategies that you find in most of the quality prep materials?

[RZ5646]

Classes seem like a waste of time/money. I know multiple seemingly intelligent people who are still in the 150s after completing expensive prep classes, and it seems like almost all 170+ people get those high scores from self-study.

[UChicagoorBust]

Classes seem like a waste of time/money. I know multiple seemingly intelligent people who are still in the 150s after completing expensive prep classes, and it seems like almost all 170+ people get those high scores from self-study.

My belief exactly. Almost all of the stories of 170+ I've heard are people who think they can do it themselves and do it right.

I realize this is an overgeneralization, but if you look on Blueprint's site, it's not like everyone is boasting "170". Prep courses are really just a way for instructors to teach you the basic skills that reading a prep book such as Manhattan LSAT, Powerscore, or the LSAT Trainer could teach you just the same, in a shorter amount of time.

This is my opinion of prep courses until I've seen some solid counter examples.

[20170322]

So, I'm doing these Logic Games, and while I understand them I typically miss 1 near the end simply due to a stupid mistake or misreading. Is this something that goes away as you drill?

[mist4bison]

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[RZ5646]

LSAT questions are often like boy toys

Best quote of the thread so far.

[20170322]

Is there any harm (other than 80 dollars) of registering for February, and then postponing if I'm not PTing in the 170's by mid-January?

[20170322]

Additionally, due to my inability to organize/keep track of things, I'm thinking about buying the print, bound Cambridge packets for 300 bucks. Any serious drawbacks other than not being able to print multiple copies of each game?

[nlee10]

I'm finishing up a BP live course this week. Feel free to ask me any questions from a paying customer/student perspective.

How is the BP course? Do you feel like you learned anything critical other than concepts/strategies that you find in most of the quality prep materials?

Not too much other than following a structured lesson plan with online hw (lots of it). I rarely work (part-time work for my family's investment business) so I thought a live course along with their vast hw would be a good structure to follow for 2 months. If I had to sum it all up, if you are able to attend 99% of the classes AND do the online hw, you will improve your score. I think BP and other reputable companies have the lessons and materials to get you to a consistent 160's+ given you do your part.

[RZ5646]

Additionally, due to my inability to organize/keep track of things, I'm thinking about buying the print, bound Cambridge packets for 300 bucks. Any serious drawbacks other than not being able to print multiple copies of each game?

Losing $300? I'd just learn better organizational skills for that much money.

[20170322]

Additionally, due to my inability to organize/keep track of things, I'm thinking about buying the print, bound Cambridge packets for 300 bucks. Any serious drawbacks other than not being able to print multiple copies of each game?

Losing $300? I'd just learn better organizational skills for that much money.

Well the downloadable cambridge packets are like 220.

[RZ5646]

Additionally, due to my inability to organize/keep track of things, I'm thinking about buying the print, bound Cambridge packets for 300 bucks. Any serious drawbacks other than not being able to print multiple copies of each game?

Losing $300? I'd just learn better organizational skills for that much money.

Well the downloadable cambridge packets are like 220.

I'd still just get a couple binders and stay organized in exchange for $80 and unlimited printing ability.

[20170322]

Additionally, due to my inability to organize/keep track of things, I'm thinking about buying the print, bound Cambridge packets for 300 bucks. Any serious drawbacks other than not being able to print multiple copies of each game?

Losing $300? I'd just learn better organizational skills for that much money.

Well the downloadable cambridge packets are like 220.

I'd still just get a couple binders and stay organized in exchange for $80 and unlimited printing ability.

Hmmm... I'll have to chew on this one.

[penncon]

Hmmm... I'll have to chew on this one.

From my experience, I think it would be more beneficial to buy the downloadable packet. Especially if you are going to do blind review and retake practice tests. I've had to unbound and scan to make copies of PTs, which was a pain in the butt.

[20170322]

Hmmm... I'll have to chew on this one.

From my experience, I think it would be more beneficial to buy the downloadable packet. Especially if you are going to do blind review and retake practice tests. I've had to unbound and scan to make copies of PTs, which was a pain in the butt.

That is true. I just need to find a systematic way of remembering which questions I've already drilled.

[mist4bison]

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