The Official December 2015 Study Group Forum

Phoenix97 · Post by **Phoenix97** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:01 pm

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a_parm · Post by **a_parm** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:57 pm

Found out I have about ~14 unused PT's...

Also, its my third and final try so no more having to worry about saving some for the next try.

a_parm · Post by **a_parm** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:58 pm

Also, post 100!!!!!

slizerd · Post by **slizerd** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:12 pm

a_parm wrote:Also, post 100!!!!!

Where are all the gifs you can now post?!

Redamon1 · Post by **Redamon1** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:26 pm

roshan07 wrote:
Phoenix97 wrote:
roshan07 wrote:I was taking 4 PTs a week up to the October test and am now taking 2 PTs a week, such a good move.
Why?

I was just thinking today that I might start going up to 5 or 6 a week.

Anyone have any advice for studying a lot while still managing to avoid burnout?
when you take too many PTs, your brain will be constantly saturated with the LSAT. it's analogous to working out, you don't want to workout too much and get no rest, otherwise you'll actually become weaker by not giving your muscles time to recover and rebuild, better and stronger. treat your brain like a muscle.

^ Just made a detour on this thread to wish everyone good luck. And in passing, I support this nugget of wisdom. I had to take the LSAT three times, and I eventually did much better when I combined hard work and measured studying. Pace yourself, take time off to absorb the material and clear your mind, and build up confidence. Similarly, clear your mind the day before the exam. I never ever follow this advice. I'm the kind of person to work till the last minute. But it seems I really needed the break for the LSAT. YOU'VE GOT THIS!!!

SirArthurDayne · Post by **SirArthurDayne** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:14 pm

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candidlatke · Post by **candidlatke** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:39 pm

dropping in from the october group, good luck guys!!!

you got this

flash21 · Post by **flash21** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:18 pm

pt 62 ( i believe it was ) had a nasty back to back logic games found in games 2-3. Reminded me of getting owned on Octobers logic games.

Phoenix97 · Post by **Phoenix97** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:20 pm

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GreekOmega12 · Post by **GreekOmega12** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:32 pm

What is the hardest LG ever administered?

biggestlawman · Post by **biggestlawman** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:46 pm

Just took June 2007 PT (first PT of the prep):

LG -3
LR -3 (1 Incorrect, 2 Missed)
EXPT
LR -2 (1 Incorrect, 1 Missed)
RC -5 (??)

I knew going in that I am not able to finish LR yet, working my way to it, but 166 (87/100) is disappointing. LG accuracy needs to go up, more speed in LR, and RC is the strange one as I usually get <3 wrong.

Not worried about LR speed, that will happen in a day or two.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:47 pm

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biggestlawman · Post by **biggestlawman** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:53 pm

gamerish wrote:Forgot to post my results for PT53.

Take 1: 166
EXP
LR1: -5 (I knew it went poorly as a I was going through it)
LG: -2 (VERY stupid reading errors)
LR2: -2
RC: -7 (one of my worst performances on RC ever, the first two passages took me 21 minutes)

BR: 179
LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -2
RC: -1

166 vs. 179

I don't know wtf happened to me. I guess I was rustier than I thought. Taking another on Wednesday instead of tomorrow. Doing a bunch of timed LR and RC sections until then.

Did you redo the whole thing in BR? I wonder if its a good use of time, or if it is enough to look at the mistakes.

flash21 · Post by **flash21** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:38 pm

gamerish wrote:Forgot to post my results for PT53.

Take 1: 166
EXP
LR1: -5 (I knew it went poorly as a I was going through it)
LG: -2 (VERY stupid reading errors)
LR2: -2
RC: -7 (one of my worst performances on RC ever, the first two passages took me 21 minutes)

BR: 179
LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -2
RC: -1

166 vs. 179

I don't know wtf happened to me. I guess I was rustier than I thought. Taking another on Wednesday instead of tomorrow. Doing a bunch of timed LR and RC sections until then.

which tests are fresh for you, assuming you've got fresh ones left?

Redamon1 · Post by **Redamon1** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:52 pm

Phoenix97 wrote:
Redamon1 wrote:
roshan07 wrote:
Phoenix97 wrote:
roshan07 wrote:I was taking 4 PTs a week up to the October test and am now taking 2 PTs a week, such a good move.
Why?

I was just thinking today that I might start going up to 5 or 6 a week.

Anyone have any advice for studying a lot while still managing to avoid burnout?
when you take too many PTs, your brain will be constantly saturated with the LSAT. it's analogous to working out, you don't want to workout too much and get no rest, otherwise you'll actually become weaker by not giving your muscles time to recover and rebuild, better and stronger. treat your brain like a muscle.
^ Just made a detour on this thread to wish everyone good luck. And in passing, I support this nugget of wisdom. I had to take the LSAT three times, and I eventually did much better when I combined hard work and measured studying. Pace yourself, take time off to absorb the material and clear your mind, and build up confidence. Similarly, clear your mind the day before the exam. I never ever follow this advice. I'm the kind of person to work till the last minute. But it seems I really needed the break for the LSAT. YOU'VE GOT THIS!!!
Thank you for the insight.

But what do you think is a good balance of hard work and measured studying?

Ultimately, find the right balance for you. If you feel burnt out, you're pushing too hard. For some people, that means 4-5 hours of studying a day, for others 6. Personally, I think 2-3 PT per week is plenty, but evidently some tutors are pushing for more, so I guess everyone has their own recipe. Do what works for you, but don't let stress push you too hard, or it will be counterproductive. Build confidence by reviewing answers you got wrong and retaking the exam / sections again. GL.

LazyPaladin · Post by **LazyPaladin** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:16 am

Took PT68 on Sat. Lowest score so far coming in a 166/171 BR

-7RC /-4BR
-4LR /-2 BR
-1LG (ew) / -0BR
-4LR2 /-4BR (second guessed myself on some questions I was actually right on)

Some of these questions I feel like, in the moment I'm picking the right response and moving on with confidence, or I'll read it a certain way and then after I BR my specific questions and come back to it, I'll be wrong, then find the right answer because, at least by my own reasoning, I didn't read it carefully. It's like...all the ones I get wrong I'm either 50/50 on answer choices or in the moment I feel like it's the right answer, but then afterwards I'm like, oh no way that can't be right. I don't feel pressured on time either, but I don't go back and check every single answer when I'm under timed conditions.

Thelaw23 · Post by **Thelaw23** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:26 am

Going from 176/178 down to 173 because of RC.

RC is kicking my ass starting the 50's.
Weird thing is I took some of the 60's test a month back and I did way better in RC than I do now. I thought I was good with RC until it stabbed me in the back

Phoenix97 · Post by **Phoenix97** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:37 am

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nerdylsat · Post by **nerdylsat** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:44 am

Whenever I'm drilling or reading a book on the LSAT, things usually click and I do pretty well, and I start feeling like I'm gonna ace my next PT.

Then I take another PT and some shit always happens and I screw up on one section and end up with in the same 160s and my confidence goes back down again.

I'm literally so over this damn test, the worst part is I get pissed off and end up not wanting to deal with it anymore.

Mint-Berry_Crunch · Post by **Mint-Berry_Crunch** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:52 am

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gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:27 am

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dellara · Post by **dellara** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:08 am

Hiiiiii

So I took my first prep test in like a month (spent last month doing focused drilling on LR and LG, saved RC for this month since its my weakest and I want it to be fresh in my brain come test day) I got a 174 on my last PT.

I took the exam at about 6pm so I won't be able to BR until tomorrow. I usually don't even score until after I BR but I was so curious. I don't know which ones I got wrong at least.

PT 54

LR: -1
RC: -8 (ouch)
EXP
LG: -4
LR: -1

Score: 166

sigh. Seems like the -1 I got on RC on my lsat PT was short lived glory. But I will crack it. Once I do, I'll be comfortable in the 170s and I'll be able to polish my LR so that I'm not missing more than 1-2 per section to be in the mid 170s. I'm pretty determined! Let's keep the energy up and stay in a positive mindset to conquer the test instead of wishing to get it over with. Get excited to show it who's boss.

kylemolodets · Post by **kylemolodets** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:30 am

I finally got around to BR'ing PT 66.

I did the whole test except for the jazz section, I couldn't get myself to do that again...

159/167. I thought this would be a 154 or something like that, but I'm surprised it's still 2 points higher than my June score. I got a whopping -11 on the RC this time around, running out of time for the entire last section didn't help.

Over the last 3 tests my averages are looking like this:
LR: - 13 17 13
LG - 0 0 3 :S
RC: - 6 12 11

I feel like if I just fix timing I can help my RC out a lot, but 14 points to LR is pretty ridiculous...I've been working on LR too but there doesn't seem to be much improvement (except for the fact that my "best" LR section is -6, which was on this last test)

All I want is to be in the 160s consistently.....

pleadthafif · Post by **pleadthafif** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:15 am

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slizerd · Post by **slizerd** » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:35 am

pleadthafif wrote:I know it's because of self-selection but it's kind of weird that on TLS mid-high 160s are disappointing. That's like 92nd percentile haha.

I agree 100%. I got a 170 in October and feel like a failure haha