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[Doubting Law]

So I did my first timed "lukewarm" diagnostic on Saturday. It certainly was a real kick in the pants to do a full-timed test. The bad part is, I am pretty confident that I would have scored 140ish if I actually took it cold. Felt really shitty about my score afterwards. However, upon doing some actual analysis of it, I can see where I left 5-10 possible points on the table. All in all, the test provided me with a lot of needed perspective and a reality check. It also made me realize it is very humbling to be in this thread with guys like Tort and Protein banging 170+ scores.

Anyway I'll do some recap of this turd of a test below.

Score - 149 June 07' 7sage app proctored
Did not finish any of the sections on time. Purposely did not guess when I knew I was almost out.

Section 1 - LG
-12
5 total left unanswered
Games 1 and 3 I went -1 total. These flowed and went well.
Games 2 and 4 I went -11 total. Failing. I completely misunderstood the rules on both and realized this about half way through each. I knew I was screwed. Scrambled to try and go back and fix them, but just ran out of time. Left Game 2 completely unanswered. Just need more LG experience under my belt.

Section 2 - LR
-9
2 total left unanswered
Struggled to pull out the argument and flaw in a lot of these. Spent way too long trying to figure out some of the questions.

Section 3 - LR
-6
2 left unanswered.
Same issue as before. However, I settled down somewhat and was actually surprised at how well I did.

Section 4 - RC
-16. WTF.
5 left unanswered
Honestly, this surprised the hell out of me. Certainly did not feel like I was sucking when I did it. Though I have done next to nothing on RC prep so far. Did not miss any on the first passage. It rapidly deteriorated after that and I did not even get to the last passage's questions. I am really going to have bring this up. Especially the speed of my reading.

In summation, I have a shit ton of work to do...

It may be daunting, and you have your work cut out, but you at least know where you are beginning now and the work to be done! I am not where I would like to be at either. Here's to catching up to Protein & Tort . I was really unhappy with my games during my first real diagnostic. The clock got the better of me, and I felt compelled to rush.

^this

[proteinshake]

about to drive to the library and take PT 39. gonna BR and post the results tonight!

[YupSports]

So I did my first timed "lukewarm" diagnostic on Saturday. It certainly was a real kick in the pants to do a full-timed test. The bad part is, I am pretty confident that I would have scored 140ish if I actually took it cold. Felt really shitty about my score afterwards. However, upon doing some actual analysis of it, I can see where I left 5-10 possible points on the table. All in all, the test provided me with a lot of needed perspective and a reality check. It also made me realize it is very humbling to be in this thread with guys like Tort and Protein banging 170+ scores.

Anyway I'll do some recap of this turd of a test below.

Score - 149 June 07' 7sage app proctored
Did not finish any of the sections on time. Purposely did not guess when I knew I was almost out.

Section 1 - LG
-12
5 total left unanswered
Games 1 and 3 I went -1 total. These flowed and went well.
Games 2 and 4 I went -11 total. Failing. I completely misunderstood the rules on both and realized this about half way through each. I knew I was screwed. Scrambled to try and go back and fix them, but just ran out of time. Left Game 2 completely unanswered. Just need more LG experience under my belt.

Section 2 - LR
-9
2 total left unanswered
Struggled to pull out the argument and flaw in a lot of these. Spent way too long trying to figure out some of the questions.

Section 3 - LR
-6
2 left unanswered.
Same issue as before. However, I settled down somewhat and was actually surprised at how well I did.

Section 4 - RC
-16. WTF.
5 left unanswered
Honestly, this surprised the hell out of me. Certainly did not feel like I was sucking when I did it. Though I have done next to nothing on RC prep so far. Did not miss any on the first passage. It rapidly deteriorated after that and I did not even get to the last passage's questions. I am really going to have bring this up. Especially the speed of my reading.

In summation, I have a shit ton of work to do...

I've got confidence in you - you've got plenty of time!

[proteinshake]

okay nevermind I'm gonna just drill and take my PT tomorrow morning lolz

[proteinshake]

sat down to take a PT and just was not in the zone. I think it's cause it's late in the day and I woke up pretty early. gonna take PT 40 tomorrow morning. just gonna bum around for the rest of the day.

[Mikey]

I'm finding that the 7Sage recommended times for a lot of these games are either too low or too high in my opinion. anyone else feel like this?

I think for some games the recommended time is questionable depending on the game. I have to agree with JY when he recommends doing basic sequencing games in like 5 or 6 mins though.

[proteinshake]

I'm finding that the 7Sage recommended times for a lot of these games are either too low or too high in my opinion. anyone else feel like this?

I think for some games the recommended time is questionable depending on the game. I have to agree with JY when he recommends doing basic sequencing games in like 5 or 6 mins though.

yeah all the times that I've think I've disagreed with have been grouping games.

[Mikey]

I'm finding that the 7Sage recommended times for a lot of these games are either too low or too high in my opinion. anyone else feel like this?

I think for some games the recommended time is questionable depending on the game. I have to agree with JY when he recommends doing basic sequencing games in like 5 or 6 mins though.

yeah all the times that I've think I've disagreed with have been grouping games.

Yeah definitely because others may approach that particular game in a different way that makes them go faster. Even with the basic sequencing games, someone can knock it out in less than 5 mins. Like, I spoke with someone on here who can finish an LG section in 20-25 mins. Meanwhile, for someone like myself, I need the entire 35 mins. I feel like JY just recommends the amount of time it takes himself to do them, not really a one size fits all thing, haha.

[Alexandros]

I'm finding that the 7Sage recommended times for a lot of these games are either too low or too high in my opinion. anyone else feel like this?

I think for some games the recommended time is questionable depending on the game. I have to agree with JY when he recommends doing basic sequencing games in like 5 or 6 mins though.

yeah all the times that I've think I've disagreed with have been grouping games.

Yeah definitely because others may approach that particular game in a different way that makes them go faster. Even with the basic sequencing games, someone can knock it out in less than 5 mins. Like, I spoke with someone on here who can finish an LG section in 20-25 mins. Meanwhile, for someone like myself, I need the entire 35 mins. I feel like JY just recommends the amount of time it takes himself to do them, not really a one size fits all thing, haha.

^ Agreed. Also found that with their "difficulty level" ratings. Sometimes they match mine, but often they don't.

[20170322]

Just set a new PT record! So so so happy!!!


PT 61, Administered October 2010
Conditions: 4 section PT, taken in library, 7-sage proctored.

RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -1
LR2: -0
Raw: 98
Scaled: 179



So unbelievably pumped. I never even thought this would be possible. I know I should have taken a 5 section test instead of 4, so it may not be indicative, but still, I'm chalking this up as a win.

[Barack O'Drama]

Just set a new PT record! So so so happy!!!


PT 61, Administered October 2010
Conditions: 4 section PT, taken in library, 7-sage proctored.

RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -1
LR2: -0
Raw: 98
Scaled: 179



So unbelievably pumped. I never even thought this would be possible. I know I should have taken a 5 section test instead of 4, so it may not be indicative, but still, I'm chalking this up as a win.

WIN! Amazing Congrats!

[Mikey]

Just set a new PT record! So so so happy!!!


PT 61, Administered October 2010
Conditions: 4 section PT, taken in library, 7-sage proctored.

RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -1
LR2: -0
Raw: 98
Scaled: 179



So unbelievably pumped. I never even thought this would be possible. I know I should have taken a 5 section test instead of 4, so it may not be indicative, but still, I'm chalking this up as a win.

You're getting closer to that 180! Good job Bruh!

[Alexandros]

Just set a new PT record! So so so happy!!!


PT 61, Administered October 2010
Conditions: 4 section PT, taken in library, 7-sage proctored.

RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -1
LR2: -0
Raw: 98
Scaled: 179



So unbelievably pumped. I never even thought this would be possible. I know I should have taken a 5 section test instead of 4, so it may not be indicative, but still, I'm chalking this up as a win.

WELL DAMN. Congrats!!

[proteinshake]

Just set a new PT record! So so so happy!!!


PT 61, Administered October 2010
Conditions: 4 section PT, taken in library, 7-sage proctored.

RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -1
LR2: -0
Raw: 98
Scaled: 179



So unbelievably pumped. I never even thought this would be possible. I know I should have taken a 5 section test instead of 4, so it may not be indicative, but still, I'm chalking this up as a win.

good work!

[PhiladelphiaCollins]

Just set a new PT record! So so so happy!!!


PT 61, Administered October 2010
Conditions: 4 section PT, taken in library, 7-sage proctored.

RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -1
LR2: -0
Raw: 98
Scaled: 179

So unbelievably pumped. I never even thought this would be possible. I know I should have taken a 5 section test instead of 4, so it may not be indicative, but still, I'm chalking this up as a win.

Goddamn.

B.R. 'd PT 60 from last week and ended up at a 171. Obviously not incredible but good to know I have the fundamentals down (almost) to a T this far out from test day

[Alexandros]

Just set a new PT record! So so so happy!!!


PT 61, Administered October 2010
Conditions: 4 section PT, taken in library, 7-sage proctored.

RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -1
LR2: -0
Raw: 98
Scaled: 179

So unbelievably pumped. I never even thought this would be possible. I know I should have taken a 5 section test instead of 4, so it may not be indicative, but still, I'm chalking this up as a win.

Goddamn.

B.R. 'd PT 60 from last week and ended up at a 171. Obviously not incredible but good to know I have the fundamentals down (almost) to a T this far out from test day

171's a pretty stellar score - Congrats!

[PhiladelphiaCollins]

Goddamn.

B.R. 'd PT 60 from last week and ended up at a 171. Obviously not incredible but good to know I have the fundamentals down (almost) to a T this far out from test day

171's a pretty stellar score - Congrats!

Haha, it was actually a 165 when I took it for real, I'd be doing backflips if I threw up a 171

[Doubting Law]

Just set a new PT record! So so so happy!!!


PT 61, Administered October 2010
Conditions: 4 section PT, taken in library, 7-sage proctored.

RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -1
LR2: -0
Raw: 98
Scaled: 179



So unbelievably pumped. I never even thought this would be possible. I know I should have taken a 5 section test instead of 4, so it may not be indicative, but still, I'm chalking this up as a win.

Congrats on the awesome score! Just curious but how many months of prep did it take you to break 170 on your PTs?

[20170322]

Just set a new PT record! So so so happy!!!


PT 61, Administered October 2010
Conditions: 4 section PT, taken in library, 7-sage proctored.

RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -1
LR2: -0
Raw: 98
Scaled: 179



So unbelievably pumped. I never even thought this would be possible. I know I should have taken a 5 section test instead of 4, so it may not be indicative, but still, I'm chalking this up as a win.

Congrats on the awesome score! Just curious but how many months of prep did it take you to break 170 on your PTs?

My diagnostic was a 164, so I think I broke 170 in the next month or so, but it was wildly inconsistent until the past few weeks.

[20170322]

Man, I'm amped now. My goal is a 172, so I think from here until September I need to work on consistency, making sure nothing can get in the way.

[cgra1916]

Man, I'm amped now. My goal is a 172, so I think from here until September I need to work on consistency, making sure nothing can get in the way.

Congrats! Get yourself a beer

[Archer@Law]

So I did my first timed "lukewarm" diagnostic on Saturday. It certainly was a real kick in the pants to do a full-timed test. The bad part is, I am pretty confident that I would have scored 140ish if I actually took it cold. Felt really shitty about my score afterwards. However, upon doing some actual analysis of it, I can see where I left 5-10 possible points on the table. All in all, the test provided me with a lot of needed perspective and a reality check. It also made me realize it is very humbling to be in this thread with guys like Tort and Protein banging 170+ scores.

Anyway I'll do some recap of this turd of a test below.

Score - 149 June 07' 7sage app proctored
Did not finish any of the sections on time. Purposely did not guess when I knew I was almost out.

Section 1 - LG
-12
5 total left unanswered
Games 1 and 3 I went -1 total. These flowed and went well.
Games 2 and 4 I went -11 total. Failing. I completely misunderstood the rules on both and realized this about half way through each. I knew I was screwed. Scrambled to try and go back and fix them, but just ran out of time. Left Game 2 completely unanswered. Just need more LG experience under my belt.

Section 2 - LR
-9
2 total left unanswered
Struggled to pull out the argument and flaw in a lot of these. Spent way too long trying to figure out some of the questions.

Section 3 - LR
-6
2 left unanswered.
Same issue as before. However, I settled down somewhat and was actually surprised at how well I did.

Section 4 - RC
-16. WTF.
5 left unanswered
Honestly, this surprised the hell out of me. Certainly did not feel like I was sucking when I did it. Though I have done next to nothing on RC prep so far. Did not miss any on the first passage. It rapidly deteriorated after that and I did not even get to the last passage's questions. I am really going to have bring this up. Especially the speed of my reading.

In summation, I have a shit ton of work to do...

It may be daunting, and you have your work cut out, but you at least know where you are beginning now and the work to be done! I am not where I would like to be at either. Here's to catching up to Protein & Tort . I was really unhappy with my games during my first real diagnostic. The clock got the better of me, and I felt compelled to rush.

Appreciate the support! Yeah I see lots of areas for improvement and I just have to put the work in. One step at a time. I am actually excited to take another PT in a few weeks to see where I'm at.

[Archer@Law]

Just set a new PT record! So so so happy!!!


PT 61, Administered October 2010
Conditions: 4 section PT, taken in library, 7-sage proctored.

RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -1
LR2: -0
Raw: 98
Scaled: 179



So unbelievably pumped. I never even thought this would be possible. I know I should have taken a 5 section test instead of 4, so it may not be indicative, but still, I'm chalking this up as a win.

Holy shit man congrats! Pumped for you!

[Archer@Law]

So I did my first timed "lukewarm" diagnostic on Saturday. It certainly was a real kick in the pants to do a full-timed test. The bad part is, I am pretty confident that I would have scored 140ish if I actually took it cold. Felt really shitty about my score afterwards. However, upon doing some actual analysis of it, I can see where I left 5-10 possible points on the table. All in all, the test provided me with a lot of needed perspective and a reality check. It also made me realize it is very humbling to be in this thread with guys like Tort and Protein banging 170+ scores.

Anyway I'll do some recap of this turd of a test below.

Score - 149 June 07' 7sage app proctored
Did not finish any of the sections on time. Purposely did not guess when I knew I was almost out.

Section 1 - LG
-12
5 total left unanswered
Games 1 and 3 I went -1 total. These flowed and went well.
Games 2 and 4 I went -11 total. Failing. I completely misunderstood the rules on both and realized this about half way through each. I knew I was screwed. Scrambled to try and go back and fix them, but just ran out of time. Left Game 2 completely unanswered. Just need more LG experience under my belt.

Section 2 - LR
-9
2 total left unanswered
Struggled to pull out the argument and flaw in a lot of these. Spent way too long trying to figure out some of the questions.

Section 3 - LR
-6
2 left unanswered.
Same issue as before. However, I settled down somewhat and was actually surprised at how well I did.

Section 4 - RC
-16. WTF.
5 left unanswered
Honestly, this surprised the hell out of me. Certainly did not feel like I was sucking when I did it. Though I have done next to nothing on RC prep so far. Did not miss any on the first passage. It rapidly deteriorated after that and I did not even get to the last passage's questions. I am really going to have bring this up. Especially the speed of my reading.

In summation, I have a shit ton of work to do...

I've got confidence in you - you've got plenty of time!

Yeah I think there is time to make significant improvement. However, I am currently making peace with the fact that if I'm not ready in time for September, I'm not ready. This test is just too important to rush on.

[Barack O'Drama]

So I did my first timed "lukewarm" diagnostic on Saturday. It certainly was a real kick in the pants to do a full-timed test. The bad part is, I am pretty confident that I would have scored 140ish if I actually took it cold. Felt really shitty about my score afterwards. However, upon doing some actual analysis of it, I can see where I left 5-10 possible points on the table. All in all, the test provided me with a lot of needed perspective and a reality check. It also made me realize it is very humbling to be in this thread with guys like Tort and Protein banging 170+ scores.

Anyway I'll do some recap of this turd of a test below.

Score - 149 June 07' 7sage app proctored
Did not finish any of the sections on time. Purposely did not guess when I knew I was almost out.

Section 1 - LG
-12
5 total left unanswered
Games 1 and 3 I went -1 total. These flowed and went well.
Games 2 and 4 I went -11 total. Failing. I completely misunderstood the rules on both and realized this about half way through each. I knew I was screwed. Scrambled to try and go back and fix them, but just ran out of time. Left Game 2 completely unanswered. Just need more LG experience under my belt.

Section 2 - LR
-9
2 total left unanswered
Struggled to pull out the argument and flaw in a lot of these. Spent way too long trying to figure out some of the questions.

Section 3 - LR
-6
2 left unanswered.
Same issue as before. However, I settled down somewhat and was actually surprised at how well I did.

Section 4 - RC
-16. WTF.
5 left unanswered
Honestly, this surprised the hell out of me. Certainly did not feel like I was sucking when I did it. Though I have done next to nothing on RC prep so far. Did not miss any on the first passage. It rapidly deteriorated after that and I did not even get to the last passage's questions. I am really going to have bring this up. Especially the speed of my reading.

In summation, I have a shit ton of work to do...

I've got confidence in you - you've got plenty of time!

Yeah I think there is time to make significant improvement. However, I am currently making peace with the fact that if I'm not ready in time for September, I'm not ready. This test is just too important to rush on.

I think you'll be fine. Just focus on LG. I had a similar diagnostic. I did a little better on RC, but that's literally it. Start reading a page out of WS Journal or NYT, The Economist everyday to work on your reading speed while you work on LG. Once you get logic games down you'll easily be in the high 150s. Then LR/RC will be what you need to focus on to get your score where you need to be.

And I couldn't agree more about going to terms with not being ready. I really want more than anything to score high in September, but if for some reason I'm not ready and or don't score high enough, I'll retake in December. Even sit out another cycle if necessary. I think Harvard is worth waiting another year for