The Official September 2017 Study Group Forum

[oopsu812]

You guys ever get unsolicited advice on how to be a lawyer/traits you need to be a lawyer from people who aren't lawyers themselves? For me, they always seem to assume you're going into criminal law, and being that I'm generally a laid-back, quiet guy, they always comment about "public speaking" and "assertiveness." I just kind of smile and nod.

I occasionally hear people tell others "you argue well, you should be an attorney", which always makes me laugh. Most people assume: attorney = arguing in court and yelling "objection!". The stereotypes are prevalent.

There's also always the usual, "ew lawyers...professional assholes," reaction.

I dunno if I've ever gotten 'you're gonna be a great lawyer because [some dumb reason]" but I've def gotten "You're gonna be a terrible lawyer because [some dumb reason]!" during fights once or twice.

That's not cool. They must have lost the fight if they got personal like that, lol.

[URMSenator52]

You guys ever get unsolicited advice on how to be a lawyer/traits you need to be a lawyer from people who aren't lawyers themselves? For me, they always seem to assume you're going into criminal law, and being that I'm generally a laid-back, quiet guy, they always comment about "public speaking" and "assertiveness." I just kind of smile and nod.

I occasionally hear people tell others "you argue well, you should be an attorney", which always makes me laugh. Most people assume: attorney = arguing in court and yelling "objection!". The stereotypes are prevalent.

There's also always the usual, "ew lawyers...professional assholes," reaction.

I dunno if I've ever gotten 'you're gonna be a great lawyer because [some dumb reason]" but I've def gotten "You're gonna be a terrible lawyer because [some dumb reason]!" during fights once or twice.

That's not cool. They must have lost the fight if they got personal like that, lol.

Prosecution or Litigation life for those news headlines plus benefiting the community. I would only clerk for the fed... Big Law outside of IP is terrible imo. Barley any courtroom action outside Litigation. Barely any headlines,most people outside of law. Assume and characterize Big Law = Representing scum Cooperation's like cigarette company's lol.(Cough N.Y. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand represented cig company Philip Morris,during her NY big law career after graduating Syra€use Law).....

[Alexandros]

You guys ever get unsolicited advice on how to be a lawyer/traits you need to be a lawyer from people who aren't lawyers themselves? For me, they always seem to assume you're going into criminal law, and being that I'm generally a laid-back, quiet guy, they always comment about "public speaking" and "assertiveness." I just kind of smile and nod.

I occasionally hear people tell others "you argue well, you should be an attorney", which always makes me laugh. Most people assume: attorney = arguing in court and yelling "objection!". The stereotypes are prevalent.

There's also always the usual, "ew lawyers...professional assholes," reaction.

I dunno if I've ever gotten 'you're gonna be a great lawyer because [some dumb reason]" but I've def gotten "You're gonna be a terrible lawyer because [some dumb reason]!" during fights once or twice.

That's not cool. They must have lost the fight if they got personal like that, lol.

Prosecution or Litigation life for those news headlines plus benefiting the community. I would only clerk for the fed... Big Law outside of IP is terrible imo. Barley any courtroom action outside Litigation. Barely any headlines,most people outside of law. Assume and characterize Big Law = Representing scum Cooperation's like cigarette company's lol.(Cough N.Y. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand represented cig company Philip Morris,during her NY big law career after graduating Syra€use Law).....

Cool story bro.

[oopsu812]

You guys ever get unsolicited advice on how to be a lawyer/traits you need to be a lawyer from people who aren't lawyers themselves? For me, they always seem to assume you're going into criminal law, and being that I'm generally a laid-back, quiet guy, they always comment about "public speaking" and "assertiveness." I just kind of smile and nod.

I occasionally hear people tell others "you argue well, you should be an attorney", which always makes me laugh. Most people assume: attorney = arguing in court and yelling "objection!". The stereotypes are prevalent.

There's also always the usual, "ew lawyers...professional assholes," reaction.

I dunno if I've ever gotten 'you're gonna be a great lawyer because [some dumb reason]" but I've def gotten "You're gonna be a terrible lawyer because [some dumb reason]!" during fights once or twice.

That's not cool. They must have lost the fight if they got personal like that, lol.

Prosecution or Litigation life for those news headlines plus benefiting the community. I would only clerk for the fed... Big Law outside of IP is terrible imo. Barley any courtroom action outside Litigation. Barely any headlines,most people outside of law. Assume and characterize Big Law = Representing scum Cooperation's like cigarette company's lol.(Cough N.Y. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand represented cig company Philip Morris,during her NY big law career after graduating Syra€use Law).....

Bitte?

[Alexandros]

You guys ever get unsolicited advice on how to be a lawyer/traits you need to be a lawyer from people who aren't lawyers themselves? For me, they always seem to assume you're going into criminal law, and being that I'm generally a laid-back, quiet guy, they always comment about "public speaking" and "assertiveness." I just kind of smile and nod.

I occasionally hear people tell others "you argue well, you should be an attorney", which always makes me laugh. Most people assume: attorney = arguing in court and yelling "objection!". The stereotypes are prevalent.

There's also always the usual, "ew lawyers...professional assholes," reaction.

I dunno if I've ever gotten 'you're gonna be a great lawyer because [some dumb reason]" but I've def gotten "You're gonna be a terrible lawyer because [some dumb reason]!" during fights once or twice.

That's not cool. They must have lost the fight if they got personal like that, lol.

It was more amusing than anything. They definitely lost that one.

[URMSenator52]

You guys ever get unsolicited advice on how to be a lawyer/traits you need to be a lawyer from people who aren't lawyers themselves? For me, they always seem to assume you're going into criminal law, and being that I'm generally a laid-back, quiet guy, they always comment about "public speaking" and "assertiveness." I just kind of smile and nod.

I occasionally hear people tell others "you argue well, you should be an attorney", which always makes me laugh. Most people assume: attorney = arguing in court and yelling "objection!". The stereotypes are prevalent.

There's also always the usual, "ew lawyers...professional assholes," reaction.

I dunno if I've ever gotten 'you're gonna be a great lawyer because [some dumb reason]" but I've def gotten "You're gonna be a terrible lawyer because [some dumb reason]!" during fights once or twice.

That's not cool. They must have lost the fight if they got personal like that, lol.

Prosecution or Litigation life for those news headlines plus benefiting the community. I would only clerk for the fed... Big Law outside of IP is terrible imo. Barley any courtroom action outside Litigation. Barely any headlines,most people outside of law. Assume and characterize Big Law = Representing scum Cooperation's like cigarette company's lol.(Cough N.Y. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand represented cig company Philip Morris,during her NY big law career after graduating Syra€use Law).....

Cool story bro.

yeah brah making a legal difference to protect America's children, adults, and Senior Citizens is a "cool" story .. That is not worth mentioning at all for supposed future lawyers. Big Law you can definitely protect people over cooperation's..

[Alexandros]

My neurotic friends re LoRs and profs who haven't taught you in class -
https://law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admi ... pplication
https://law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admi ... mmendation

It looks like senior thesis supervisor does count for LoR?
Still feel like it might be risky if they haven't actually taught you in a class.
Also need to check what the deal is for non-Yehl skools. Incoming excel sheet.

[oopsu812]

My neurotic friends re LoRs and profs who haven't taught you in class -
https://law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admi ... pplication
https://law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admi ... mmendation

It looks like senior thesis supervisor does count for LoR?
Still feel like it might be risky if they haven't actually taught you in a class.
Also need to check what the deal is for non-Yehl skools. Incoming excel sheet.

That could be very good for you indeed indeed. Man, I'd love to somehow get 3 amazing letters...

Also, Stanford (if you're interested) loves Stanford-specific letters.

[Alexandros]

My neurotic friends re LoRs and profs who haven't taught you in class -
https://law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admi ... pplication
https://law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admi ... mmendation

It looks like senior thesis supervisor does count for LoR?
Still feel like it might be risky if they haven't actually taught you in a class.
Also need to check what the deal is for non-Yehl skools. Incoming excel sheet.

That could be very good for you indeed indeed. Man, I'd love to somehow get 3 amazing letters...

Also, Stanford (if you're interested) loves Stanford-specific letters.

Yeah it's good to know - I'm trying to get someone who'll have taught me in a class for 'thesis supervisor' (not actually a thesis. I don't get to write a thesis because I'm STEM, and my school is a fucked disorganized mess that hates critical thinking, so we just work in a lab doing someone else's research) but my options are very limited so idk if that's gonna happen.

Yeah, I'm going to try to get one of those Stanny-specific LoRs too.

I really hope you're WC and not also a severe insomniac. I need to sleep.

[oopsu812]

My neurotic friends re LoRs and profs who haven't taught you in class -
https://law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admi ... pplication
https://law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admi ... mmendation

It looks like senior thesis supervisor does count for LoR?
Still feel like it might be risky if they haven't actually taught you in a class.
Also need to check what the deal is for non-Yehl skools. Incoming excel sheet.

That could be very good for you indeed indeed. Man, I'd love to somehow get 3 amazing letters...

Also, Stanford (if you're interested) loves Stanford-specific letters.

Yeah it's good to know - I'm trying to get someone who'll have taught me in a class for 'thesis supervisor' (not actually a thesis. I don't get to write a thesis because I'm STEM, and my school is a fucked disorganized mess that hates critical thinking, so we just work in a lab doing someone else's research) but my options are very limited so idk if that's gonna happen.

Yeah, I'm going to try to get one of those Stanny-specific LoRs too.

I really hope you're WC and not also a severe insomniac. I need to sleep.

I mean, at least it'll be an easy A, right? Every cloud and all that. My program doesn't even allow for a thesis.

I'm EST, no idea what sleep is. Must be awake by 7.

[Alexandros]

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[twiix]

(don't quote)
OF COURSE ....

Show up the first day and ask to force add. My school did corny bullshit like that too, and I was able to add every single time that I showed up the first day, sat through class, then talked to prof afterward.

[Alexandros]

(don't quote)
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Show up the first day and ask to force add. My school did corny bullshit like that too, and I was able to add every single time that I showed up the first day, sat through class, then talked to prof afterward.

I'm thinking of emailing the prof.
this is such bullshit.

[twiix]

(don't quote)
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Show up the first day and ask to force add. My school did corny bullshit like that too, and I was able to add every single time that I showed up the first day, sat through class, then talked to prof afterward.

I'm thinking of emailing the prof.
this is such bullshit.

I deleted your post lol, forgot the "don't quote" part

Yeah emailing can't hurt.. just say it's the only one that fits in your schedule due to work or other stuff and you really wanted to be a part of their class because you heard great things about it (other forms of suck-assery will work). Either they say yeah sure! and you get it fixed, or they say no thanks, and you're back where you are now.

[Alexandros]

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[oopsu812]

My school used to do the same thing. The online registration wouldn't let you take any courses that weren't required for your program. Apparently they've changed it now, thank God.

[twiix]

My school used to do the same thing. The online registration wouldn't let you take any courses that weren't required for your program. Apparently they've changed it now, thank God.

I had a calculus based physics class that was a pre-req for the calc 2 physics course that was being offered the 2nd semester my junior year. I took the first one and passed easily, so I thought I'd be full speed ahead. But in the registration system they had some organic chemistry class as the pre-req. I called the admissions office and their response was "[you] aren't supposed to be signing up for that course and [you] need to find the correct one". Basically said I was an idiot. There were officially 0/20 seats filled when the class started. That was the largest amount of unnecessary stress I've ever dealt with. Monkeys could do a better job at setting up reqs and stuff in UG.

[dj9i27]

registration opened for us by amount of credits that system sounds stupid.

Also, work is lame.

[Alexandros]

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[CottonHarvest]

Not gonna lie I get worried when there is no post on this thread for seven hours

[Alexandros]

Not gonna lie I get worried when there is no post on this thread for seven hours

Same.
Are you guys ok

I still think maybe the truck guy got DJ.

[dj9i27]

Not gonna lie I get worried when there is no post on this thread for seven hours

Same.
Are you guys ok

I still think maybe the truck guy got DJ.

wurk pain

[chargers21]

Really torn between schools right now and going to Chicago tomorrow and getting impressed by their ASW probably won't help. Chicago is only 3 hours from home and both of my siblings announced they are moving super far away from my parent's home just this week. My parents have now picked Chicago as their favorite location for me after graduation, but are also fussing about whether I will get shot at UChi because I'm a bit of a hardass in mugging situations and that area is a little worse than some other areas of the city

[oopsu812]

Hey kids, where's the best resource for sorting things by question type?

[proteinshake]

Hey kids, where's the best resource for sorting things by question type?

like this? -- http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/ls ... sheet.html