Should a HS senior take the LSAT in Sept? Forum

[mattsmith216]

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[WaltGrace83]

[mattsmith216]

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[WaltGrace83]

as long as there's a huge curve and 12 is an A-, i'll be alright. thanks for caring enough to post

Dude, you haven't even been to college yet. I'm not going to say that I know your life or about every university or whatever. However, a university setting and a high school setting are two TOTALLY different things.

You are a bit cocky I would add too. It's not a desirable trait.

[mattsmith216]

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[prezidentv8]

the TLS collective

QF excellent hipster band name.

[WaltGrace83]

as long as there's a huge curve and 12 is an A-, i'll be alright. thanks for caring enough to post

Dude, you haven't even been to college yet. I'm not going to say that I know your life or about every university or whatever. However, a university setting and a high school setting are two TOTALLY different things.

You are a bit cocky I would add too. It's not a desirable trait.

Just out of curiosity, was I originally cocky? Or did I become cocky, assuming I was cocky at all, as a result of the treatment by the TLS collective (with some exceptions)?

You were originally quite cocky. Seriously though, you will most likely change your mind and - while I know you'll just tell me that plans could change and you don't care - it still seems like a giant waste of time to be spending perhaps the last truly great summer you'll have studying for the LSAT 4-6 hours a day.

Take it from someone graduating from college this week, you probably WILL regret this decision to not enjoy your last few months of having your whole life in front of you. I always had a plan since even before going to college and the idea of actually graduating is STILL terrifying....and I have job lined up that starts in July! By the time you graduate college, you will have dug yourself in somewhat of a hole or you will have pigeon-holed yourself. This is NOT a bad thing. All I am saying is that you don't want to pigeon-hole yourself too soon. Don't go into college thinking, "I'm going to be an MD/JD! I'm so great! blah blah blah." Go in there thinking, "I am going to take some great classes, meet some great people, study abroad, have life experiences, etc." I would even go so far as to say don't even select a major until second or third semester. Really try to understand what it is you want to do.

You won't believe me but you don't know what you want to do. Just trust me on this one (you won't, I know). There are MANY people who just NOW as GRADUATING SENIORS who are finally figuring out. Don't pigeon-hole yourself.

That is my advice. If you didn't get that, my advice is to NOT worry about the LSAT or the MCAT for a long time.

[John Everyman]

as long as there's a huge curve and 12 is an A-, i'll be alright. thanks for caring enough to post

Dude, you haven't even been to college yet. I'm not going to say that I know your life or about every university or whatever. However, a university setting and a high school setting are two TOTALLY different things.

You are a bit cocky I would add too. It's not a desirable trait.

Just out of curiosity, was I originally cocky? Or did I become cocky, assuming I was cocky at all, as a result of the treatment by the TLS collective (with some exceptions)?

You were originally quite cocky. Seriously though, you will most likely change your mind and - while I know you'll just tell me that plans could change and you don't care - it still seems like a giant waste of time to be spending perhaps the last truly great summer you'll have studying for the LSAT 4-6 hours a day.

Take it from someone graduating from college this week, you probably WILL regret this decision to not enjoy your last few months of having your whole life in front of you. I always had a plan since even before going to college and the idea of actually graduating is STILL terrifying....and I have job lined up that starts in July! By the time you graduate college, you will have dug yourself in somewhat of a hole or you will have pigeon-holed yourself. This is NOT a bad thing. All I am saying is that you don't want to pigeon-hole yourself too soon. Don't go into college thinking, "I'm going to be an MD/JD! I'm so great! blah blah blah." Go in there thinking, "I am going to take some great classes, meet some great people, study abroad, have life experiences, etc." I would even go so far as to say don't even select a major until second or third semester. Really try to understand what it is you want to do.

You won't believe me but you don't know what you want to do. Just trust me on this one (you won't, I know). There are MANY people who just NOW as GRADUATING SENIORS who are finally figuring out. Don't pigeon-hole yourself.

That is my advice. If you didn't get that, my advice is to NOT worry about the LSAT or the MCAT for a long time.

study abroad all year every year including summers, graduate in 5 years.

[WaltGrace83]

^ I can already tell the "real world" sucks....and I'm not even close to it yet.

I never truly understood why TLS told me to take some time off between LS and UG. I do now. As graduates, we have SO much opportunity and yet we go and scramble for the highest-paying jobs we can just so we can say we are doing the "socially acceptable" thing. Before I start law school, I'm going to take a giant road trip and see places. This is the last opportunity I have and so I am going to take it.

[CincinnatusND]

I mean honestly, even if you totally disregard everything that is said about your current career aspirations ITT, take heart to the advice not to waste your summer studying for this test. Spend time with your friends going off to different schools, because it may well be the last time you get to spend a lot of meaningful time with them. And spend time with your family too, especially if you are going away to school.

There are a lot of things you should be concerned about doing this summer, but none of them involve locking yourself in your room and studying for something that won't be relevant until at least four years have passed, those four years being some of the most formative years of your entire life.

And if you really don't care about enjoying the one life you were given, at the time when it should be incredibly enjoyable, then take solace in the fact that by waiting two or three years to study for the LSAT, you'll be better equipped to do so when the time comes. In college, your reading abilities should only improve, as well as your critical thinking skills.

What WaltGrace said is so credited. Go into college with an open mind and you'll get so much more out of it. Also, if you don't study abroad as often as you can, you are doing wrong.

[mattsmith216]

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[mattsmith216]

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[GauchoMarx]

Fair advice. But please read a previous post where I indicated I had too much fun in high school and now it's time to get cracking. And also a previous post that plans might change, but the current plan is what it is. So I was looking for advice to execute such said plan. Finally, taking the LSAT later was one of the options I mentioned, as long as it's within the JD/MD framework. Thank you for your response.

You should have fun in college and put off the crack getting for after.

[WaltGrace83]

^ I can already tell the "real world" sucks....and I'm not even close to it yet.

I never truly understood why TLS told me to take some time off between LS and UG. I do now. As graduates, we have SO much opportunity and yet we go and scramble for the highest-paying jobs we can just so we can say we are doing the "socially acceptable" thing. Before I start law school, I'm going to take a giant road trip and see places. This is the last opportunity I have and so I am going to take it.

Congratulations. Glad to know you found out what works for you. For me, as indicated earlier, I had way too much fun in high school, so my GPA wasn't all that great. Now I want to study.

And also as indicated earlier, I plan to work with some friends/family in their comfortable (not cutthroat and obscenely wealthy) practices.

Finally, I think I mentioned earlier that I'm not doing a difficult major so I can squeeze in pre-med courses. So it's not like I'm doing rocket science and premed.

Well clearly you don't agree with us and it looks like we aren't going to validate your plans.



We can let this thread die now.

[mattsmith216]

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[WaltGrace83]

In addition to that, I will tell you this. I go to a school that is INCREDIBLY focused on the med program and we consistently have one of the higher ranked med schools in the nation for both research and primary care. If you aren't medicine at my school, you basically don't matter. With that said, I know a lot of people pursuing MDs. A lot.

The kind of people that pursue MDs (let's just forget the whole JD stuff for now) are not the kind of people that simply "decide" that they are going to do it. Becoming a doctor is not a choice. It really isn't. For those people that "decide," they will be quickly weeded out by sophomore/junior year. Being a doctor (especially one that is worth his/her salt) is something that you are called to do.

From what you are telling me, it seems you didn't do well in high school. You had "way too much fun" you say. That is NOT the kind of person that successfully becomes a doctor in pretty much any and all cases. Everyone that I know - which is a healthy sampling of many many many different people from many many many different backgrounds - who are moving onto med school were standout students their entire lives. Then didn't just do their assigned reading, they published articles or wrote books. They didn't just volunteer, they started their own fundraiser or charity.

In high school, people tell you that you can be whatever you want to be. In a way, that is true. However, from the VERY LITTLE I know about your track record, your sentiments don't imply that you are really cut out for this.

[WaltGrace83]

^ I can already tell the "real world" sucks....and I'm not even close to it yet.

I never truly understood why TLS told me to take some time off between LS and UG. I do now. As graduates, we have SO much opportunity and yet we go and scramble for the highest-paying jobs we can just so we can say we are doing the "socially acceptable" thing. Before I start law school, I'm going to take a giant road trip and see places. This is the last opportunity I have and so I am going to take it.

Congratulations. Glad to know you found out what works for you. For me, as indicated earlier, I had way too much fun in high school, so my GPA wasn't all that great. Now I want to study.

And also as indicated earlier, I plan to work with some friends/family in their comfortable (not cutthroat and obscenely wealthy) practices.

Finally, I think I mentioned earlier that I'm not doing a difficult major so I can squeeze in pre-med courses. So it's not like I'm doing rocket science and premed.

Well clearly you don't agree with us and it looks like we aren't going to validate your plans.



We can let this thread die now.

Ah... you mean the TLS collective (with some exceptions). Cool.

I gave you legitimate advice and wasn't being a dick.

You may not even be ready for college, dude.

[mattsmith216]

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[WaltGrace83]

And on this thread's dying breath, I'm just glad these guys didn't ask for TLS opinion.

http://www.siumed.edu/medhum/2010Curric ... ogram.html

Anyway, later TLS. I will keep you informed when/if I take the LSAT, MCAT, drop out of college and become a bum or whatever else.

No one is really telling you not to do it. People were just telling you not to do it.....now.

EDIT: lol at highlighting students from SIU's law school.

[copingtrope]

OP, don't listen to all the haters on this board. I think your JD/MD plan is great—it would really come in handy if you wanted to represent yourself in possible malpractice suits, which would save you a lot of money. Also, you might think about throwing in an MBA so you have the know-how to start your own firm. With the economy picking up, though, I'd recommend you do all this as soon as possible. Take the LSAT over the summer, then take the MCAT during your freshman year, and the GMAT the summer after freshman year. While doing this, you should take double the amount of required credits so you can graduate from college in two years. In the fall of your second (and final) year, you apply to schools like Yale and Harvard and Stanford and Penn, and once you get accepted into all of them, you basically have them auction for you to go to their school. Then get all 3 of your degrees in about 2 years, and prosper! Good luck, mattsmith216, and dare to dream!

[TheWeeIceMon]

In addition to that, I will tell you this. I go to a school that is INCREDIBLY focused on the med program and we consistently have one of the higher ranked med schools in the nation for both research and primary care. If you aren't medicine at my school, you basically don't matter. With that said, I know a lot of people pursuing MDs. A lot.

The kind of people that pursue MDs (let's just forget the whole JD stuff for now) are not the kind of people that simply "decide" that they are going to do it. Becoming a doctor is not a choice. It really isn't. For those people that "decide," they will be quickly weeded out by sophomore/junior year. Being a doctor (especially one that is worth his/her salt) is something that you are called to do.

From what you are telling me, it seems you didn't do well in high school. You had "way too much fun" you say. That is NOT the kind of person that successfully becomes a doctor in pretty much any and all cases. Everyone that I know - which is a healthy sampling of many many many different people from many many many different backgrounds - who are moving onto med school were standout students their entire lives. Then didn't just do their assigned reading, they published articles or wrote books. They didn't just volunteer, they started their own fundraiser or charity.

In high school, people tell you that you can be whatever you want to be. In a way, that is true. However, from the VERY LITTLE I know about your track record, your sentiments don't imply that you are really cut out for this.

Eh, you don't have to be that great of a student to get into med school. You just have to know exactly what schools are looking for, which is a lot more intricate than what most law schools require. I bet OP could get in if he really, really wanted it. With that said, OP, don't go to med school. Doesn't sound like you have the right mindset to get through medical training without hating life.

[052220151]

You're definitely gonna have a hard time getting laid in college. You should study all this summer how to get a fake ID so you can buy booze for your dorm and make friends and maybe grab some boob. This is the best advice given to you in this entire thread.

[ManoftheHour]

You're definitely gonna have a hard time getting laid in college. You should study all this summer how to get a fake ID so you can buy booze for your dorm and make friends and maybe grab some boob. This is the best advice given to you in this entire thread.

[Nebby]

Retake.

[cinephile]

I know two people who've done the JD/MD in real life. One of them only ended up doing so because she didn't get biglaw and her family is paying for her schooling and why not go for a different degree that will actually earn you $ if law didn't work out? The other was a degree collector. So, neither of them will end up using both.