The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

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[RZ5646]

Taking a week off. I'll probably regret it but I need some time away from the LSAT. Yesterday ruined me.

Me too bro (the latter part). I've become a perfectionist so that even the smallest errors and time problems make me angry and disappointed in myself, and then I visit TLS and everyone is saying "law school, the only winning move is not to play," and I question whether even a 180 would be an acceptable score.

[20170322]

Can't think of an example, but there have been several instances where one variable is so powerful that he splits the board depending on whether or not it's in.


Also, redrilled a packet of in-out and went -1. Progress.

[leslieknope]

Does anyone else really struggle with in/out grouping? I've been drilling them for a long time and I still can't seem to grasp it. Like, 7sage always "splits the board" fifty different ways, and none of these options seem apparent until I'm reviewing.

Huh? When does 7sage split the board with in-out?
Can you link me an example?

PT 17 game 4 has this. FWIW I didn't split the board when I drilled it yesterday and I -0ed under the recommended time, but I would have if I'd thought of it just to avoid the possibility of speed errors.

[20170322]

Also, apparently the Europe June LSAT is on a Tuesday, and I'll have class then, so I'm bumped back to October.

[jetsfan1]

Also, apparently the Europe June LSAT is on a Tuesday, and I'll have class then, so I'm bumped back to October.

The LSAT is worth missing class for though, no? I'll be taking on Tuesday the 9th as well. Don't think I will be able to bear going on TLS Sunday/Monday and hearing all you discussing the test though. Would get me too antsy.

Also, on the pretest warmup. Yeah I keep it simple as well. Personally, I want to get 0 wrong and go in confident. So its either easy questions or harder ones I've gotten wrong but reviewed. For me, the goal isn't to work. It's just to get in LSAT mode so that first passage/game/few LRs don't get you and make you make a dumb mistake.

[Rigo]

Also, apparently the Europe June LSAT is on a Tuesday, and I'll have class then, so I'm bumped back to October.

You can't miss class one day?
Eta: scooped.
Do it up for October. There's no rush, especially given your age/year in school.

[jetsfan1]

Also, out of curiosity, we don't get (what will be) PT 75, right? We get one of the previously administered Feb tests? Correct me if I'm wrong, really don't know what I'm talking about here, just guessing.

[TheWalkingDebt]

I've been doing pretty well in most LR types, usually going -1 or -2 when drilling by type, but today I hit a pretty big roadblock in Match the Reasoning type, getting 50% out 6 drilled questions (small sample size, I know, but even the ones I got right were a struggle). It was a reality check on how much there is to do and how long the road to the lsat is.

[RZ5646]

Parallel reasoning is perhaps the hardest though because it essentially involves analyzing and discriminating between 6 different stimuli, most of which are very similar. It's certainly the most time-consuming question type.

[The Abyss]

Parallel reasoning is perhaps the hardest though because it essentially involves analyzing and discriminating between 6 different stimuli, most of which are very similar. It's certainly the most time-consuming question type.

I find them to be pretty easy, but they are huge time sinks. Most of them use either Modus Ponens (affirming the sufficient), Modus Tollens (denying the necessary), or the hypothetical syllogism so the argument form is simple. However, just deciphering the stimulus and the ACs takes quite a bit of time. I've noticed that they usually show up somewhere around question 23-26, so I tend to skip them and come back to them at the end. That goes to parallel flaw too.

[NonTradLawHopeful]

Parallel reasoning is perhaps the hardest though because it essentially involves analyzing and discriminating between 6 different stimuli, most of which are very similar. It's certainly the most time-consuming question type.

I find them to be pretty easy, but they are huge time sinks. Most of them use either Modus Ponens (affirming the sufficient), Modus Tollens (denying the necessary), or the hypothetical syllogism so the argument form is simple. However, just deciphering the stimulus and the ACs takes quite a bit of time. I've noticed that they usually show up somewhere around question 23-26, so I tend to skip them and come back to them at the end. That goes to parallel flaw too.

Same. The parallel questions seem less stressful when they are the last ones I do instead of trying to sludge through them halfway through a section.

[NonTradLawHopeful]

Also, out of curiosity, we don't get (what will be) PT 75, right? We get one of the previously administered Feb tests? Correct me if I'm wrong, really don't know what I'm talking about here, just guessing.

For international tests I think you're right. I've seen other people on this forum say they've gotten future administrations on an international test too. They figured it out a year later when the PT came out.

[20170322]

Inch by inch, these logic games are getting easier. I think that doing low intensity, long-term studying (30 minutes or an hour each morning) is gonna work for me, at least until I get closer to my test date.

[JackelJ]

Inch by inch, these logic games are getting easier. I think that doing low intensity, long-term studying (30 minutes or an hour each morning) is gonna work for me, at least until I get closer to my test date.

so when are you taking it Sweets? (I mean scholarly)

[20170322]

Inch by inch, these logic games are getting easier. I think that doing low intensity, long-term studying (30 minutes or an hour each morning) is gonna work for me, at least until I get closer to my test date.

so when are you taking it Sweets? (I mean scholarly)

....the whole Scholarly joke will never end.

And the original plan was June, but with the weird Europe dates it's looking like October. So, I figure I just need to do a little bit over the long-term to get to where I need to be. Last PT was a 171, so I'm backing off of PT's for a while and trying to eliminate errors.

[peppermint]

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[Rigo]

Officially checking in. My job has made it pretty much impossible for me to take Feb so I'll be hanging out with you wonderful Juners ITT now

That sucks that February didn't pan out for you, but I'm glad you're still motivated to sit for the LSAT.

[peppermint]

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[jetsfan1]

Officially checking in. My job has made it pretty much impossible for me to take Feb so I'll be hanging out with you wonderful Juners ITT now

Welcome!

Also, don't know exactly what people do when they BR for LR, but here is a strategy that I think has been working well for me.

First of all, be liberal with the questions you circle. If you have any shadow of a doubt circle it.

Second, when I BR I've been literally writing out the argument core and then why every wrong answer choice is wrong. Minimum a sentence, usually more. Also why the correct choice is right. It is incredibly time consuming, but it makes you overanalyze every word and really formulate an in depth analysis of every answer choice. Would highly recommend it.

[msp8]

Officially checking in. My job has made it pretty much impossible for me to take Feb so I'll be hanging out with you wonderful Juners ITT now

Welcome!

Also, don't know exactly what people do when they BR for LR, but here is a strategy that I think has been working well for me.

First of all, be liberal with the questions you circle. If you have any shadow of a doubt circle it.

Second, when I BR I've been literally writing out the argument core and then why every wrong answer choice is wrong. Minimum a sentence, usually more. Also why the correct choice is right. It is incredibly time consuming, but it makes you overanalyze every word and really formulate an in depth analysis of every answer choice. Would highly recommend it.

How much time do you spend on BR?

PS. Still curious about where you are. I'm reminded of my curiosity whenever I see you post. Since it bothers me, I figure I'll mention it once in awhile to share the unsatisfied curiosity.

[jetsfan1]

Officially checking in. My job has made it pretty much impossible for me to take Feb so I'll be hanging out with you wonderful Juners ITT now

Welcome!

Also, don't know exactly what people do when they BR for LR, but here is a strategy that I think has been working well for me.

First of all, be liberal with the questions you circle. If you have any shadow of a doubt circle it.

Second, when I BR I've been literally writing out the argument core and then why every wrong answer choice is wrong. Minimum a sentence, usually more. Also why the correct choice is right. It is incredibly time consuming, but it makes you overanalyze every word and really formulate an in depth analysis of every answer choice. Would highly recommend it.

How much time do you spend on BR?

PS. Still curious about where you are. I'm reminded of my curiosity whenever I see you post. Since it bothers me, I figure I'll mention it once in awhile to share the unsatisfied curiosity.

At least 3/4 the amount I spent on the section/drill, though I've gotten quicker at it lately (circling less questions and being quicker at finding why an answer is flawed). I've experimented with doing this for every question as a BR, but its too time consuming and I didn't see the value added for the simpler questions.

Haha go ahead and mention it every once in a while, I don't mind, but I'd prefer to keep some of these personal details off here, hope you understand And it has its advantages. Mentioned this elsewhere on the forums, but thank god I didn't have to watch Brady win another Super Bowl. Would rather attend Cooley at sticker. (And while I WANT to say that as a joke, part of me actually would...)

[ChoboPie]

Officially checking in. My job has made it pretty much impossible for me to take Feb so I'll be hanging out with you wonderful Juners ITT now

Hi Pepper!!! (>'-')> <('-'<) ^(' - ')^ <('-'<) (>'-')>

[NL2424]

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[NonTradLawHopeful]

Officially checking in. My job has made it pretty much impossible for me to take Feb so I'll be hanging out with you wonderful Juners ITT now

SHEESH. It seems like this June thread is gonna be fun. Jelly.

Non-June takers are welcome too