DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS Forum

[jw316]

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[koala-fy]

nlee, did you just talk about macros?? Do you do IIFYM?! I think I love you

[Wieters]

But hormone infused milk spares me the added expense of having to purchase HGH.

Ahem. There are no added hormones in milk sold in the US. rBST was the synthetic form of a hormone that cows already produce and the hormone doesn't show up in the milk anyway. But producers have completely stopped using it because of public concern. Now if you get reconstituted milk from Mexico, through Sam's or Walmart, I can't tell you what's in that. But milk is quite rigorously tested and the only difference between raw and not, is that it hasn't been pasturized (heated to a high temp quickly and cooled back down) and sometimes homogonized (pushed through a screen that breaks up fat globules).

Technically, maybe, but raw milk is usually indicative. Industrial operations don't produce raw milk, small ones do. Small ones (especially those who are going out of their way to produce raw milk) are more inclined to raise their livestock more holistically.

Ha. No. Go visit a dairy. Cows will not produce enough milk to be financially beneficial if you don't treat them well. In robotic parlors where cows are given the choice of when and how often to be milked they end up going like 6 times a day. The main reason farmers do organic or raw anything is because they know people will pay crazy amount for it. It is the biggest pain in the ass to get certified. And most of it doesn't even make sense.

Treating them "well" exists along a spectrum; my standard for "well" is not whether or not the cows can literally survive long enough to excrete milk through their udders. If you're making any sort of an informed choice then actually grass-fed/minimally processed is going to be a better decision than standard milk. That doesn't even seem controvertible to me, just more so whether or not you can justify the price/fuss.

[peppermint]

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[IsThisForReal]

Treating them "well" exists along a spectrum; my standard for "well" is not whether or not the cows can literally survive long enough to excrete milk through their udders. If you're making any sort of an informed choice then actually grass-fed/minimally processed is going to be a better decision than standard milk. That doesn't even seem controvertible to me, just more so whether or not you can justify the price/fuss.

Well means the cows are happy and comfortable. If a cow is not happy/comfortable/healthy she will not produce much milk. I believe that I am the most informed ITT when it comes to milk and dairies. What is your rationale for the bolded? Cows are treated just as good in a grass-fed operation as they are in a larger operation.

[Rigo]

[BillPackets]

[mist4bison]

nlee, did you just talk about macros?? Do you do IIFYM?! I think I love you

Nlee's getting all the ladies now! Besides me & rfhassan, now you have koala. Get 'em, nlee

Nlee needs to pw.

I figure we can give him til the Feb Waiters thread. But only until then. Feb 7th and it's go time, Nlee.

ETA: Jgoods and pep, too.

[GreenTee]

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[Wieters]

Treating them "well" exists along a spectrum; my standard for "well" is not whether or not the cows can literally survive long enough to excrete milk through their udders. If you're making any sort of an informed choice then actually grass-fed/minimally processed is going to be a better decision than standard milk. That doesn't even seem controvertible to me, just more so whether or not you can justify the price/fuss.

I believe that I am the most informed ITT when it comes to milk and dairies.

Which one of the following is a questionable reasoning technique employed in the argument?

[Rigo]

[jw316]

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[Rhymes With Wolf]

But her argument that

If a cow is not happy/comfortable/healthy she will not produce much milk.

is probably true, especially now that rBST isn't used to stimulate lactation, right?

[koala-fy]

nlee:

PW or GTFO

Yes.

Says the person who still has yet to PW

[GreenTee]

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[BillPackets]

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nice try bud

[Gray]

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[jw316]

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nice try bud

Hey! I tried!

[nlee10]

nlee, did you just talk about macros?? Do you do IIFYM?! I think I love you

Nlee's getting all the ladies now! Besides me & rfhassan, now you have koala. Get 'em, nlee

IIFYM is the way to go. I felt miserable following a typical bro diet of rice/chicken/broccoli.

nlee, did you just talk about macros?? Do you do IIFYM?! I think I love you

Nlee's getting all the ladies now! Besides me & rfhassan, now you have koala. Get 'em, nlee

Nlee needs to pw.

I figure we can give him til the Feb Waiters thread. But only until then. Feb 7th and it's go time, Nlee.

ETA: Jgoods and pep, too.

[GreenTee]

[GreenTee]

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nice try bud

Hey! I tried!

A for effort.

[jw316]

[jw316]

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[Rhymes With Wolf]

Whenever I see a string of blank posts, I think of this for some reason:

[Rigo]