The Official October Waiter's Oasis Forum

mist4bison · Post by **mist4bison** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:56 pm

cub1014 wrote:
I was referring you you mist. Absolutely take it as a compliment.

I'm blushing

I personally vote ugg or nlee, just because I'll be out of the country when scores are released.

(Let's hope OP doesn't return soon...that would make these plans of a coup a little awkward).

ETA: Even more awkward now that the first post of a page discusses said coup

Tycho · Post by **Tycho** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:56 pm

sanibella wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:I've heard that when you submit your apps doesn't really matter as long as it's before like January.

Seconding not getting extra letters. If TLS is right, the letters won't matter anyway and it's a waste of time. If they do matter, then you'll probably be judged by your worst one, so extras are a risk. That being said, I might request a third one just in case one of my other recommenders doesn't get it done in time.
That is a good idea. I am not going to do that, because I am very confident my recommenders will get mine in on time (they've written for me before) and I don't want to ask anyone to do unnecessary work. Otherwise, I would probably do this as well.

Requested my LORs at the end of August and got them both in mid-September. Maybe I should've held off to keep myself occupied while waiting for scores lol. The piece of mind of having them is nice, though.

Mint-Berry_Crunch · Post by **Mint-Berry_Crunch** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:58 pm

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mist4bison · Post by **mist4bison** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:59 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:I don't really know what to do about a PS. I've applied before with an essay that I really like, and I really want to revise because I think I could make it better (basically keep the same point and subject, but change everything else). I think that the argument in the essay itself is a good reflection of why I want to go to law school.

Thing is, is that's it's really personal. I'm afraid of using the same subject and being seen as both lazy and playing the sympathy card too much.

If you think it's a good reflection of you, I would suggest using the same topic and revising it. I think that you could revise it well enough to make it obvious you aren't lazy.

sanibella · Post by **sanibella** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:59 pm

Tycho wrote:
sanibella wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:I've heard that when you submit your apps doesn't really matter as long as it's before like January.

Seconding not getting extra letters. If TLS is right, the letters won't matter anyway and it's a waste of time. If they do matter, then you'll probably be judged by your worst one, so extras are a risk. That being said, I might request a third one just in case one of my other recommenders doesn't get it done in time.
That is a good idea. I am not going to do that, because I am very confident my recommenders will get mine in on time (they've written for me before) and I don't want to ask anyone to do unnecessary work. Otherwise, I would probably do this as well.

Requested my LORs at the end of August and got them both in mid-September. Maybe I should've held off to keep myself occupied while waiting for scores lol. The piece of mind of having them is nice, though.

Requested mine in beginning of August. I think you made the right choice. I feel much better know I gave my recommenders lots of time. I don't think requesting letters takes up too many hours, unfortunately. It did take me about eight hours, but that is because I went out with both of them to discuss my goals, etc.

Sera Numquam · Post by **Sera Numquam** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:05 pm

My campus is virtually empty because everyone either left or is hiding out in their dorms waiting for the threat time to pass.

Meanwhile, I just met with one of my professors to talk about law school and my personal statement. She wants me to tell her my score as soon as I find out. Hopefully it's worth telling.

AMajorChord · Post by **AMajorChord** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:07 pm

Sera Numquam wrote:My campus is virtually empty because everyone either left or is hiding out in their dorms waiting for the threat time to pass.

Meanwhile, I just met with one of my professors to talk about law school and my personal statement. She wants me to tell her my score as soon as I find out. Hopefully it's worth telling.

Same... Wonder if we're at the same one

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:09 pm

Are any of you who are writing a DS not a recognized racial minority or physically disabled?

Talarose · Post by **Talarose** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:09 pm

I almost died when I got my June score because I thought I needed to submit by the beginning of October in order to have to best chance. And I still think that's true if you've got amazing stats, because it will get you that $$$.

But after reading this:
http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/how-th ... -and-next/

More specifically, this:

Numerous law schools have been in an under-enrolled holding pattern, waiting to see how the WL looks to be shaping up and how strong their medians are. The strategy is to maintain medians at the expense (pun and all) of tuition revenue brought on by class size.

and this

What a 10% increase in first-time June test-takers introduces to this equation is a bit of assurance to deans that they can play this “wait and hold on to numbers over enrollment” game longer into this cycle

I'm starting to think that applying later is better. Not too late, but late November? December? Even after December LSAT? Mugabe I'm reading all of this wrong, but if you apply early and don't have THE strongest stats, doesn't it seem like you're more likely to get rejected because schools are trying to keep their numbers up and waiting for better applicants? So if you apply later when they've already rejected a lot of people and are holding out for higher stats, you'll have a better chance? Idn, just trying to think about something other than Saturday's test and this came up. What do you guys think? Any further insights Spivey?

ugg · Post by **ugg** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:12 pm

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mist4bison · Post by **mist4bison** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:13 pm

RZ5646 wrote:Are any of you who are writing a DS not a recognized racial minority or physically disabled?

Not URM or disabled and I'm writing one.

Harry_Pluxen · Post by **Harry_Pluxen** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:15 pm

RZ5646 wrote:Are any of you who are writing a DS not a recognized racial minority or physically disabled?

I've written one and I'm neither of those. Schools already know if you are a URM based on the "demographics" section of your application. It's great if you can elaborate on that aspect of who you are in a diversity statement. However, a diversity statement isn't necessarily limited to racial minorities or disabilities.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:16 pm

Talarose wrote:I almost died when I got my June score because I thought I needed to submit by the beginning of October in order to have to best chance. And I still think that's true if you've got amazing stats, because it will get you that $$$.

But after reading this:
http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/how-th ... -and-next/

More specifically, this:

Numerous law schools have been in an under-enrolled holding pattern, waiting to see how the WL looks to be shaping up and how strong their medians are. The strategy is to maintain medians at the expense (pun and all) of tuition revenue brought on by class size.
and this

What a 10% increase in first-time June test-takers introduces to this equation is a bit of assurance to deans that they can play this “wait and hold on to numbers over enrollment” game longer into this cycle
I'm starting to think that applying later is better. Not too late, but late November? December? Even after December LSAT? Mugabe I'm reading all of this wrong, but if you apply early and don't have THE strongest stats, doesn't it seem like you're more likely to get rejected because schools are trying to keep their numbers up and waiting for better applicants? So if you apply later when they've already rejected a lot of people and are holding out for higher stats, you'll have a better chance? Idn, just trying to think about something other than Saturday's test and this came up. What do you guys think? Any further insights Spivey?

I don't think applying early is ever worse. They do play a waiting game, but they don't have to accept or reject you immediately; they can just leave you in limbo until they decide they want you. (As far as I know.) This year's expectation of an uptick in applications means that they will wait longer, so whatever small advantage early applicants had in previous years will be smaller this year.

ugg · Post by **ugg** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:16 pm

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RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:19 pm

I'm a first gen college student and come from a working class background, so I feel like I would add diversity to most T14 law school classes, but at the same time I feel like some adcoms might frown upon an able-bodied white guy writing a DS.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:21 pm

theugg wrote:I'm still debating whether to apply as URM or not.

Your username suggests you're an upper-middle class white girl. Have you misled us?

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:24 pm

No DS for me. I'm the typical asian-american applicant who grew up in the nice suburbs of southern california.

mist4bison · Post by **mist4bison** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:25 pm

RZ5646 wrote:I'm a first gen college student and come from a working class background, so I feel like I would add diversity to most T14 law school classes, but at the same time I feel like some adcoms might frown upon an able-bodied white guy writing a DS.

I think writing a DS on being a first gen college student could work. I know a few apps ask about it specifically, too.

ugg · Post by **ugg** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:26 pm

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