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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by GMasters5 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:36 pm

I'm probably in on this, but I'm gonna wait until I get my Dec. score back. I feel like I bombed it based on the fact that I guessed on literally all questions on 1 of the games, and my LG score is usually the anchor for my target score.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Billy Madison » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:52 pm

Li'l Sebastian wrote:
Billy Madison wrote:Checking in. February will be my final attempt. Going on prep for real this time, minimum 40 hour study weeks til test day.
You're gonna die.
Nah, graduating in 2 weeks and not working until after. Won't be too bad at all.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:10 pm

Billy Madison wrote:
Li'l Sebastian wrote:
Billy Madison wrote:Checking in. February will be my final attempt. Going on prep for real this time, minimum 40 hour study weeks til test day.
You're gonna die.
Nah, graduating in 2 weeks and not working until after. Won't be too bad at all.
You're still gonna die eventually, lol.

40 hours seems doable but the most important thing isn't raw hours but making sure that you do a little every single day.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:18 pm

Drilled simple sequencing. Glad I still have that down pat after a year.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:35 pm

Rigo wrote:Drilled simple sequencing. Glad I still have that down pat after a year.
Yeah, procedural memory is really hard to forget. 'Just like riding a bike'

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:40 pm

Li'l Sebastian wrote:
Rigo wrote:Drilled simple sequencing. Glad I still have that down pat after a year.
Yeah, procedural memory is really hard to forget. 'Just like riding a bike'
Second time I've been told that regarding LSAT today. The term "procedural memory" instills greater confidence though. hah

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:44 pm

Is this your first take or retake Sebastian?

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by jm4magic » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:47 pm

Here is my "work out" plan/schedule based off the 15 testmasters lessons and remaining 8.5 weeks left to study:

1) Goal: Begin new lesson every Sunday and Thursday for 8 weeks. Do HW for each respective lesson in the days in between new lesson.
result: Finish all 15 lessons and HW by week 8.

2) Goal: Two Diagnostics per week. every Thursday and Saturday morning for 8 weeks.
Result: complete all 15 DG i have.

I am working a part time job and I have 70% of the content down. Just need to put in the hours to develop the skill necessary to do well on game day.
I am hoping for the best and expecting the worst. I know first hand, things dont always go perfectly according to plan. Therefore, It would be nice to have someone check up on me daily and motivate me to keep training. Especially with new years and X-mas coming up. I will do the same with you.

If you are looking for a motivator, I am your guy. PM me for contact info.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by WorthlessDegree » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:22 pm

Goals for the coming week:

On my last PT, I went 169, but -4 of those came on one reading passage and -3 came off of one logic game. So, for the next week I'm doing nothing but drilling sequencing and science passages. If I could just fix up these areas, I'd be in the mid 175's, so I think it's more valuable to drill than PT right now.

How's everyone else's prep going?

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:54 pm

Rigo wrote:Is this your first take or retake Sebastian?
This is my third and final take. I got a 167 last feb, and a 170 in June.
Rigo wrote:
Li'l Sebastian wrote:
Rigo wrote:Drilled simple sequencing. Glad I still have that down pat after a year.
Yeah, procedural memory is really hard to forget. 'Just like riding a bike'
Second time I've been told that regarding LSAT today. The term "procedural memory" instills greater confidence though. hah
I'm actually a psychology major and I've started a free LSAT class at my university, so LSAT Psychology is kinda my focus. I actually just finished running a study on working memory capacity and reading comprehension.
WorthlessDegree wrote:Goals for the coming week:

On my last PT, I went 169, but -4 of those came on one reading passage and -3 came off of one logic game. So, for the next week I'm doing nothing but drilling sequencing and science passages. If I could just fix up these areas, I'd be in the mid 175's, so I think it's more valuable to drill than PT right now.

How's everyone else's prep going?
I'm starting re-prepping (I guess that's what you'd call it) on the 20th of December.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:59 pm

Cool on both fronts. Any RC memory tips, feel free to pass them along.
Doing grouping games now. I seem to remember conditional logic pretty well so that's encouraging. February is seeming more and more doable for me.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:21 am

Rigo wrote:Cool on both fronts. Any RC memory tips, feel free to pass them along.
Doing grouping games now. I seem to remember conditional logic pretty well so that's encouraging. February is seeming more and more doable for me.

Get familiar with the process.

If you have excess time try the following:

Print out only the passages, not the questions. Answer the following quesitons in short answer format:

•Main Point
•Logic Pieces of the Argument
•Tone
•What Would the title be
•rewrite all the key terms in your own words


for comparison passages or passages where multiple view points are present also write out
•how they're the same
•how they differ
•what the authors/groups would say about the other


The Reading Comprehension section has questions that are way easier than the Logical Reasoning section, but the answer choices are what makes this section difficult. You have to know the answer before you ever EVER look at the choices.

Another great strategy is to cover all the answer choices with post it notes, and write in you own words what the correct answer choice is.

These are two excellent ways of breaking your habit of moving straight into the answer choice. (if you're having problems with reading comp but not logical reasoning this is probably why)

In reading comprehension you absolutely have to pre-phrase the answer because of how similar they are able to make the answer choices look this can cause interference with what you read making you do worse on the rest of the questions. And the longer you spend thinking about answer choices that weren't in the passage the more time your memory has to both degrade and integrate those possible answer choices into a false memory of what you read.

This differs in LR because you are better able to pick out what did or did not happen just by scanning the stimulus. In RC you don't have that luxury, so it is imperative that you spend your time pre-phrasing, this will also help you move faster in the section because less time debating answer choices.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:40 am

Dang, thanks for that Sebastian. That makes so much sense. I'll have to hit RC this time around implementing those methods. I would often be a victim of attractive wrong answers, but I would never pre-phrase so that may explain why.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:11 am

Rigo wrote:Dang, thanks for that Sebastian. That makes so much sense. I'll have to hit RC this time around implementing those methods. I would often be a victim of attractive wrong answers, but I would never pre-phrase so that may explain why.
No problem c:

Keep us up to date on your progress!

I think I'm gonna put that tip in the OP.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by br714 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:06 am

Just curious on everyone'should opinion on best practices to prepare for the changing LG landscape? "Old" LG, PT 1-35?

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:32 pm

br714 wrote:Just curious on everyone'should opinion on best practices to prepare for the changing LG landscape? "Old" LG, PT 1-35?
Yeah old games PT 1-20. You have to think on your feet more with them since standard diagrams don't always work.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:35 pm

LG all day for me.
Also thinking I'll commit to a PT schedule today. Thinking 20-22 PTs between now and February 6th.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:05 pm

Rigo wrote:LG all day for me.
Also thinking I'll commit to a PT schedule today. Thinking 20-22 PTs between now and February 6th.
I may be wrong here, but I suspect your LG is pretty close to perfect.

Don't spend too much time (like I did up to June) on the easiest section at the expense of your worst section.

Since you've been doing logic games for so long I think you should start with LR (logically the hardest section and the one that counts the most with 50-51 points).

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:11 pm

Yeah I just want to get LG down pat (I only started studying at all yesterday (Haven't touched anything since December 2014), so "for so long" isn't accurate haha) so I can actually hit PT's and have them be reflective of where I actually need to work.

Tbf, I messed up and got -4 on LG (my perceived strongest section) yet got -4 on RC (my perceived weakest section) in December 2014 so I need to work on all sections.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:13 pm

Rigo wrote:Yeah I just want to get LG down pat (I only started studying at all yesterday (Haven't touched anything since December 2014), so "for so long" isn't accurate haha) so I can actually hit PT's and have them be reflective of where I actually need to work.

Tbf, I messed up and got -4 on LG (my perceived strongest section) yet got -4 on RC (my perceived weakest section) in December 2014 so I need to work on all sections.
How many on LR?

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:15 pm

Lemme pull up my old LSAT on LSAC. Brb

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Li'l Sebastian » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:16 pm

Rigo wrote:Lemme pull up my old LSAT on LSAC. Brb
You have the fastest reply time of any poster I've ever met. God bless you.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:20 pm

-8 combined, so I was consistently -4 in each section across the board.
Looking back, I was one stupid game away from 170. Oh well. Ever upward.

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Re: The Official February 2016 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:21 pm

Li'l Sebastian wrote:
Rigo wrote:Lemme pull up my old LSAT on LSAC. Brb
You have the fastest reply time of any poster I've ever met. God bless you.
Practice for when I'm a biglaw bitch.

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