DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS Forum

believeland · Post by **believeland** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:09 pm

Joseph wrote:Did anyone else get this crazy hard (not actually that bad) LR section with a pharmaceutical company and their claim about melatonin? I think there was a question about two different species of fish and how they scrap algae too. I'm hoping that was my experimental

Nah, that wasn't experimental. I had that (my exp was LG)

jw316 · Post by **jw316** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:09 pm

Joseph wrote:Did anyone else get this crazy hard (not actually that bad) LR section with a pharmaceutical company and their claim about melatonin? I think there was a question about two different species of fish and how they scrap algae too. I'm hoping that was my experimental

Yup. I got that LR. So if the Han Purple/White isn't in that LR section then that and Han Purple/White are the 2 actual LR's

h3jk5h · Post by **h3jk5h** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:10 pm

flash21 wrote:Am I missing something? Did anyone else find that rug game hard??

I can relate. I didn't know how to diagram it, just didn't know what the game asked of me in general.

jw316 · Post by **jw316** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:11 pm

h3jk5h wrote:
flash21 wrote:Am I missing something? Did anyone else find that rug game hard??
I can relate. I didn't know how to diagram it, just didn't know what the game asked of me in general.

Like at all. Zero idea how to diagram/set it up and I definitely tried.

believeland · Post by **believeland** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:11 pm

flash21 wrote:Am I missing something? Did anyone else find that rug game hard??

Yeah, I had to guess on two of the questions.

It didn't seem that tough, just time-intensive and I think I froze a little.

dasani13 · Post by **dasani13** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:12 pm

h3jk5h wrote:
flash21 wrote:Am I missing something? Did anyone else find that rug game hard??
I can relate. I didn't know how to diagram it, just didn't know what the game asked of me in general.

there was a game in the 60s that was very similar to that one

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:12 pm

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KanGaHru · Post by **KanGaHru** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:13 pm

RC felt like it destroyed me!!! Good thing I destroyed every other question on the test!

ilikebaseball · Post by **ilikebaseball** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:13 pm

flash21 wrote:Am I missing something? Did anyone else find that rug game hard??

Yes. I'm very good at LG's. Usually -1, -0. I thought that was incredibly difficult. I guess it'll be a good curve since its a december test though. Everything was straightforward except for LG's. Also, I was a bit shaky cuz it was my 1st section. I usually finish my LG's in 30 minutes. Today, I guessed on one...

Also, I had the exp RC on section 3. I was SOOO happy because it was, by far, the easiest RC I had ever taken. When I saw it again section 5, I was pissed. But, the other one was pretty easy as well.

LG definitely will make this curve generous. I don't think there's any doubt it was harder than the one in September, and one of the harder, cumulative LG sections I've taken. I don't think that there were any easy ones besides the 2nd one. Not really any huge inferences to be made. However, I will say that I may find it harder than others because I misrepresented a rule in the 1st game.

Either way, I bet we see a -13,-14. We'll see what happens

Wieters · Post by **Wieters** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:13 pm

Based on what has been posted, we can confirm that Mexican-Americans/perfume was the real RC. Regarding the last two in that section, I think they were on biorobotics and stealing thunder in courtrooms?

Thought the first RC was tougher but that I did was more engaged on it. Oh well.

LG seemed easy and much like September. First two games were very easy, and then photographers/artists were harder but nothing unreasonable. Seems like LSAT is trending toward four games that are manageable if you budget time appropriately, but a problem if you take too long on any one game. This in contrast to older LSATs where you had one pattern/visual game that was wtf.

Both LRs seemed toughest of all sections. Again like September, a bunch of questions where the right answer was just the best of the worst. 26 question LR was breezy through the first 15 but then difficult in the last 11.

Btw, on each LR there was am evaluate question. Most prep books say these only appear once every few LSATs. Really put me off because I don't really have a strategy for those.

romano · Post by **romano** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:16 pm

Does anybody know if the middle east and US exam are similar? I keep seeing these weird games and topics.

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:16 pm

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dasani13 · Post by **dasani13** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:17 pm

KanGaHru wrote:RC felt like it destroyed me!!! Good thing I destroyed every other question on the test!

That 3rd passage was so dense

KanGaHru · Post by **KanGaHru** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:18 pm

Time to sit back, relax, and do nothing for 3 weeks.

xz01 · Post by **xz01** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:18 pm

In one of my LRs, there was a double question (one stimulus for two questions) I was like LSAc is doing a throwback now. Plus there was a question on Mozart that I had already seen in an earlier PT

BrazilBandit · Post by **BrazilBandit** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:19 pm

mornincounselor wrote:
Wieters wrote:Based on what has been posted, we can confirm that Mexican-Americans/perfume was the real RC. Regarding the last two in that section, I think they were on biorobotics and stealing thunder in courtrooms?

Thought the first RC was tougher but that I did was more engaged on it. Oh well.

LG seemed easy and much like September. First two games were very easy, and then photographers/artists were harder but nothing unreasonable. Seems like LSAT is trending toward four games that are manageable if you budget time appropriately, but a problem if you take too long on any one game. This in contrast to older LSATs where you had one pattern/visual game that was wtf.

Both LRs seemed toughest of all sections. Again like September, a bunch of questions where the right answer was just the best of the worst. 26 question LR was breezy through the first 15 but then difficult in the last 11.

Btw, on each LR there was am evaluate question. Most prep books say these only appear once every few LSATs. Really put me off because I don't really have a strategy for those.

No biorobotics was exp. (I think)

Biorobotics was experimental - Real RC had Perfume, Free Will Decisions, Stealing Thunder and Mexican - Americans - Not 100% sure about the order

OnionRose · Post by **OnionRose** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:20 pm

LR - So easy, I had assumed it was the experimental, but the consensus here seems to indicate otherwise
LG - Easy, easy, average, hard. The one with artists threw me initially because the prompt before the rules was so similar to a game I had remembered practicing.
LR - Very hard. I hope you all are right about this being the experimental. Guessed on last 4, never have had to guess on a LR section.
RC - Average difficulty of passages and questions. Just SO many questions! Had to guess on last two. The perfume passage was pretty easy, but my eyes wouldn't stop rolling at the author which added difficulty.
LR - Average.

If the hard LR was the exp, I'm guessing a -11 curve.

Wieters · Post by **Wieters** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:20 pm

mornincounselor wrote:
Wieters wrote:Based on what has been posted, we can confirm that Mexican-Americans/perfume was the real RC. Regarding the last two in that section, I think they were on biorobotics and stealing thunder in courtrooms?

Thought the first RC was tougher but that I did was more engaged on it. Oh well.

LG seemed easy and much like September. First two games were very easy, and then photographers/artists were harder but nothing unreasonable. Seems like LSAT is trending toward four games that are manageable if you budget time appropriately, but a problem if you take too long on any one game. This in contrast to older LSATs where you had one pattern/visual game that was wtf.

Both LRs seemed toughest of all sections. Again like September, a bunch of questions where the right answer was just the best of the worst. 26 question LR was breezy through the first 15 but then difficult in the last 11.

Btw, on each LR there was am evaluate question. Most prep books say these only appear once every few LSATs. Really put me off because I don't really have a strategy for those.
No biorobotics was exp. (I think)

Okay, good to know.

Was the stealing thunder real? Comparative reading passage.

The other comparative reading passage I had was on interpreting literature. One passage (A) was short and talked about detective mysteries, other (B) was longer and used poetry as an example, but same general theme.

LSATneurotic · Post by **LSATneurotic** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:20 pm

Unless i am just way too confident, i really thought this test was standard. LG was a piece of cake, i almost thought it was experimental.

No more than -12 curve, take that to the bank

BrazilBandit · Post by **BrazilBandit** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:21 pm

Wieters wrote:
mornincounselor wrote:
Wieters wrote:Based on what has been posted, we can confirm that Mexican-Americans/perfume was the real RC. Regarding the last two in that section, I think they were on biorobotics and stealing thunder in courtrooms?

Thought the first RC was tougher but that I did was more engaged on it. Oh well.

LG seemed easy and much like September. First two games were very easy, and then photographers/artists were harder but nothing unreasonable. Seems like LSAT is trending toward four games that are manageable if you budget time appropriately, but a problem if you take too long on any one game. This in contrast to older LSATs where you had one pattern/visual game that was wtf.

Both LRs seemed toughest of all sections. Again like September, a bunch of questions where the right answer was just the best of the worst. 26 question LR was breezy through the first 15 but then difficult in the last 11.

Btw, on each LR there was am evaluate question. Most prep books say these only appear once every few LSATs. Really put me off because I don't really have a strategy for those.

No biorobotics was exp. (I think)
Okay, good to know.

Was the stealing thunder real? Comparative reading passage.

The other comparative reading passage I had was on interpreting literature. One passage (A) was short and talked about detective mysteries, other (B) was longer and used poetry as an example, but same general theme.

Stealing Thunder was real...

santoki · Post by **santoki** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:22 pm

guessing -19 curve

KanGaHru · Post by **KanGaHru** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:22 pm

dasani13 wrote:
KanGaHru wrote:RC felt like it destroyed me!!! Good thing I destroyed every other question on the test!
That 3rd passage was so dense

I will honestly feel "ok" with even a -6 in RC. Last passage was the worst for me. (Which is horrible because I need a 180 or my wife is leaving me)

santoki wrote:guessing -19 curve

Bahahahaha +1

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:23 pm

Was there more than 27 questions on RC this time?

Joseph · Post by **Joseph** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:24 pm

OnionRose wrote:LR - So easy, I had assumed it was the experimental, but the consensus here seems to indicate otherwise
LG - Easy, easy, average, hard. The one with artists threw me initially because the prompt before the rules was so similar to a game I had remembered practicing.
LR - Very hard. I hope you all are right about this being the experimental. Guessed on last 4, never have had to guess on a LR section.
RC - Average difficulty of passages and questions. Just SO many questions! Had to guess on last two. The perfume passage was pretty easy, but my eyes wouldn't stop rolling at the author which added difficulty.
LR - Average.

If the hard LR was the exp, I'm guessing a -11 curve.

Exact experience, but I think our 3rd and 5th sections (LR) were reversed. I was considering cancelling my score based on whether or not that section was experimental, but I guessed (literally did not bother reading the question or stimulus) 6 questions between LR and RC.

jw316 · Post by **jw316** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:24 pm

santoki wrote:guessing -19 curve

I wish! Haha. Let the church say "amen"