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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by DuncND2013 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:25 pm

I won't go to the lengths this guy is going. But this test did suck. I got a 166 too after lots of 169-176 PTs, but i think it was kind of a perfect storm of shit for that to happen. He's right in that usually, you see some let up on one section's difficulty if another is markedly hard. The LG was markedly hard, but i figured that game out and didn't miss one. My problem was that i opened with that very hard RC and let it get to me mentally on my next two LR sections--which, again, weren't easy. The curve was generous, and it's really my own fault at the end of the day (missing 4/5 LR in one section, missing 2 before LR question 10, somehow getting games 1 and 4 perfect but missing 2 on game 2--WTF). So I won't go all conspiracy. This test sucked a lot though--more than others did. So he's right about that. Hopefully Sep will be a little more normal.

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Post by NYSprague » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:27 pm

DuncND2013 wrote:I won't go to the lengths this guy is going. But this test did suck. I got a 166 too after lots of 169-176 PTs, but i think it was kind of a perfect storm of shit for that to happen. He's right in that usually, you see some let up on one section's difficulty if another is markedly hard. The LG was markedly hard, but i figured that game out and didn't miss one. My problem was that i opened with that very hard RC and let it get to me mentally on my next two LR sections--which, again, weren't easy. The curve was generous, and it's really my own fault at the end of the day (missing 4/5 LR in one section, missing 2 before LR question 10, somehow getting games 1 and 4 perfect but missing 2 on game 2--WTF). So I won't go all conspiracy. This test sucked a lot though--more than others did. So he's right about that. Hopefully Sep will be a little more normal.
It's different when you are actually taking the exam instead of PT. Like someone said, after every exam at least a few people think it was unfairly difficult.
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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by trexjake32 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:27 pm

golden44 wrote:Yes the game may not have been traditional, but I didn't think it was bad at all. Similar to a few others that posted, RC was much more of a challenge for me than LG. I also did better on this test than most of my practice tests so from personal experience definitely not agreeing that this was significantly harder than other LSATs.
For reference, -4 RC, -3 LR, -0 LG for 175
Yea, see, the tough RC plus that last game put me under where I am usually. I've very rarely encountered another test in the past year or so that has had this 'I'm about to fuck you, retake' format. Many of the posters in the waiters threads scored way below anything they've seen. Many people scored worse than they had on a previously administered test.

Congrats on getting a 175, that's really great. But just because you and a limited few others were able to get away with some of this difficulty, doesn't mean that it's right for everyone else. Frankly, that game was a luck of the draw. On a good day, some people who failed it would be able to figure out; on a bad day, you would have been flabbergasted. Surely this type of difficulty is intrinsic for this test, but to the extent it was on this test, I really don't think so.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by DuncND2013 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:32 pm

NYSprague wrote:
DuncND2013 wrote:I won't go to the lengths this guy is going. But this test did suck. I got a 166 too after lots of 169-176 PTs, but i think it was kind of a perfect storm of shit for that to happen. He's right in that usually, you see some let up on one section's difficulty if another is markedly hard. The LG was markedly hard, but i figured that game out and didn't miss one. My problem was that i opened with that very hard RC and let it get to me mentally on my next two LR sections--which, again, weren't easy. The curve was generous, and it's really my own fault at the end of the day (missing 4/5 LR in one section, missing 2 before LR question 10, somehow getting games 1 and 4 perfect but missing 2 on game 2--WTF). So I won't go all conspiracy. This test sucked a lot though--more than others did. So he's right about that. Hopefully Sep will be a little more normal.
It's different when you are actually taking the exam instead of PT. Like someone said, after every exam at least a few people think it was unfairly difficult.
Certainly not dismissing that at all, I'm sure that was a part of it. That being said, I'd bet most people who take this as a PT would think it's on the higher end of the difficulty scale.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by Cal Trask » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:32 pm

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Post by Mullens » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:33 pm

DuncND2013 wrote:
NYSprague wrote:
DuncND2013 wrote:I won't go to the lengths this guy is going. But this test did suck. I got a 166 too after lots of 169-176 PTs, but i think it was kind of a perfect storm of shit for that to happen. He's right in that usually, you see some let up on one section's difficulty if another is markedly hard. The LG was markedly hard, but i figured that game out and didn't miss one. My problem was that i opened with that very hard RC and let it get to me mentally on my next two LR sections--which, again, weren't easy. The curve was generous, and it's really my own fault at the end of the day (missing 4/5 LR in one section, missing 2 before LR question 10, somehow getting games 1 and 4 perfect but missing 2 on game 2--WTF). So I won't go all conspiracy. This test sucked a lot though--more than others did. So he's right about that. Hopefully Sep will be a little more normal.
It's different when you are actually taking the exam instead of PT. Like someone said, after every exam at least a few people think it was unfairly difficult.
Certainly not dismissing that at all, I'm sure that was a part of it. That being said, I'd bet most people who take this as a PT would think it's on the higher end of the difficulty scale.
Yes and that's why it got a -13 curve.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by rebexness » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:33 pm

DuncND2013 wrote:
Certainly not dismissing that at all, I'm sure that was a part of it. That being said, I'd bet most people who take this as a PT would think it's on the higher end of the difficulty scale.
And you get -13 curve for a reason.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by NYSprague » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:33 pm

DuncND2013 wrote:
NYSprague wrote:
DuncND2013 wrote:I won't go to the lengths this guy is going. But this test did suck. I got a 166 too after lots of 169-176 PTs, but i think it was kind of a perfect storm of shit for that to happen. He's right in that usually, you see some let up on one section's difficulty if another is markedly hard. The LG was markedly hard, but i figured that game out and didn't miss one. My problem was that i opened with that very hard RC and let it get to me mentally on my next two LR sections--which, again, weren't easy. The curve was generous, and it's really my own fault at the end of the day (missing 4/5 LR in one section, missing 2 before LR question 10, somehow getting games 1 and 4 perfect but missing 2 on game 2--WTF). So I won't go all conspiracy. This test sucked a lot though--more than others did. So he's right about that. Hopefully Sep will be a little more normal.
It's different when you are actually taking the exam instead of PT. Like someone said, after every exam at least a few people think it was unfairly difficult.
Certainly not dismissing that at all, I'm sure that was a part of it. That being said, I'd bet most people who take this as a PT would think it's on the higher end of the difficulty scale.
That's why you got that huge curve.
Edit:scooped.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by trexjake32 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:39 pm

rebexness wrote:
DuncND2013 wrote:
Certainly not dismissing that at all, I'm sure that was a part of it. That being said, I'd bet most people who take this as a PT would think it's on the higher end of the difficulty scale.
And you get -13 curve for a reason.
JFC.
People: I don't think anyone in this thread doesn't understand how the curve works. What we are saying is that despite the curve, the test/scoring was STILL unfair.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by 09042014 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:40 pm

trexjake32 wrote:
rebexness wrote:
DuncND2013 wrote:
Certainly not dismissing that at all, I'm sure that was a part of it. That being said, I'd bet most people who take this as a PT would think it's on the higher end of the difficulty scale.
And you get -13 curve for a reason.
JFC.
People: I don't think anyone in this thread doesn't understand how the curve works. What we are saying is that despite the curve, the test/scoring was STILL unfair.
It might have been harder for you since it wasn't a game that you drilled for. But most people don't drill that hard. So for them it probably wasn't harder.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by rebexness » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:44 pm

trexjake32 wrote:
rebexness wrote:
DuncND2013 wrote:
Certainly not dismissing that at all, I'm sure that was a part of it. That being said, I'd bet most people who take this as a PT would think it's on the higher end of the difficulty scale.
And you get -13 curve for a reason.
JFC.
People: I don't think anyone in this thread doesn't understand how the curve works. What we are saying is that despite the curve, the test/scoring was STILL unfair.
Took the test, thought the curve was fair. Suck it up.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by t-14orbust » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:45 pm

Please complain to your law professors about your grades. Post results here

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by Calbears123 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:47 pm

Unfair or not I don't know but you have to admit that PT 40-59 were much much easier compared to 60-72.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by DuncND2013 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:48 pm

NYSprague wrote:
DuncND2013 wrote:
NYSprague wrote:
DuncND2013 wrote:I won't go to the lengths this guy is going. But this test did suck. I got a 166 too after lots of 169-176 PTs, but i think it was kind of a perfect storm of shit for that to happen. He's right in that usually, you see some let up on one section's difficulty if another is markedly hard. The LG was markedly hard, but i figured that game out and didn't miss one. My problem was that i opened with that very hard RC and let it get to me mentally on my next two LR sections--which, again, weren't easy. The curve was generous, and it's really my own fault at the end of the day (missing 4/5 LR in one section, missing 2 before LR question 10, somehow getting games 1 and 4 perfect but missing 2 on game 2--WTF). So I won't go all conspiracy. This test sucked a lot though--more than others did. So he's right about that. Hopefully Sep will be a little more normal.
It's different when you are actually taking the exam instead of PT. Like someone said, after every exam at least a few people think it was unfairly difficult.
Certainly not dismissing that at all, I'm sure that was a part of it. That being said, I'd bet most people who take this as a PT would think it's on the higher end of the difficulty scale.
That's why you got that huge curve.
Edit:scooped.
Good lord, yes, I know that. My first post literally said:

-Not unfair
-Test was above average difficulty.
-Should have done better, it's on me.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by Mullens » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:49 pm

trexjake32 wrote:
rebexness wrote:
DuncND2013 wrote:
Certainly not dismissing that at all, I'm sure that was a part of it. That being said, I'd bet most people who take this as a PT would think it's on the higher end of the difficulty scale.
And you get -13 curve for a reason.
JFC.
People: I don't think anyone in this thread doesn't understand how the curve works. What we are saying is that despite the curve, the test/scoring was STILL unfair.
And this argument is completely merit-less. You are essentially arguing that based on your poor score and subsequent butthurt that you don't think the curve, which is pre-equated by LSAC based on hard data and previous experimental sections, was unfair. Your feeling is based on nothing other than pure butthurt.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by DuncND2013 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:52 pm

rebexness wrote:
trexjake32 wrote:
rebexness wrote:
DuncND2013 wrote:
Certainly not dismissing that at all, I'm sure that was a part of it. That being said, I'd bet most people who take this as a PT would think it's on the higher end of the difficulty scale.
And you get -13 curve for a reason.
JFC.
People: I don't think anyone in this thread doesn't understand how the curve works. What we are saying is that despite the curve, the test/scoring was STILL unfair.
Took the test, thought the curve was fair. Suck it up.
So did I. Read my post.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by rebexness » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:53 pm

DuncND2013 wrote:
rebexness wrote:
trexjake32 wrote:
JFC.
People: I don't think anyone in this thread doesn't understand how the curve works. What we are saying is that despite the curve, the test/scoring was STILL unfair.
Took the test, thought the curve was fair. Suck it up.
So did I. Read my post.
Yeah wasn't actually referring to you thus not quote responding to your post.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by DuncND2013 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:55 pm

rebexness wrote:
DuncND2013 wrote:
rebexness wrote:
trexjake32 wrote:
JFC.
People: I don't think anyone in this thread doesn't understand how the curve works. What we are saying is that despite the curve, the test/scoring was STILL unfair.
Took the test, thought the curve was fair. Suck it up.
So did I. Read my post.
Yeah wasn't actually referring to you thus not quote responding to your post.
Fair enough, I should've quoted one of the other people.

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

Post by MistakenGenius » Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:02 pm

anyriotgirl wrote:
theotherone823 wrote:
anyriotgirl wrote:MG do you know what the word rhetorical means?
*Swoosh*
Meh this sounds like a regular mg post I stand by my snark
I don't even know who the hell you are, so bite me.

But seriously, OP, the way the LSAT works, it can be harder or easier depending on your strengths and weaknesses. That's why there's a curve that changes. I'd love to see this logic game that's so hard, but a 13 point curve should have covered it. It sounds to me like you just got unlucky in that the test drew on your weaknesses. It's not LSAC's fault. When you miss an LSAT question, it just means you didn't know it as well as you should have. Just study and retake instead of whining.

Also, it doesn't make sense to argue that there's not many 180 scorers posting so the test must have been harder. There are never many 180 scorers on any test. That's why it's the 99.9 percentile.

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MistakenGenius wrote:
anyriotgirl wrote: Meh this sounds like a regular mg post I stand by my snark
I don't even know who the hell you are, so bite me.
you guys should fight

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For those of you who support me and think this test was unfair, please feel free to sign my petition. I'm still working on editing it so it's cleaned up and more concise, but it will do for now. If I get 1000 signatures I will send it over to LSAC.

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trexjake32 wrote:For those of you who support me and think this test was unfair, please feel free to sign my petition. I'm still working on editing it so it's cleaned up and more concise, but it will do for now. If I get 1000 signatures I will send it over to LSAC.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/dema ... ard-and-to
jesus, this is a lot of effort for a troll

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You should get a change.org or a We The People going for good measure too

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Re: What the Fuck is LSAC's Deal?

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july 2, 2014
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