Define "gunner" Forum

UofO · Post by **UofO** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:51 pm

Ragged wrote:I actually think I will be a gunner, for better or for worse. I usually participate alot in class, not to show off, its just the way I keep myself interested.

me too.

DoctorNick189 · Post by **DoctorNick189** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:51 pm

LieutKaffee wrote:
Ragged wrote:
LieutKaffee wrote:
Ragged wrote:If you can't spot a gunner in your class... its you.
I'm a person who often enjoys exploring the some of the finer distinctions in life. It comes from my philosophy background, I suspect.

Your use of this phrase implies there is a truth of the matter. What is the essence of gunnerism? Perhaps it's something internal rather than external. Perhaps gunnerism is defined by a desire to succeed at the expense of others and a willingness to flaunt this desire. The outward expressions of gunnerism are simply manifestations of this quality.

Dude...seriously?

Lieut Kaffee · Post by **Lieut Kaffee** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:52 pm

Yimbeezy wrote:Pure speculation, but if I wanted to apply the term to undergrad from the way I've seen it described on here:

A gunner is the kid in philosophy class who always raises his hand immediately then says something with a lot of 'likes' in it, going in circles, missing the professor's question completely.

The kid in philosophy class who looks around and raises his hand after a moment of silence (to see if others want to talk first), then hints to a bigger idea rather succinctly, enabling the professor to elaborate, is not a gunner.

Please, those more knowledgeable, let me know if this intuition is on point or not.

I know exactly what you are talking about.

Lieut Kaffee · Post by **Lieut Kaffee** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:56 pm

DoctorNick189 wrote: Dude...seriously?

I'm confused with the way you quoted that. As to your question, I am neither joking nor taking this particularly seriously. Actually, I'm just trying to kill time before my 7:30 final, and none of the other threads I'm watching had anything interesting going on.

Ragged · Post by **Ragged** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:59 pm

jackalope11 wrote:
Ragged wrote:I actually think I will be a gunner, for better or for worse. I usually participate alot in class, not to show off, its just the way I keep myself interested.

Ragged... I would never doubt that you would be a gunner.

Kidding. You know a gunner is also a position on an American football team, too, right? (Special teams...)

See? Assimilating to the tier one sport already!

Sorry... Couldn't help razzin' ya a little when I saw you on the thread.

See you back in Optimism!

Oh no you didn't! Special teams that you are refering to, are they the ones that ride the short bus to the stadium? Atleast, they are all wearing helmets already.

I might raide your happy little thread in a bit.

LoyolaLaw2012 · Post by **LoyolaLaw2012** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:10 pm

I made the mistake of saying that I had no sympathy for people that come unprepared for class. I was labeled a "gunner" almost immediately haha.

I think a gunner is someone that has never stepped back and looked at what they are doing during class. There is one girl with balloon hands in our section, with no idea that she is annoying. She has probably gotten 2 questions right the entire semester. Not only is she taking up valuable class time, but making the class hate her.

If you ask a question each class, or more than one during a single class period, then you are likely referred to as a gunner. Asking questions is mostly a meaningless waste or time, since most people just snicker an tune you out. On the other hand, some people tend to add to the material being discussed.

Remember, you gain absolutely nothing from talking a lot during class. You are only graded on your exams, which is where you want to focus your attention. Save your questions for the breaks, after class, office hours or online forums.

Also, avoid questions that start with: "What if..." or "I'm a (insert profession here)...."

emilybeth · Post by **emilybeth** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:18 pm

LieutKaffee wrote:
Aeon wrote:The impression that I get is that "gunner" is often used excessively as a pejorative of some kind among law students for people they don't like. I also suspect that the incidence of true gunners in law school is much less than claimed.
Your use of this phrase implies there is a truth of the matter. What is the essence of gunnerism? Perhaps it's something internal rather than external. Perhaps gunnerism is defined by a desire to succeed at the expense of others and a willingness to flaunt this desire. The outward expressions of gunnerism are simply manifestations of this quality.

God, I hate philosophy majors.

DannyJames · Post by **DannyJames** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:19 pm

Gunners never prosper...

Lieut Kaffee · Post by **Lieut Kaffee** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:20 pm

emilybeth wrote:
LieutKaffee wrote:
Aeon wrote:The impression that I get is that "gunner" is often used excessively as a pejorative of some kind among law students for people they don't like. I also suspect that the incidence of true gunners in law school is much less than claimed.
Your use of this phrase implies there is a truth of the matter. What is the essence of gunnerism? Perhaps it's something internal rather than external. Perhaps gunnerism is defined by a desire to succeed at the expense of others and a willingness to flaunt this desire. The outward expressions of gunnerism are simply manifestations of this quality.
God, I hate philosophy majors.

Haha! That rambling deserves the response you gave it. Touche.

Lieut Kaffee · Post by **Lieut Kaffee** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:22 pm

DannyJames wrote:Gunners never prosper...

Interesting. If being at the top of one's class is considered prospering, you've actually just posited a very counterintuitive conditional, implying that being a gunner is a sufficient condition for NOT being at the top the class.

Kant · Post by **Kant** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:24 pm

I will probably be a gunner....I want to finish in the top 5%. I wont talk in class, but I will do my shit.

DannyJames · Post by **DannyJames** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:27 pm

LieutKaffee wrote:
DannyJames wrote:Gunners never prosper...
Interesting. If being at the top of one's class is considered prospering, you've actually just posited a very counterintuitive conditional, implying that being a gunner is a sufficient condition for NOT being at the top the class.

3 words is all it took to say what you just said

AtticusFinch · Post by **AtticusFinch** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:28 pm

Kant wrote:I will probably be a gunner....I want to finish in the top 5%. I wont talk in class, but I will do my shit.

Everyone wants to finish in the top 5%, everyone is not a gunner. Most people also do their shit.

Lieut Kaffee · Post by **Lieut Kaffee** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:29 pm

Kant wrote:I will probably be a gunner....I want to finish in the top 5%. I wont talk in class, but I will do my shit.

Your statement provides an implicit answer to my original question. You are suggesting that being at the top is sufficient for gunnerism, regardless of outward habits or personality traits. I believe most of the discussion in this thread contradicts this view. Sounds to me like you'll be alright.

I am certainly not prepared to make a statement such as "I won't talk in class." Then again, law school classes are likely going to be much different than classes I'm accustomed to, so it's hard for me to predict. I hope at least some of them are participation-based...

Lieut Kaffee · Post by **Lieut Kaffee** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:30 pm

DannyJames wrote:
LieutKaffee wrote:
DannyJames wrote:Gunners never prosper...
Interesting. If being at the top of one's class is considered prospering, you've actually just posited a very counterintuitive conditional, implying that being a gunner is a sufficient condition for NOT being at the top the class.
3 words is all it took to say what you just said

And I'm saying you are probably incorrect.

kurama20 · Post by **kurama20** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:30 pm

gunner [guhn-er]

--noun

1. anyone enrolled in their first year of law school with any kind common sense (ITE).
2. me next year
3. someone looking to be employed upon graduation from law school

Lieut Kaffee · Post by **Lieut Kaffee** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:32 pm

kurama20 wrote:gunner [guhn-er]

--noun

1. anyone enrolled in their first year of law school with any kind common sense (ITE).
2. me next year
3. someone looking to be employed upon graduation from law school

Ah, a rare pro-gunner perspective.

DannyJames · Post by **DannyJames** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:34 pm

LieutKaffee wrote:
DannyJames wrote:
LieutKaffee wrote:
DannyJames wrote:Gunners never prosper...
Interesting. If being at the top of one's class is considered prospering, you've actually just posited a very counterintuitive conditional, implying that being a gunner is a sufficient condition for NOT being at the top the class.
3 words is all it took to say what you just said
And I'm saying you are probably incorrect.

remember those 3 words...the counterintuitive conditional will be your friend

puppleberry finn · Post by **puppleberry finn** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:36 pm

LK you are a gunner. Sorry. I'm sure you have enough time to come to terms with it before next year.

AtticusFinch · Post by **AtticusFinch** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:42 pm

puppins wrote:LK you are a gunner. Sorry. I'm sure you have enough time to come to terms with it before next year.

Kaffee knows he is a gunner, he is just looking for a definition that has him prospering in law school.

Lieut Kaffee · Post by **Lieut Kaffee** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:45 pm

puppins wrote:LK you are a gunner. Sorry. I'm sure you have enough time to come to terms with it before next year.

Well, in the meantime, I might as well continue disparaging the type with the rest of the cool kids...

Lieut Kaffee · Post by **Lieut Kaffee** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:45 pm

AtticusFinch wrote:
puppins wrote:LK you are a gunner. Sorry. I'm sure you have enough time to come to terms with it before next year.
Kaffee knows he is a gunner, he is just looking for a definition that has him prospering in law school.

TITCR

AtticusFinch · Post by **AtticusFinch** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:54 pm

Can you find the two gunners?

Ragged · Post by **Ragged** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:01 pm

AtticusFinch wrote: Can you find the two gunners?

Lieut Kaffee · Post by **Lieut Kaffee** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:03 pm

Atticus, where do you attend law school?

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