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Post by WaltGrace83 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:36 am

Thanks for the advice!
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Re: (Paralegal?) Job Offer

Post by Colonel_funkadunk » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:22 am

Great you got a job.

The point of this thread is something I'm still looking for

Eta: lol oh yea humblebrag, not looking anymore

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Post by WaltGrace83 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:01 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:Great you got a job.

The point of this thread is something I'm still looking for

Eta: lol oh yea humblebrag, not looking anymore
Not exactly. The point was the following question and I provided a bunch of background information that would help determine the answer to the question:
However, am I overestimating the impact of this job opportunity on future employment and personal growth? I am still studying for the LSAT but then again I also recognize that the LSAT is the way to get into law school which is only there to get a legal job. What do you guys think?

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Re: (Paralegal?) Job Offer

Post by chuckbass » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:05 pm

This doesn't sound like a bad job opportunity, but what school you attend and what grades you get will have a much more pronounced effect on your career than this job. I wouldn't start working until you've taken the LSAT (assuming you won't have much time to study with school and work) but after that I think it'd be a good place to get some work experience and start building some connections.

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Re: (Paralegal?) Job Offer

Post by rdawkins28 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:49 pm

Hmm.... he's opening 3 new offices in town?

What kind of work does he do? dwi, property tax protest, speeding ticket?

Project basis? are you teaching all day? when will the legal work fit into your workday?

I'm just trying to picture what kind of work he might have you doing.

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Re: (Paralegal?) Job Offer

Post by WaltGrace83 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:56 pm

rdawkins28 wrote:Hmm.... he's opening 3 new offices in town?

What kind of work does he do? dwi, property tax protest, speeding ticket?

Project basis? are you teaching all day? when will the legal work fit into your workday?

I'm just trying to picture what kind of work he might have you doing.
From the research that I have done on him (I'll PM his information if someone feels like this is necessary), he has done everything from huge class action lawsuits totaling billions of dollars to murder convictions to corporate mergers. He was the senior litigator at the biggest law firm in town.

I am teaching all day but my teaching contract is up in May and it doesn't look like I'll be hired back on (I work at a private school that is hurting for $$ and admissions right now).

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Post by Shakawkaw » Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:39 pm

Given how general the proposal is, it sounds like an invitation to become a sex worker.

OP, you should sieze this opportunity. It will make a killer PS. Let us know how it goes.

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Post by Ron Don Volante » Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:46 pm

What do you mean you're teaching high school writing? Like you're an actual full time teacher at a real school with your own classes, or you work in like a writing resource room or something like that?

If it's the former I don't see how you're not going to look like a huge fuckbag to future employers if you leave during the school year. If it's the latter then yeah I'd probably take this job, though it does sound like a sex worker invitation. I should know.

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Post by rdawkins28 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:08 pm

WaltGrace83 wrote:
rdawkins28 wrote:Hmm.... he's opening 3 new offices in town?

What kind of work does he do? dwi, property tax protest, speeding ticket?

Project basis? are you teaching all day? when will the legal work fit into your workday?

I'm just trying to picture what kind of work he might have you doing.
From the research that I have done on him (I'll PM his information if someone feels like this is necessary), he has done everything from huge class action lawsuits totaling billions of dollars to murder convictions to corporate mergers. He was the senior litigator at the biggest law firm in town.

I am teaching all day but my teaching contract is up in May and it doesn't look like I'll be hired back on (I work at a private school that is hurting for $$ and admissions right now).
I was just curious as to why he's opening 3 offices in the same town. I have friends who work for these mills and they have multiple small offices in the same town. They hire new lawyers for about 35K a year and the lawyers are no more than errand boys. So my fear is that it's one of these operations.

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Re: (Paralegal?) Job Offer

Post by Colonel_funkadunk » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:01 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:Given how general the proposal is, it sounds like an invitation to become a sex worker.

OP, you should sieze this opportunity. It will make a killer PS. Let us know how it goes.
Given the tone of the OP he will be more than happy to share how it goes

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Post by WaltGrace83 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:18 pm

Ron Don Volante wrote:What do you mean you're teaching high school writing? Like you're an actual full time teacher at a real school with your own classes, or you work in like a writing resource room or something like that?

If it's the former I don't see how you're not going to look like a huge fuckbag to future employers if you leave during the school year. If it's the latter then yeah I'd probably take this job, though it does sound like a sex worker invitation. I should know.
I am a full-time teacher with four classes a day. I, of course, would not leave my current employment for this.
rdawkins28 wrote: I was just curious as to why he's opening 3 offices in the same town. I have friends who work for these mills and they have multiple small offices in the same town. They hire new lawyers for about 35K a year and the lawyers are no more than errand boys. So my fear is that it's one of these operations.
Maybe, but I'd doubt it (though I don't really know). He is opening his first one in about two months with plans to have more open up in the future.
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
Given the tone of the OP he will be more than happy to share how it goes
My tone?

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Re: (Paralegal?) Job Offer

Post by appind » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:45 pm

WaltGrace83 wrote:I graduated from uni in May and so I have been teaching high school writing for the past few months. Long story short, I got a phone number of a lawyer in town who worked big law for 6+ years as a trial attorney and now he is opening up three new offices here in town. He called me back and said that he is very interested in my services and he said that he is willing to train me, teach me everything I want to know about the law, and get me to where I need to be because he knows every lawyer in town. He wants to have lunch with me this week to talk numbers but he basically offered me a job and said that I would start out on a project-by-project basis, probably until the end of the school year in which I'd assume he would hire me full time. It sounds like he wants me to write and said that I am "too smart" to be just a secretary.

This sounds like a great opportunity to network and get my feet wet in terms of whether or not law is something that I REALLY want to pursue.

However, am I overestimating the impact of this job opportunity on future employment and personal growth? I am still studying for the LSAT but then again I also recognize that the LSAT is the way to get into law school which is only there to get a legal job. What do you guys think?

EDIT: I guess what I am asking is would this be gainful employment considering that I'd lose hours studying for the LSAT and such.
Which school did the lawyer get his degrees from? What credentials does he have besides having worked biglaw for a few years? Did he talk about compensation?

You may want to look more into whether it would be a good investment of your time to follow this lawyer for one year. Note that what he hasn't offered you full time job yet.

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Re: (Paralegal?) Job Offer

Post by banjo » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:42 am

Unless you're interested in practicing in that town or in that guy's speciality, it doesn't seem worth it. The guy also comes off as a little creepy, but maybe your town is just folksy like that.

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Re: (Paralegal?) Job Offer

Post by pancakes3 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:16 pm

What would you be doing exactly for this project by project, part-time, not-business hours, legal support capacity? You say research but... why? Are you so uniquely valuable with respect to legal research that he just HAS to have you? You're a recently graduated HS english teacher with zero legal experience...

Something sounds off about this.

Regardless, I would just keep plugging away at your day job and study for the LSAT instead of trying to pick up a "legally relevant" part time gig. LSAT trumps all for your admissions odds at this point.

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