LST Job Data (WUSTL / Other Non-Top 14's) Forum

[CFC1524]

Breakdown of WUSTL's employment score on LST (these numbers should be for full-time, long-term positions only):
1. Big Law + Fed Clerk: 32.4%
2. Business: 9.7%
3. Government: 9.3%
4. Law Firm (2-10): 8.7%
5. Law Firm (11-25): 5%

My question is this: what kind of work are students in 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 doing? I made some (slightly) educated guesses, but if anyone has any input it would be appreciated. Trying to decide the merits of attending a top 20 / strong regional on a full scholly. Obviously you need to be okay with not getting biglaw, but, if you are, it seems like you should have some sort of job if you're in the top 50% of your class.

2. Not really sure what "Business" refers to. In-house straight out of law school seems unlikely. Are these just kids working for their dad's local company?
3. Presuming "government" means state and local government? Federal seems like a stretch. Would you need to be a PI gunner to get one of these positions / would being a PI gunner eliminate you from biglaw?
4/5. I'm familiar with the term "small law," but, again, I get the feeling these aren't small litigation boutiques. What kind of law would these firms practice? Personal injury / torts?

I picked WUSTL at random, but I assume schools like UCLA, Vandy, Emory, etc have similar employment numbers. Thanks in advance!
Page where I got the info: http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... yers/2013/

[Crowing]

I believe "business" includes stuff like Starbucks barista

[CFC1524]

I believe "business" includes stuff like Starbucks barista

Ouch - that would be unfortunate haha.

That said, I'm reasonably certain LST uses the "Business" score as part of the overall employment score, and their website says the employment score contains "Bar-Passage Required" jobs only. This would presumably eliminate barista jobs, but, again, I'm not exactly sure what else "Business" could refer to.

[Ricky-Bobby]

The page you linked uses numbers from the employer type section of the ABA report. It does not specify whether the job is bar passage required or not, so the numbers there are not all factored into the LST score. Go to the ABA report format tab to see how these jobs break down according to FTLT and bar passage required.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/washu/ABA/2013/

The info you seem to want comes from the NALP report, which schools are not required to release. LST also does not have c/o 2013's NALP reports yet. To see what one looks like though, here's NU's 2012 NALP page:
http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... yers/2012/

eta: on that NU page you want to look at the tables below the bar graph. those contain nalp data.

[CFC1524]

The page you linked uses numbers from the employer type section of the ABA report. It does not specify whether the job is bar passage required or not, so the numbers there are not all factored into the LST score. Go to the ABA report format tab to see how these jobs break down according to FTLT and bar passage required.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/washu/ABA/2013/

The info you seem to want comes from the NALP report, which schools are not required to release. LST also does not have c/o 2013's NALP reports yet. To see what one looks like though, here's NU's 2012 NALP page:
http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... yers/2012/

eta: on that NU page you want to look at the tables below the bar graph. those contain nalp data.

Great - thanks for the clarification / info.

NU's NALP report indicates most of the "Business" jobs are JD-perferred, not JD-required. Good to know, especially if this is true for most of the other schools.

Do you know anything about the 2-25 size law firms listed in the raw data section? Trying to figure out what type of law (personal injury?) they focus on and if they would attend OCI.

[Ricky-Bobby]

It's important to note that [allegedly] a good number of NU's "business" jobs are legitimate positions, as opposed to some other schools where the "business" category is a placeholder for any and all professional jobs. That's one reason why NU releases their NALP report– they want to emphasize this.

I'd imagine the 2-25 attorney firms practice anything and everything. That category would include all of the small town and small firms in the country. If you go to work at Uncle Joe's slip-and-fall shop, you'd be included in that category. I doubt any of these show up to school OCIs, but that's a question better suited for someone who's actually in law school right now.