JD --> work in Lat. Amer? Forum

getsemani · Post by **getsemani** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:06 pm

I want to study law. I also want to live and work in Latin America. I understand that if I do as well as I hope to do in law school, I will have a better chance of working for a firm that has offices in Brazil, Colombia, etc.

Is this realistic? Is there a demand for JDs in Latin America?

If you think so, what do you think about doing a dual JD + MA in Latin American Studies? If not, which academic path would you suggest in order to achieve my goal of working for an international firm in Latin America?

Danteshek · Post by **Danteshek** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:43 pm

Go to law school in Latin America...

AriGoldButNicer · Post by **AriGoldButNicer** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:57 pm

getsemani wrote:I want to study law. I also want to live and work in Latin America. I understand that if I do as well as I hope to do in law school, I will have a better chance of working for a firm that has offices in Brazil, Colombia, etc.

Is this realistic? Is there a demand for JDs in Latin America?

If you think so, what do you think about doing a dual JD + MA in Latin American Studies? If not, which academic path would you suggest in order to achieve my goal of working for an international firm in Latin America?

There's always a demand for people who know nonapplicable laws in a given country. We even have a demand for JD's fluent in gibberish and gulla-gulla.

getsemani · Post by **getsemani** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:05 pm

AriGoldButNicer wrote:
getsemani wrote:I want to study law. I also want to live and work in Latin America. I understand that if I do as well as I hope to do in law school, I will have a better chance of working for a firm that has offices in Brazil, Colombia, etc.

Is this realistic? Is there a demand for JDs in Latin America?

If you think so, what do you think about doing a dual JD + MA in Latin American Studies? If not, which academic path would you suggest in order to achieve my goal of working for an international firm in Latin America?
There's always a demand for people who know nonapplicable laws in a given country. We even have a demand for JD's fluent in gibberish and gulla-gulla.

Next.

AriGoldButNicer · Post by **AriGoldButNicer** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:07 pm

getsemani wrote:
AriGoldButNicer wrote:
getsemani wrote:I want to study law. I also want to live and work in Latin America. I understand that if I do as well as I hope to do in law school, I will have a better chance of working for a firm that has offices in Brazil, Colombia, etc.

Is this realistic? Is there a demand for JDs in Latin America?

If you think so, what do you think about doing a dual JD + MA in Latin American Studies? If not, which academic path would you suggest in order to achieve my goal of working for an international firm in Latin America?
There's always a demand for people who know nonapplicable laws in a given country. We even have a demand for JD's fluent in gibberish and gulla-gulla.
Next.

You're just too dumb to answer seriously. My apologies, and best of luck bro.

Veyron · Post by **Veyron** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:09 pm

Danteshek wrote:Go to law school in Latin America...

Ummmmm, duh. This is like asking if a Peruvian trained lawyer has a good shot at working in the US.

AriGoldButNicer · Post by **AriGoldButNicer** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:10 pm

Veyron wrote:
Danteshek wrote:Go to law school in Latin America...
Ummmmm, duh.

Yo, that's not the kind of answer he was looking for. Find facts rhat support the bs he wants to hear. Next!

Danteshek · Post by **Danteshek** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:24 pm

Veyron wrote:
Danteshek wrote:Go to law school in Latin America...
Ummmmm, duh. This is like asking if a Peruvian trained lawyer has a good shot at working in the US.

Oh. I assumed he has the requisite language skills. After all, he is asking about practicing law in Latin America.

getsemani · Post by **getsemani** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:26 pm

AriGoldButNicer wrote:
getsemani wrote:
AriGoldButNicer wrote:
getsemani wrote:I want to study law. I also want to live and work in Latin America. I understand that if I do as well as I hope to do in law school, I will have a better chance of working for a firm that has offices in Brazil, Colombia, etc.

Is this realistic? Is there a demand for JDs in Latin America?

If you think so, what do you think about doing a dual JD + MA in Latin American Studies? If not, which academic path would you suggest in order to achieve my goal of working for an international firm in Latin America?
There's always a demand for people who know nonapplicable laws in a given country. We even have a demand for JD's fluent in gibberish and gulla-gulla.
Next.
You're just too dumb to answer seriously. My apologies, and best of luck bro.

I'm asking a question because I'm starting my research on the possibility of a career practicing law in a specific part of the world that I am interested in. On the internet I've found several international organizations that hire lawyers for their offices around Latin America (among other areas). These organizations are the UN, the WWF, among many other NGOs and IGOs. My assumption was that I could have a better chance of working for such organizations with a law degree from a respected school in the US.

Regarding the comment about language skills: Yes, I'm fluent in Spanish and Portuguese.

AriGold: You call me dumb? Based on what? You don't know a thing about me. First you posted a useless response, then an insult, and finally, an apology while calling me your "bro". You're a moron.

getsemani · Post by **getsemani** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:28 pm

So, given that I am pursuing the path of a JD, does anyone have a suggestion regarding a route that I could take that would best prepare me for my career goal?

AriGoldButNicer · Post by **AriGoldButNicer** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:40 pm

getsemani wrote:So, given that I am pursuing the path of a JD, does anyone have a suggestion regarding a route that I could take that would best prepare me for my career goal?

That's like saying now that i am going to baseball school, how do i become a football player?

I called you an idiot because you have a stupid idea, have been told by multiple sources it's stupid yet say you are going full fledged according to the stupid plan, and persist in asking for advise when none exists. It's like going to dental school to be a cardiologist, straight up immature life planning. I'll leave you be, but why would you learn American law for a foreign country? Just don't blame other religions, cultures, governments, etc. if you find yourself occupying wall street in the future. It'll be this stupid decision.

Post by **dailygrind** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:51 pm

I assume it's possible. People get JDs then work in China on corporate stuff, and Brazil's a pretty significant economic entity. Maybe you could look at international firms with offices in Brazil, then stalk the bios of young associates to get an idea of how they got there.

ETA: this is private practice advice. Not PI related. I have no idea what goes on in the PI world.

illini22 · Post by **illini22** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:52 pm

It can be done, it is hard because they usually prefer to have someone with a local degree with an LLM. But depending on the jurisdiction, you might be able to also bar in the local country. I think in Peru is fairly easy to bar. Brazil only allows you as a "foreign consultant" but there are plenty of American firms with offices in Sao paulo and buenos aires. One avenue could be to work at an int'l firm with offices in those countries here in the US first and then request the transfer. For instance, look at Cleary's new sao paulo office. All of the lawyers there are purely US grads and I think all started first in the NYC office.

Veyron · Post by **Veyron** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:53 pm

I'm asking a question because I'm starting my research on the possibility of a career practicing law in a specific part of the world that I am interested in. On the internet I've found several international organizations that hire lawyers for their offices around Latin America (among other areas). These organizations are the UN, the WWF, among many other NGOs and IGOs. My assumption was that I could have a better chance of working for such organizations with a law degree from a respected school in the US.

Regarding the comment about language skills: Yes, I'm fluent in Spanish and Portuguese.

AriGold: You call me dumb? Based on what? You don't know a thing about me. First you posted a useless response, then an insult, and finally, an apology while calling me your "bro". You're a moron.

Oh, the old International Law flame, we fell for the oldest trick in the book.

*Kicks self*

AreJay711 · Post by **AreJay711** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:55 pm

It is not impossible but certainly not worth the money.

Renzo · Post by **Renzo** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:58 pm

dailygrind wrote:I assume it's possible. People get JDs then work in China on corporate stuff, and Brazil's a pretty significant economic entity. Maybe you could look at international firms with offices in Brazil, then stalk the bios of young associates to get an idea of how they got there.

Actually, Brazil and (mainland) China are bad examples, because they both make it exceedingly difficult for foreign attorneys to work there. There are almost no global firms with presence in Brazil beyond loose affiliations with local firms.

tyro · Post by **tyro** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:11 pm

AriGoldButNicer wrote:
getsemani wrote:So, given that I am pursuing the path of a JD, does anyone have a suggestion regarding a route that I could take that would best prepare me for my career goal?
That's like saying now that i am going to baseball school, how do i become a football player?

I called you an idiot because you have a stupid idea, have been told by multiple sources it's stupid yet say you are going full fledged according to the stupid plan, and persist in asking for advise when none exists. It's like going to dental school to be a cardiologist, straight up immature life planning. I'll leave you be, but why would you learn American law for a foreign country? Just don't blame other religions, cultures, governments, etc. if you find yourself occupying wall street in the future. It'll be this stupid decision.

Why are you so mad though?

AriGoldButNicer · Post by **AriGoldButNicer** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:18 pm

tyro wrote:
AriGoldButNicer wrote:
getsemani wrote:So, given that I am pursuing the path of a JD, does anyone have a suggestion regarding a route that I could take that would best prepare me for my career goal?
That's like saying now that i am going to baseball school, how do i become a football player?

I called you an idiot because you have a stupid idea, have been told by multiple sources it's stupid yet say you are going full fledged according to the stupid plan, and persist in asking for advise when none exists. It's like going to dental school to be a cardiologist, straight up immature life planning. I'll leave you be, but why would you learn American law for a foreign country? Just don't blame other religions, cultures, governments, etc. if you find yourself occupying wall street in the future. It'll be this stupid decision.
Why are you so mad though?

Hipsters.

expelliarmus · Post by **expelliarmus** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:31 pm

I don't think it will be impossible. And in some cases, it will be worth the money.
Since I am from China, and there are a lot of opportunities in China that allows me to work for American firms/companies with Chinese offices/headquarters. And there are many opportunities involving Chinese companies merging American companies, or IPO opportunities in America (i.e. NASDAQ).
That said, Brazil (or parts of Latin America) is also an emerging market (part of BRIC), so I think there will be similar opportunities there. And I assure you that those opportunities will require that you stay at least part-time in Brazil - if not all the time.
However, note that I am a native speaker of Chinese - so I am not sure if those kinds of jobs will require you to have a high level of fluency in the language plus a very deep understanding of the local culture. If that is the case, then you might want to do more research into those positions.

That said, it is definitely something to look into. However, as many other posters have mentioned, you might want to acquire another equivalent of JD of the local market (say Brazil local market) after some years of work experience. It all depends on your passion, work requirements, and life plan.

Veyron · Post by **Veyron** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:37 pm

expelliarmus wrote:I don't think it will be impossible. Since I am from China, and there are a lot of opportunities in China that works for American firms/companies with China offices/headquarters. And there are many opportunities involving Chinese companies merging American companies, or Chinese companies' IPO in NASDAQ, for instance.
That said, Brazil and Argentina are also emerging markets (part of BRIC), so I think there will be similar opportunities there.
However, note that I am Chinese - so I am not sure if those kind of jobs will require you to have a high level of fluency in the language and also a very deep understanding of the local culture. If that is the case, then you might want to do more research into those positions.

China is a bad example. There are some U.S. and global firms with offices in HK (and a few more in Shanghai) but you'll be practicing US law from what I understand and basically doing corporate stuff for multinationals with a presence in the region.

Not going to find a whole lot of V100s in Quito or even Mexico City.

Of course, OP doesn't sound like he wants to do corporate law to begin with.

Miami? · Post by **Miami?** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:26 pm

Universidad de los Andes in Colombia is apparently excellent. I know an American who opted for that instead of US JD and is now at UN.

Leaborb192 · Post by **Leaborb192** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:58 am

getsemani wrote:I want to study law. I also want to live and work in Latin America. I understand that if I do as well as I hope to do in law school, I will have a better chance of working for a firm that has offices in Brazil, Colombia, etc.

Is this realistic? Is there a demand for JDs in Latin America?

If you think so, what do you think about doing a dual JD + MA in Latin American Studies? If not, which academic path would you suggest in order to achieve my goal of working for an international firm in Latin America?

You and I need to talk! I'm a Spanish major and I too would like to get a dual degree in the same area. I was looking around at schools and I've found one that I'm going to look into: Florida International University. It offers a JD and Master's in Latin American and Caribbean Studies.

Interested? I suggest you check it out too: http://law.fiu.edu/academic-information ... -programs/
http://casgroup.fiu.edu/lacc/

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:02 am

Leaborb192 wrote:
getsemani wrote:I want to study law. I also want to live and work in Latin America. I understand that if I do as well as I hope to do in law school, I will have a better chance of working for a firm that has offices in Brazil, Colombia, etc.

Is this realistic? Is there a demand for JDs in Latin America?

If you think so, what do you think about doing a dual JD + MA in Latin American Studies? If not, which academic path would you suggest in order to achieve my goal of working for an international firm in Latin America?

You and I need to talk! I'm a Spanish major and I too would like to get a dual degree in the same area. I was looking around at schools and I've found one that I'm going to look into: Florida International University. It offers a JD and Master's in Latin American and Caribbean Studies.

Interested? I suggest you check it out too: http://law.fiu.edu/academic-information ... -programs/

Bad idea, but you're not gonna listen anyway.

Leaborb192 · Post by **Leaborb192** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:04 am

Grizz wrote:
Leaborb192 wrote:
getsemani wrote:I want to study law. I also want to live and work in Latin America. I understand that if I do as well as I hope to do in law school, I will have a better chance of working for a firm that has offices in Brazil, Colombia, etc.

Is this realistic? Is there a demand for JDs in Latin America?

If you think so, what do you think about doing a dual JD + MA in Latin American Studies? If not, which academic path would you suggest in order to achieve my goal of working for an international firm in Latin America?

You and I need to talk! I'm a Spanish major and I too would like to get a dual degree in the same area. I was looking around at schools and I've found one that I'm going to look into: Florida International University. It offers a JD and Master's in Latin American and Caribbean Studies.

Interested? I suggest you check it out too: http://law.fiu.edu/academic-information ... -programs/
Bad idea, but you're not gonna listen anyway.

What's a bad idea? Dual degree? or the school? And I'm not just going to take someone's advice without investigating a little.

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:12 am

Both.

Joint degrees aren't that useful, and FIU is bad and may lead to extreme joblessness

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