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What kind of job experience is necessary for someone like me

Post by apandey » Tue May 24, 2011 8:01 pm

To be more specific, I don't really have any desire to actually practice law. Rather, I'm more interested in pursuing a JD/MBA type degree. I would like to start my own business that focuses primarily on those diagnosed with ADHD. However, given the fact I'm diagnosed with ADHD myself, it is possible that I may quickly change gears and devote myself to pursuing another interest and/or career field. But that's a different topic for discussion.

I'm planning on taking the LSAT in October and I got a 157 on the last practice test I took. I'm aiming for a score of at least 170. While I would like to attend a Top 10 law school, I'm more reasonably aiming to attend a Top 20 law school since I graduated college last May with a 3.2 GPA.

As for my current job experience, I'm a volunteer after-school tutor (I was also a volunteer TA and Research Assistant back in college) and there are a couple of open positions not too far from where I live and that deal mainly with administrative-type work. I know it's not the most ideal, but it is better than nothing. Furthermore, and this could be a bit of wishful thinking on my part, but I think that if I were to get this job, it could have some impact on my chances of getting into a satisfactory law school. At the same time, though, there's also the unfortunate chance that I may not get it. Btw, I think it's worth noting that I've never actually held a real job before. Given my ADHD diagnosis, it was very difficult for me to successfully balance both academics and job hunting in college. But, nevertheless, I still remain hopeful and optimistic.

So given all that information, and assuming that I get a score of 170 or better come October, what kind of advice would you give/suggest/recommend in regards to the Job Experience portion of all this? I'm actually considering about going ahead and starting my own business as almost like a "last resort" if I can't find a job by next spring or next summer. I greatly appreciate any helpful and encouraging advice here. Thanks a lot!

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Re: What kind of job experience is necessary for someone like me

Post by fatduck » Tue May 24, 2011 8:03 pm

do you have a specific good or service your business would provide, beyond just "focusing on ADHD?"

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Post by apandey » Tue May 24, 2011 8:10 pm

fatduck wrote:do you have a specific good or service your business would provide, beyond just "focusing on ADHD?"
Right now, I would like to focus more on college students, or soon to be college students, who are diagnosed with ADHD since there aren't a lot of colleges out there that devote services and resources specifically for those who are diagnosed with the disorder. Secondly, there is a bit of a personal side to this..

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Post by fatduck » Tue May 24, 2011 8:11 pm

i guess what i'm getting at is: what would your business do, how would it make money, and how will a JD or JD/MBA degree help you?

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Post by FeelTheHeat » Tue May 24, 2011 8:26 pm

fatduck wrote:i guess what i'm getting at is: what would your business do, how would it make money, and how will a JD or JD/MBA degree help you?
You've been unusually helpful lately broseph, what gives?

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Post by apandey » Tue May 24, 2011 8:38 pm

fatduck wrote:i guess what i'm getting at is: what would your business do, how would it make money, and how will a JD or JD/MBA degree help you?
I think the main goal with this business is basically to provide services, advice, and consultation to college students with ADHD. Like I said, there really aren't colleges that cater to them and they end up either dropping out or not making the absolute most of their college experience. With my business, I want to provide services that will help out these students and give them tips and advice on what kind of strategies they can utilize to successfully balance most, if not all, aspects of the college experience. Not all college students with ADHD are the same. So, therefore, I think it's necessary that one of the services I would like to provide to these students is a staff of educational psychologists who are extremely knowledgeable about ADHD and will listen to how exactly their ADHD influences their day-to-day lives in college. From that point, the educational psychologist will make a thorough evaluation and assessment of that student's report, and will provide a timely response that will inform the student on what specific strategies he or she could implement. These strategies are to help the student make the most out of college.

I also want to provide monthly follow-up sessions for these students. The purpose of these sessions will be to evaluate the student's progress and see how well these students are utilizing the strategies suggested to them. Modifications will be made if necessary, if the psychologist feels, in his or her best judgment and professional opinion, that the student would benefit from using strategies that are better and/or more thorough. Once again, the purpose of this business is to make sure college students with ADHD are successful in a wide range of facets relating to the college experience. I want these students to graduate with a sense of pride and accomplishment and not with a sense of regret and hopelessness. I really do believe that it has the potential to be a profitable venture. As for your 3rd question, I can see how a MBA would be beneficial here but, to be honest, I haven't fully thought through about the JD part. I need to do more research on that.

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Post by fatduck » Tue May 24, 2011 8:51 pm

sounds pretty interesting, but i have a hard time seeing why a JD or MBA degree would really be necessary. if this is something you have a passion for and you have an entrepreneurial itch, i think the best advice is to just give it a try.
FeelTheHeat wrote:
fatduck wrote:i guess what i'm getting at is: what would your business do, how would it make money, and how will a JD or JD/MBA degree help you?
You've been unusually helpful lately broseph, what gives?
i actually think i'm one of the more helpful posters on this site :D

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Post by glitter178 » Tue May 24, 2011 8:52 pm

i'm going to be the one to do it? Really?


COME BACK WITH A REAL LSAT SCORE.

Oh, and get higher than a 170 with that GPA.

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Post by 09042014 » Tue May 24, 2011 9:00 pm

Seems like a stupid way to blow 300,000 in tuition.

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Post by Renzo » Tue May 24, 2011 9:12 pm

This thread is such a flame my computer just caught fire and burned a hole through my desk.

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Post by fatduck » Tue May 24, 2011 9:14 pm

Renzo wrote:This thread is such a flame my computer just caught fire and burned a hole through my desk.
i think you need to recalibrate your sensors

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Post by Renzo » Tue May 24, 2011 9:16 pm

fatduck wrote:
Renzo wrote:This thread is such a flame my computer just caught fire and burned a hole through my desk.
i think you need to recalibrate your sensors
We'll see; you could be right. I'll admit it's pretty elaborate. But I've seen some elaborate flames 'round these parts before.

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Post by crossarmant » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:38 pm

fatduck wrote:sounds pretty interesting, but i have a hard time seeing why a JD or MBA degree would really be necessary. if this is something you have a passion for and you have an entrepreneurial itch, i think the best advice is to just give it a try.
I completely agree. I'm failing to see how a JD would help you in this, especially if you don't want to practice law in any form. It seems like a great way to waste a lot of money. Maybe an MBA might be a tad useful, but a JD just seems like a waste of time and money. You especially do not want to commit yourself to all the money and time that law school requires if "it is possible that [you] may quickly change gears and devote [your]self to pursuing another interest and/or career field."

Also, not to knock you or your ADHD, but if you have a hard time concentrating enough to secure work while in undergrad or focus on anything as much as you say 170 is incredibly ambitious.

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Post by flcath » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:37 pm

apandey wrote:However, given the fact I'm diagnosed with ADHD myself, it is possible that I may quickly change gears and devote myself to pursuing another interest and/or career field.
This was kinda funny.

To make this flame truly 180, you should change career goals entirely on midway through page 2 of this thread.

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Post by geoduck » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:54 pm

As a person diagnosed with ADHD...
apandey wrote:focuses primarily on those diagnosed with ADHD.
:lol: focused on ADHD

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Post by blsingindisguise » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:24 pm

apandey wrote:
I'm planning on taking the LSAT in October and I got a 157 on the last practice test I took. I'm aiming for a score of at least 170. While I would like to attend a Top 10 law school, I'm more reasonably aiming to attend a Top 20 law school since I graduated college last May with a 3.2 GPA.

Ok, stop there. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Highly unrealistic.

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Post by stylishlaw » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:49 pm

blsingindisguise wrote:
apandey wrote:
I'm planning on taking the LSAT in October and I got a 157 on the last practice test I took. I'm aiming for a score of at least 170. While I would like to attend a Top 10 law school, I'm more reasonably aiming to attend a Top 20 law school since I graduated college last May with a 3.2 GPA.

Ok, stop there. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Highly unrealistic.

I don't see why. If he can score 170 he would be in at WUSTL and possibly somewhere 15-18. I scored like crap in diagnostics and was scoring 174-178 leading up to my exams. Definitely doable although you might have to take the December test.

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Post by blsingindisguise » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:05 pm

stylishlaw wrote:
blsingindisguise wrote:
apandey wrote:
I'm planning on taking the LSAT in October and I got a 157 on the last practice test I took. I'm aiming for a score of at least 170. While I would like to attend a Top 10 law school, I'm more reasonably aiming to attend a Top 20 law school since I graduated college last May with a 3.2 GPA.

Ok, stop there. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Highly unrealistic.

I don't see why. If he can score 170 he would be in at WUSTL and possibly somewhere 15-18. I scored like crap in diagnostics and was scoring 174-178 leading up to my exams. Definitely doable although you might have to take the December test.
Possible? Sure. But talking about what you "aim" to get is meaningless. He might get a 175, he might get a 160. Meanwhile I don't even get why he wants a JD.

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Post by geoduck » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:11 pm

blsingindisguise wrote:
stylishlaw wrote:
blsingindisguise wrote:
apandey wrote:
I'm planning on taking the LSAT in October and I got a 157 on the last practice test I took. I'm aiming for a score of at least 170. While I would like to attend a Top 10 law school, I'm more reasonably aiming to attend a Top 20 law school since I graduated college last May with a 3.2 GPA.

Ok, stop there. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Highly unrealistic.

I don't see why. If he can score 170 he would be in at WUSTL and possibly somewhere 15-18. I scored like crap in diagnostics and was scoring 174-178 leading up to my exams. Definitely doable although you might have to take the December test.
Possible? Sure. But talking about what you "aim" to get is meaningless. He might get a 175, he might get a 160. Meanwhile I don't even get why he wants a JD.
Cause esquire sounds badass.

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Post by BeaverHunter » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:55 am

apandey wrote:
I'm planning on taking the LSAT in October and I got a 157 on the last practice test I took. I'm aiming for a score of at least 170. While I would like to attend a Top 10 law school, I'm more reasonably aiming to attend a Top 20 law school since I graduated college last May with a 3.2 GPA.


So given all that information, and assuming that I get a score of 170 or better come October, what kind of advice would you give/suggest/recommend in regards to the Job Experience portion of all this? I'm actually considering about going ahead and starting my own business as almost like a "last resort" if I can't find a job by next spring or next summer. I greatly appreciate any helpful and encouraging advice here. Thanks a lot!
That's a hell of an assumption. You probably won't crack top 20, no offense but its the truth. Since you aren't planning on using your JD you should go to the highest ranked school that offers you a ride.

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Post by oldhippie » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:59 am

why not become a psychologist? you can do a lot more in the field of ADHD with that than with a JD....get a business background if you want, but i don't see how a JD would be much help...

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Post by cinephile » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:19 am

I have to echo what the other posters are saying, you don't need a JD for this type of business -- it has nothing to do with law and a JD is an expensive degree that's only really useful if you're practicing law.

I'm not sure that you need an MBA either, unless you want to cover your bases in case you change your career goals and want to go into some other sort of business. However, to get into an MBA program, you generally do need work experience. Of course, now that you're done with college and don't have to struggle with juggling school and work, you're completely free and can start getting the necessary work experience.

As far as admissions consulting goes, you could start that business right now. I have a couple of friends who do this for undergrad admissions -- granted, it's not as specific as your goals of aiding ADD students, but it's still not too difficult to start up. They started by tutoring for SAT/ACT and then just expanded it.

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