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Post by Bumi » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:32 pm

I would like to humbly request that this thread continue as scheduled, but also consider the additional purchases someone might have to make if they were moving from the south to the north.

I have no technology in my entire wardrobe that could make a suit warmer if it is 3 degrees outside. What do I need?

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Post by camelcrema » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:35 pm

Bumi wrote:I would like to humbly request that this thread continue as scheduled, but also consider the additional purchases someone might have to make if they were moving from the south to the north.

I have no technology in my entire wardrobe that could make a suit warmer if it is 3 degrees outside. What do I need?

+1 for someone moving from California to New York.

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Post by Ty Webb » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:41 pm

Bumi wrote:I would like to humbly request that this thread continue as scheduled, but also consider the additional purchases someone might have to make if they were moving from the south to the north.

I have no technology in my entire wardrobe that could make a suit warmer if it is 3 degrees outside. What do I need?
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Post by nealric » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:43 pm

Bare essentials?

Three pairs of underwear
Three T-shirts
Two pairs of shorts
Two pairs of pants
A pair of shoes
A pair of flipflops
A coat of some sort if in cold climate
Three pairs of socks
One suit + accouterments

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Post by neonx » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:13 am

Tagging this.

I need major tie-tying tutorials. The ones I've found are pretty basic. I wanna try something more ambitious & elegant.

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Post by mrtoren » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:43 am

neonx wrote:Tagging this.

I need major tie-tying tutorials. The ones I've found are pretty basic. I wanna try something more ambitious & elegant.
http://www.brooksbrothers.com/tieknots/tieknots.tem

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Post by blsingindisguise » Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:54 am

I wouldn't buy your interview suits before starting 1L. Whatever interviews you have will come towards the end of 1L, and you want to buy the suit a little closer to the interviews (maybe over winter break - great sales around then) so that you have it altered to fit your weight at the time (which may change due to law school stress). I'd say have one good charcoal or navy suit going in, a few ties, a few white or solid light blue dress shirts, three or four ties, a few business casual dress shirts and a pair or two of business casual slacks. Maybe a sportcoat if that's how you roll, but it's not essential. There aren't tons of formal events 1L year -- maybe you'll occasionally go to a firm mixer or two but otherwise you'll be in jeans and sweatshirts holed up in the library.

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Post by Voltaire » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:45 am

As far as suits go, Men's Wearhouse has a buy one get one for $100 going on right now. If you wait until next month, it'll probably be buy one get on free. They tailor your suit for free. You can pretty easily walk away with two not horrible suits for under $500. You also get a $50 store credit when you spend over $500. Perfect for loading up on ties or picking up something else you think you'll need.

They probably won't be the kind you'll want when you're a partner, but no one expects you to wear a monocle or anything right now. If you go with a flat front slack/two button suit, you really can't go wrong. It's sort of blasphemy to make it out of college without a suit anyway. You need one. Someone mentioned Lauren by RL, and I just got a couple of those last month when MW had the buy one/free option.

If you're super poor, keep an eye out at Goodwill or other second hand stores. If you find something decent and in your size, you can have it tailored to look decent. I knew a few guys in my fraternity that had pretty ok looking suits for under $30. But it can be hit and miss depending on where you live.

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Post by Voltaire » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:47 am

neonx wrote:Tagging this.

I need major tie-tying tutorials. The ones I've found are pretty basic. I wanna try something more ambitious & elegant.
The four in hand method is all you need unless you're a lottery pick in the NBA draft.

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Post by Veyron » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:51 am

Macys for suits? For the love of all that is holy no.

Get some sweat pants, get some T-shirts, spend the rest on 2 good suits some quality dress shirts etc. No one cares what you wear to class, what you wear to receptions and interviews is far more important.

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Post by Capitol A » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:55 am

Veyron wrote:Macys for suits? For the love of all that is holy no.

Get some sweat pants, get some T-shirts, spend the rest on 2 good suits some quality dress shirts etc. No one cares what you wear to class, what you wear to receptions and interviews is far more important.
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Post by blsingindisguise » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:11 pm

Also if you wait til winter break and you're willing to shell out, you can pick up a Brooks Bros suit for around $500 and the non-iron dress shirts for about $40-50 each. A BB suit is not essential while you're still a student, but it's a great interview suit if you can afford it. Otherwise you can certainly get away with a Men's Wearhouse suit. I also noticed that Lord & Taylor had some pretty good suits on sale for $250-300. Don't know how often they do the sale. The Brooks Brothers shirts are worth it imo because they last much longer and don't get as wrinkled as the crummy ones from Macy's.

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Post by Veyron » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:37 pm

Capitol A wrote:
Veyron wrote:Macys for suits? For the love of all that is holy no.

Get some sweat pants, get some T-shirts, spend the rest on 2 good suits some quality dress shirts etc. No one cares what you wear to class, what you wear to receptions and interviews is far more important.
TITCR.
Spend good money on the stuff that matters. Don't worry about the rest of your clothes.
Yah, I bought a suit at Macys as a back-up suit. It looks ok now but I spent almost as much as the suit cost on tailoring. I can tell the damn things going to fall apart in a year, its already got loose threads, etc.

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Post by kehoema2 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:02 pm

Thanks, this is some good info.

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Post by Capitol A » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:17 pm

Veyron wrote:
Capitol A wrote:
Veyron wrote:Macys for suits? For the love of all that is holy no.

Get some sweat pants, get some T-shirts, spend the rest on 2 good suits some quality dress shirts etc. No one cares what you wear to class, what you wear to receptions and interviews is far more important.
TITCR.
Spend good money on the stuff that matters. Don't worry about the rest of your clothes.
Yah, I bought a suit at Macys as a back-up suit. It looks ok now but I spent almost as much as the suit cost on tailoring. I can tell the damn things going to fall apart in a year, its already got loose threads, etc.
IMO, tough to beat J.Crew for the quality/$, and their fits are pretty solid off the rack (at least for me).

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Post by clintonius » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:25 pm

Voltaire wrote:As far as suits go, Men's Wearhouse has a buy one get one for $100 going on right now. If you wait until next month, it'll probably be buy one get on free. They tailor your suit for free. You can pretty easily walk away with two not horrible suits for under $500. You also get a $50 store credit when you spend over $500. Perfect for loading up on ties or picking up something else you think you'll need.
In general I tell people to stay away from Men's Wearhouse. Their alterations are not free unless the policy has changed since I bought a suit there (admittedly back in '07). It was around $350 to start and wound up about $500 when they were done with alterations. If they do still make you pay for tailoring, the buy-one-get-one-for-X deal will double up those costs. My experience with the salesman and tailor (who did a poor job) was also not good, though that will vary by location.

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Post by Veyron » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:30 pm

clintonius wrote:
Voltaire wrote:As far as suits go, Men's Wearhouse has a buy one get one for $100 going on right now. If you wait until next month, it'll probably be buy one get on free. They tailor your suit for free. You can pretty easily walk away with two not horrible suits for under $500. You also get a $50 store credit when you spend over $500. Perfect for loading up on ties or picking up something else you think you'll need.
In general I tell people to stay away from Men's Wearhouse. Their alterations are not free unless the policy has changed since I bought a suit there (admittedly back in '07). It was around $350 to start and wound up about $500 when they were done with alterations. If they do still make you pay for tailoring, the buy-one-get-one-for-X deal will double up those costs. My experience with the salesman and tailor (who did a poor job) was also not good, though that will vary by location.
You shouldn't be getting your suit tailored at Men's Wharehouse anyway. If you live in a big city, there are these people called, hmmmmm, oh, TAILORS. They are the ones you want to be taking a suit to after you buy it.

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Post by lukebyalibi » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:51 pm

I plan on packing around 7 different color banana-hammocks just so I know what day it is.

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Post by Capitol A » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:59 pm

lukebyalibi wrote:I plan on packing around 7 different color banana-hammocks just so I know what day it is.
you could also buy the ones that have the day of the week printed on the back.
while I admire your integration of the term "banana hammock," I much prefer "grape smugglers"

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Post by lukebyalibi » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:02 pm

Capitol A wrote:
lukebyalibi wrote:I plan on packing around 7 different color banana-hammocks just so I know what day it is.
you could also buy the ones that have the day of the week printed on the back.
while I admire your integration of the term "banana hammock," I much prefer "grape smugglers"
I believe the terms are interchangeable. I have not found the day of the week ones yet! Hmnnn custom made ones! Screw law school I am starting a business with this!!

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Post by Capitol A » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:07 pm

lukebyalibi wrote:
Capitol A wrote:
lukebyalibi wrote:I plan on packing around 7 different color banana-hammocks just so I know what day it is.
you could also buy the ones that have the day of the week printed on the back.
while I admire your integration of the term "banana hammock," I much prefer "grape smugglers"
I believe the terms are interchangeable. I have not found the day of the week ones yet! Hmnnn custom made ones! Screw law school I am starting a business with this!!
My wife has underwear with the days of the week on them. came from UrbanOutfitters. Of course, those are neither banana hammocks nor grape smugglers.

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Post by geoduck » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:43 pm

Bumi wrote:I would like to humbly request that this thread continue as scheduled, but also consider the additional purchases someone might have to make if they were moving from the south to the north.

I have no technology in my entire wardrobe that could make a suit warmer if it is 3 degrees outside. What do I need?
First, you need a good overcoat. Beyond that, good thermal underwear is important. They aren't the long-johns your grandpappy wore. Now you can get tights and shirts that keep a lot of warmth in while adding no bulk and still breathing. I like Underarmour myself.

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Post by clintonius » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:04 pm

Veyron wrote:
clintonius wrote:
Voltaire wrote:As far as suits go, Men's Wearhouse has a buy one get one for $100 going on right now. If you wait until next month, it'll probably be buy one get on free. They tailor your suit for free. You can pretty easily walk away with two not horrible suits for under $500. You also get a $50 store credit when you spend over $500. Perfect for loading up on ties or picking up something else you think you'll need.
In general I tell people to stay away from Men's Wearhouse. Their alterations are not free unless the policy has changed since I bought a suit there (admittedly back in '07). It was around $350 to start and wound up about $500 when they were done with alterations. If they do still make you pay for tailoring, the buy-one-get-one-for-X deal will double up those costs. My experience with the salesman and tailor (who did a poor job) was also not good, though that will vary by location.
You shouldn't be getting your suit tailored at Men's Wharehouse anyway. If you live in a big city, there are these people called, hmmmmm, oh, TAILORS. They are the ones you want to be taking a suit to after you buy it.
oh, I agree. I thought the alterations were included with the suit. Had I known they were extra I would've just gotten a real suit somewhere.

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Post by YaSvoboden » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:08 pm

geoduck wrote:
Bumi wrote:I would like to humbly request that this thread continue as scheduled, but also consider the additional purchases someone might have to make if they were moving from the south to the north.

I have no technology in my entire wardrobe that could make a suit warmer if it is 3 degrees outside. What do I need?
First, you need a good overcoat. Beyond that, good thermal underwear is important. They aren't the long-johns your grandpappy wore. Now you can get tights and shirts that keep a lot of warmth in while adding no bulk and still breathing. I like Underarmour myself.
I like underarmor coldgear a lot for the bottoms, but when I tried the tops with them I would be far too warm inside. I know they have different levels of insulation and I don't remember which one I had, perhaps a lite one would do better. Either way, the coat should keep your upper body plenty warm outside.

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