Law School Employment Stats Forum

[Interminable_Waiting]

Hi.

Someone posted a decent collection of law school employment statistics within the last few months. It attempted to combine clerkships + NLJ250. I liked it, although it started agreat deal of debate. I woud like to show it to people.

I cannot find it. I searched. Help please with a link.

[Stringer Bell]

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=108528

I think this is what you are looking for. 2008 clerkship numbers were combined with 2009 NLJ 250 data since 2009 clerkship data is not available. A contentious debate ensued centered around whether or not that was appropriate or useful. There was quite a bit of trolling as well.

[Interminable_Waiting]

Yup that was it. Thanks a lot.

There was also an chart I saw on here or through a link which showed where all of the graduates of the top 20 or so,or maybe more, law schools ended up, by horizontal lines (the % in NLJ 250, in clerkships, in gov't, in "business," etc...).

I don't remember if it was from the NLJ, NALP, or somewhere else.

[bk1]

2008? Data - http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/composite.pdf (from http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNL ... hbxlogin=1) - I think this is the bar data you are looking for.

2005 Data - http://www.law.com/pdf/nlj/20080414empl ... trends.pdf (Oh the good ol' days.)

2009 NLJ250 Data - http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/law%20sc ... page12.pdf

[Interminable_Waiting]

Nice. Thanks.

I like the way the 2005 data is presented the best.

Does that presentation style exist for c/o 2008/09 anywhere, or did the NLJ just change the way they present the data??

Edit: This is all being done so I can show my parents that significant differences exist between certain law schools, and that going to a T30 does not, in fact, guarentee or even give me a great chance of anything.

[gdane]

Thats terrible! It doesnt give you a great chance at "anything"? What's anything to you, Biglaw? There is more to law than just Biglaw. You have tons of options in the so called Top 30. Remember that even though a school is "ranked" lower than another, the lower ranked school might br stronger in its respective market/city and would offer better employment opportunities than the higher ranked school. Then again, what do I know? Haha.

[bk1]

If you want you can use Photoshop or some other program to rip apart the 2008 data and reorganize it so that it looks just like the 2005 data. The 2008 is merely broken down by region and reassembling it by purely NLJ250 percentage will give the exact same appearance as the 2005 chart.

These are the most comprehensive graphs to my knowledge.

[bk1]

Thats terrible! It doesnt give you a great chance at "anything"? What's anything to you, Biglaw? There is more to law than just Biglaw. You have tons of options in the so called Top 30. Remember that even though a school is "ranked" lower than another, the lower ranked school might br stronger in its respective market/city and would offer better employment opportunities than the higher ranked school. Then again, what do I know? Haha.

Maybe "anything" is a significant increase in economic prospects compared to the OP's current situation, of which you do not know what his/her current situation is nor what value he/she deems to be significant. No need to be a dick about the fact that not everyone has the same goals as you or is content with the same things.

[Interminable_Waiting]

Thats terrible! It doesnt give you a great chance at "anything"? What's anything to you, Biglaw? There is more to law than just Biglaw. You have tons of options in the so called Top 30. Remember that even though a school is "ranked" lower than another, the lower ranked school might br stronger in its respective market/city and would offer better employment opportunities than the higher ranked school. Then again, what do I know? Haha.

For my purposes anything is a job which makes it worthwhile to leave my 50K salary and follow my dreams... which at a minimum include either biglaw, a good federal gov't position, a good PI position, or clerkship. A 30% chance at that is not, in my opinion, a very good one.

HTH

[dibs]

i usually don't get involved in the whole 'law propsects' debate, since it's completely subjective and prone to internet violence, but one thing that always needs to be remembered is that a graduate degree opens up doors you don't even know exist. there's always benefit to having it. always.

[bk1]

i usually don't get involved in the whole 'law propsects' debate, since it's completely subjective and prone to internet violence, but one thing that always needs to be remembered is that a graduate degree opens up doors you don't even know exist. there's always benefit to having it. always.

There is also always a cost to having it. Always.