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which impresses you more?

top 5% + Law review at TTT like Drake/Albany/Mercer/NYLS
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top top 1/2 to 1/3 + Secondary Journal at lower T14 like GULC/Duke/Cornell
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who is more impressive to you:

Post by harvey2L » Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:22 pm

top 5% + Law review at TTT like Drake/Albany/Mercer/NYLS

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top top 1/2 at somewhere like GULC/Duke/Cornell

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by Tanicius » Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:23 pm

Former.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by jonas586 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:25 pm

The latter

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by kittenmittons » Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:26 pm

Latter but only if its dook

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by traehekat » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:33 am

Former, I think. Law school is pretty difficult no matter where you go, from what I gather. Top 5% is impressive anywhere, plus students at lower ranked schools are often more competitive than students at higher ranked schools (due to the desire to transfer).

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by Gunz353 » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:35 am

Label whores

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by najumobi » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:44 am

traehekat wrote:Former, I think. Law school is pretty difficult no matter where you go, from what I gather. Top 5% is impressive anywhere, plus students at lower ranked schools are often more competitive than students at higher ranked schools (due to the desire to transfer).
+1

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by Bosque » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:16 am

You guys realize you are talking about top third at Cornell vs. top 5% at New York Law School, right? Right? How is this even a question?

The lack of research and foresight it took to actually enroll there kinda disqualifies them from the competition.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by im_blue » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:18 am

Bosque wrote:You guys realize you are talking about top third at Cornell vs. top 5% at New York Law School, right? Right? How is this even a question?

The lack of research and foresight it took to actually enroll there kinda disqualifies them from the competition.
Aren't those roughly the biglaw cutoffs ITE?

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by calicocat » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:20 am

Any TLSer that says former is a dirty liar tryin to look good :P

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by stratocophic » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:25 am

Oli wrote:Any TLSer that says former is a dirty liar tryin to look good :P
TITCR. TLS

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by rayiner » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:26 am

im_blue wrote:
Bosque wrote:You guys realize you are talking about top third at Cornell vs. top 5% at New York Law School, right? Right? How is this even a question?

The lack of research and foresight it took to actually enroll there kinda disqualifies them from the competition.
Aren't those roughly the biglaw cutoffs ITE?
Top 5% at NYLS was the biglaw cut-off before ITE.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by Thirteen » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:26 am

The former is more impressive, but I would rather be the latter.

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Post by 09042014 » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:28 am

traehekat wrote:Former, I think. Law school is pretty difficult no matter where you go, from what I gather. Top 5% is impressive anywhere, plus students at lower ranked schools are often more competitive than students at higher ranked schools (due to the desire to transfer).
It may be difficult but its graded on a curve. People at Georgetown are smarter on average.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by najumobi » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:31 am

rayiner wrote:
im_blue wrote:
Bosque wrote:You guys realize you are talking about top third at Cornell vs. top 5% at New York Law School, right? Right? How is this even a question?

The lack of research and foresight it took to actually enroll there kinda disqualifies them from the competition.
Aren't those roughly the biglaw cutoffs ITE?
Top 5% at NYLS was the biglaw cut-off before ITE.
ITE would probably make the cuttoff top 2/3%, now making biglaw practically out of reach for NYLS peeps. gone are the days when NYLS students had a realistic chance at biglaw.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by vanwinkle » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:31 am

Thirteen wrote:The former is more impressive, but I would rather be the latter.
TITCR.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by JazzOne » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:32 am

I say the latter. Doing well in law school is one thing, but getting into a top law shows long-term commitment.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by los blancos » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:33 am

This is an interesting question. I don't know which I would choose.

This is going to sound elitist, but while those top 5%ers at TTTs are usually pretty damn smart, they are competing against a curve of lots of relatively unintelligent people.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by vanwinkle » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:33 am

JazzOne wrote:I say the latter. Doing well in law school is one thing, but getting into a top law shows long-term commitment.
Seriously? The minimum for getting into Cornell requires four years of slacking in UG and excelling for three hours of your life.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by JazzOne » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:35 am

vanwinkle wrote:
JazzOne wrote:I say the latter. Doing well in law school is one thing, but getting into a top law shows long-term commitment.
Seriously? The minimum for getting into Cornell requires four years of slacking in UG and excelling for three hours of your life.
Few people excel for those three hours without a lot of prep (either in UG or independently).

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Post by 09042014 » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:36 am

vanwinkle wrote:
JazzOne wrote:I say the latter. Doing well in law school is one thing, but getting into a top law shows long-term commitment.
Seriously? The minimum for getting into Cornell requires four years of slacking in UG and excelling for three hours of your life.
And the minimum for NYLS is four years slacking and then massively fucking up a three hour test.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by jcunni5 » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:37 am

what is more impressive?

the person you meet that says he graduated from Georgetown Law

or

the person you meet that graduated from NYLS or John Marshall but insists he graduated at the top of his class

if you asked me when phrased this way there is no way i would be more impressed by the TTTT individual

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by lsatbdog » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:51 am

Desert Fox wrote:
traehekat wrote:Former, I think. Law school is pretty difficult no matter where you go, from what I gather. Top 5% is impressive anywhere, plus students at lower ranked schools are often more competitive than students at higher ranked schools (due to the desire to transfer).
It may be difficult but its graded on a curve. People at Georgetown are smarter on average.
+1, I have a bit of perspective on this

I went to one of the low-ranked schools you mentioned for UG (it wasn't Harvard, but the UG there is a bit more respectable than the law school). I know a few people from UG who wound up at the law school on full tuition schollys and finished top 15-20%, which while a ways from top 5%, is still pretty high up, and while these were resonably bright people, there is no way they were qualified for Georgetown or better. If you were talking about top 5% at say, Florida, Colorado, American, etc, I think you would have a pretty good question. Also, I'm not sure how competitive it was, but from what I could gater I don't think most people were working super hard trying to transfer up, as many would have been content just to get a job in the state.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by Space_Cowboy » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:03 am

Which one describes you best?

Attending a T2/T3 school with hopes of Big Law

OR

Attending a lower T-14 and are worried about career prospects?

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Post by lsatbdog » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:11 am

Space_Cowboy wrote:Which one describes you best?

Attending a T2/T3 school with hopes of Big Law

OR

Attending a lower T-14 and are worried about career prospects?
Not sure if that is directed at me, but in any case I was talking about my undergrad...

And if it is directed at me, then neither(middle tier 1 or upper tier 2/JAG/SJA)...
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