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Law School Professors: Liberals or Conservatives???

Post by vtoodler » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:01 am

Where do law school professors at your typical law school lie on the political spectrum? I have always been under the impression that they tend to be more conservative.

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Post by mallard » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:03 am

I'm pretty sure you were under the wrong impression.

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Post by CyLaw » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:06 am

While I am sure there are professors that lie in all possible directions in the political spectrum, I always heard that as a group it tends to me more liberal than conservative. I thought conservative law professors where in the minority.

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Post by Renzo » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:06 am

As with all professors, there is a wide dispersal, but the mean is the left of center.

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Post by vanwinkle » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:11 am

Conventional wisdom seems to be that the law profession is overwhelmingly left-leaning, but of my professors my first semester, the only one that expressed any real political views at all was very hardcore conservative.

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Post by Vincent Vega » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:20 am

Liberals' self-perpetuation strategy is to drill ideology into the next generation by becoming professors.

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Post by Space_Cowboy » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:22 am

Halibut6 wrote:Liberals' self-perpetuation strategy is to drill ideology into the next generation by becoming professors.
I recommend taking off the tin foil hat.

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Post by Vincent Vega » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:24 am

:) I didn't say I wasn't a liberal.

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Post by Space_Cowboy » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:25 am

Halibut6 wrote::) I didn't say I wasn't a liberal.
My sarcasm detector is filing miserably.....

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Post by RVP11 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:32 am

vanwinkle wrote:Conventional wisdom seems to be that the law profession is overwhelmingly left-leaning, but of my professors my first semester, the only one that expressed any real political views at all was very hardcore conservative.
IDK if that's really conventional wisdom. Other than legal academics and the plaintiff's bar, I can't think of any other left-leaning groups. Big firms and their lawyers certainly aren't.

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Post by vanwinkle » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:33 am

JSUVA2012 wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:Conventional wisdom seems to be that the law profession is overwhelmingly left-leaning, but of my professors my first semester, the only one that expressed any real political views at all was very hardcore conservative.
IDK if that's really conventional wisdom. Other than legal academics and the plaintiff's bar, I can't think of any other left-leaning groups. Big firms and their lawyers certainly aren't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventional_wisdom

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Post by Space_Cowboy » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:38 am

JSUVA2012 wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:Conventional wisdom seems to be that the law profession is overwhelmingly left-leaning, but of my professors my first semester, the only one that expressed any real political views at all was very hardcore conservative.
IDK if that's really conventional wisdom. Other than legal academics and the plaintiff's bar, I can't think of any other left-leaning groups. Big firms and their lawyers certainly aren't.
I'm not sure about that. Either that or I work with a bizarre number of hippies for a big firm. Aren't there campaign contribution websites to do a quick check (not exactly lib/con, but D/R is close enough)?

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Post by mallard » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:47 am

Don't think biglaw attorneys tend to be particularly conservative.

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Post by RVP11 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:48 am

Space_Cowboy wrote:
JSUVA2012 wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:Conventional wisdom seems to be that the law profession is overwhelmingly left-leaning, but of my professors my first semester, the only one that expressed any real political views at all was very hardcore conservative.
IDK if that's really conventional wisdom. Other than legal academics and the plaintiff's bar, I can't think of any other left-leaning groups. Big firms and their lawyers certainly aren't.
I'm not sure about that. Either that or I work with a bizarre number of hippies for a big firm. Aren't there campaign contribution websites to do a quick check (not exactly lib/con, but D/R is close enough)?
Probably depends on the city. But your typical white shoe BigLaw firm is going to be right-leaning, I'd say.

I'm sure if you subtracted DC/NYC firms, you'd find that BigLaw = conservative, by and large.
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Post by vanwinkle » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:49 am

mallard wrote:Don't think biglaw attorneys tend to be particularly conservative.
The few that make partner probably are, but they probably tend to be outnumbered by the liberal associates working for a few years to pay off their loans before going off to do what they really want to do.

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Post by mallard » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:51 am

JSUVA2012 wrote:I'm sure if you subtracted DC/NYC firms, you'd find that BigLaw = conservative, by and large.
I don't think this is the case. I'm pretty sure California biglaw is pretty liberal, and nothing suggests to me that Chicago biglaw is particularly conservative. Texas biglaw, sure.

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Post by Space_Cowboy » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:52 am

JSUVA2012 wrote:
Space_Cowboy wrote:
JSUVA2012 wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:Conventional wisdom seems to be that the law profession is overwhelmingly left-leaning, but of my professors my first semester, the only one that expressed any real political views at all was very hardcore conservative.
IDK if that's really conventional wisdom. Other than legal academics and the plaintiff's bar, I can't think of any other left-leaning groups. Big firms and their lawyers certainly aren't.
I'm not sure about that. Either that or I work with a bizarre number of hippies for a big firm. Aren't there campaign contribution websites to do a quick check (not exactly lib/con, but D/R is close enough)?
Probably depends on the city. But your typical white shoe BigLaw firm is going to be right-leaning, I'd say.

I'm sure if you subtracted DC/NYC firms, you'd find that BigLaw = conservative, by and large.
Any reason for believing this? Aside from the fact that they make tons of coin.

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Post by RVP11 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:56 am

Space_Cowboy wrote:
Any reason for believing this? Aside from the fact that they make tons of coin.
Three cities I've actually done political research within. Full disclosure: they're all western (non-CA) cities. All had overwhelmingly conservative law firms.

And out of my hometown's 15 big firms, I remember discovering that the members of 14 of them were giving an overwhelming majority of their financial support to Republican candidates.

Maybe it'd be better to make an exception for major markets.

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Post by Space_Cowboy » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:00 am

JSUVA2012 wrote:
Space_Cowboy wrote:
Any reason for believing this? Aside from the fact that they make tons of coin.
Three cities I've actually done political research within. Full disclosure: they're all western (non-CA) cities. All had overwhelmingly conservative law firms.

And out of my hometown's 15 big firms, I remember discovering that the members of 14 of them were giving an overwhelming majority of their financial support to Republican candidates.

Maybe it'd be better to make an exception for major markets.
Can you out the three states?

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Post by mallard » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:01 am

But an overwhelming amount of biglaw is in major markets.

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Re: Law School Professors: Liberals or Conservatives???

Post by Oban » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:24 am

Big law in Seattle is definitely liberal. I'd wager that most biglaw firms in major market lean liberal and often have a healthy pro bono group. Despite convential wisdom. Making bank =/= Conservatttive.

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Re: Law School Professors: Liberals or Conservatives???

Post by drsomebody » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:47 am

In my admittedly limited experience I've found that law professors are, on average, considerably more conservative than other members of the professoriate (humanities, social sciences, and hard sciences).

By conservative I don't necessarily mean Republican. There are very few Republican academics of any sort. There are all sorts of systemic reasons for this, but "liberal bias" in hiring and tenure plays only a very small role.

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Post by 02082010 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:47 am

Academics, lawyers, other professionals, smart people in general = liberal.

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Post by RVP11 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:22 pm

hopefulundergrad wrote:Academics, lawyers, other professionals, smart people in general = liberal.

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But people with $$$, in general = conservative.

I'd be shocked to find that BigLaw partners, nationwide, are left-leaning.

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