Define "gunner" Forum

[Lieut Kaffee]

I figured out the CR for my exam question. The two determinations a trial court must make in order to carry out its task are determination of fact and determination of law.

Gunner.

Lol. I'm surprised none of the people in this thread had the answer. I was genuinely looking for help; this is what happens when you take post-bacc courses that don't matter and then spend the entirety of each three-hour stutter-filled lecture surfing TLS. Heck, I drafted much of my personal statement during this class.

[TTH]

I'm a person who often enjoys exploring the some of the finer distinctions in life. It comes from my philosophy background, I suspect.

Oh, dude, you're gonna be an awesome gunner. Start lubing up the wheels on your rolling backpack. Treat this thread as a checklist: --LinkRemoved--

[lietx3]

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[nealric]

[schmohawk]

Gunners never prosper...

Interesting. If being at the top of one's class is considered prospering, you've actually just posited a very counterintuitive conditional, implying that being a gunner is a sufficient condition for NOT being at the top the class.

Wow somebody really liked the cool new words they just learned while studying for the LSAT didn't they? You kind of sound like a third grader who just took a vocabulary test.

[Lieut Kaffee]

Gunners never prosper...

Interesting. If being at the top of one's class is considered prospering, you've actually just posited a very counterintuitive conditional, implying that being a gunner is a sufficient condition for NOT being at the top the class.

Wow somebody really liked the cool new words they just learned while studying for the LSAT didn't they? You kind of sound like a third grader who just took a vocabulary test.

"Learned while studying for the LSAT"? I'm a philosophy major.

[schmohawk]

Gunners never prosper...

Interesting. If being at the top of one's class is considered prospering, you've actually just posited a very counterintuitive conditional, implying that being a gunner is a sufficient condition for NOT being at the top the class.

Wow somebody really liked the cool new words they just learned while studying for the LSAT didn't they? You kind of sound like a third grader who just took a vocabulary test.

"Learned while studying for the LSAT"? I'm a philosophy major.

Your mom goes to college.

[yolech]

I doubt you can give a simple definition for the word. It's more of a social thing; there are so many different scenarios, marked with subtle distinctions between what's legitimate behavior and "gunnerism." It's like asking, "What's annoying?" Lot's of things are annoying. Lots of things aren't. If you can't distinguish between the two, then your social faculties are defective.

Unlike in undergrad, you will be spending a godawful amount of time (we're talking years) with the same people. If you do something repeatedly, especially something irritating, patience will quickly wear thin. My mom went through pharmacy school. In her final year, one of the class gunners asked one of his annoying questions. Another classmate jumped out of his chair and started beating him up. He got kicked out of school and everything. Be aware that when you ask another one of your no-doubt edifying questions, that you're in a room full of very stressed people who have had about all the edification they care to handle.

[Lieut Kaffee]

I doubt you can give a simple definition for the word. It's more of a social thing; there are so many different scenarios, marked with subtle distinctions between what's legitimate behavior and "gunnerism." It's like asking, "What's annoying?" Lot's of things are annoying. Lots of things aren't. If you can't distinguish between the two, then your social faculties are defective.

Unlike in undergrad, you will be spending a godawful amount of time (we're talking years) with the same people. If you do something repeatedly, especially something irritating, patience will quickly wear thin. My mom went through pharmacy school. In her final year, one of the class gunners asked one of his annoying questions. Another classmate jumped out of his chair and started beating him up. He got kicked out of school and everything. Be aware that when you ask another one of your no-doubt edifying questions, that you're in a room full of very stressed people who have had about all the edification they care to handle.

I would pay so much money to see this happen.

[vanwinkle]

When OP's first-semester Civ Pro prof tells him he doesn't know what he's talking about, and he stands up and shouts, "DON'T TELL ME WHAT I KNOW, AND DON'T KNOW, I KNOW THE LAW!!!"...

...then OP will know what being a gunner is, and that it is him.

[Lieut Kaffee]

When OP's first-semester Civ Pro prof tells him he doesn't know what he's talking about, and he stands up and shouts, "DON'T TELL ME WHAT I KNOW, AND DON'T KNOW, I KNOW THE LAW!!!"...

...then OP will know what being a gunner is, and that it is him.

Hilarious. That's actually my favorite line from that movie. I considered writing my Penn supplemental essay about that exact line for the "literature prompt." Don't believe me? I still have the draft.

Don't worry, I realized I was being an idiot and just wrote the "5-year plan" instead.

[DoctorNick189]

Your mom goes to college.

Classic.

[Richie Tenenbaum]

Your mom goes to college.

Classic.

[Ragged]

I'm a person who often enjoys exploring the some of the finer distinctions in life. It comes from my philosophy background, I suspect.

Oh, dude, you're gonna be an awesome gunner. Start lubing up the wheels on your rolling backpack. Treat this thread as a checklist: --LinkRemoved--

+10000 LOLed all the way through....

[Lieut Kaffee]

I'm a person who often enjoys exploring the some of the finer distinctions in life. It comes from my philosophy background, I suspect.

Oh, dude, you're gonna be an awesome gunner. Start lubing up the wheels on your rolling backpack. Treat this thread as a checklist: --LinkRemoved--

Wow, I can't believe I wrote that. But that thread was amazing.

[Jim_Stansel]

^This gunner's avatar represents how he is going to dress for class everyday along with how he is going to say hello to his professors.

[AtticusFinch]

I think it's time to pull a "Code Red" on this thread.

[rayiner]

Is "gunnerism" a sufficient condition for being in the top, say, 10% of one's class (i.e. can someone be a gunner and just suck at it)? Is it a necessary condition (i.e. are all the top students considered by their jealous classmates to be dirty, good-for-nothing gunners irrespective of their actual habits/tendencies/personality)?

There are no necessary or sufficient conditions for excelling at law school.

Re: gunnerism. Don't worry about it. Talk if you want to, don't talk if you don't want to. Be friendly, don't be a tool, and for god's sake don't take yourself too seriously. Beyond that, what other people think of you is their business.

I think finishing in the top 5% is sufficient for being a gunner, because then pple will hate you. The secret to love is act dumb.

TITNCR. The secret is being a nice person and not a self-involved tool. It's really fucking simple.

[cubswin]

Since you are a philosophy major:

Wittgenstein would say we could show you what a gunner is, but any attempt to definitively say what a gunner is will end in nonsense.

[rayiner]

Since you are a philosophy major:

Wittgenstein would say we could show you what a gunner is, but any attempt to definitively say what a gunner is will end in nonsense.

There is a high correlation between being a philosophy major and your classmates disliking you.

[yolech]

I doubt you can give a simple definition for the word. It's more of a social thing; there are so many different scenarios, marked with subtle distinctions between what's legitimate behavior and "gunnerism." It's like asking, "What's annoying?" Lot's of things are annoying. Lots of things aren't. If you can't distinguish between the two, then your social faculties are defective.

Unlike in undergrad, you will be spending a godawful amount of time (we're talking years) with the same people. If you do something repeatedly, especially something irritating, patience will quickly wear thin. My mom went through pharmacy school. In her final year, one of the class gunners asked one of his annoying questions. Another classmate jumped out of his chair and started beating him up. He got kicked out of school and everything. Be aware that when you ask another one of your no-doubt edifying questions, that you're in a room full of very stressed people who have had about all the edification they care to handle.

I would pay so much money to see this happen.

Just keep tossing that hand up. It'll happen.

Seriously, though. It's about being considerate and respectful. Class time is precious. When some jerk decides to waste it just so he can fellate himself with extraneous questions/remarks that are better explored in his own time, he wastes the time and money of his peers. It's no different from a phone going off every five minutes, or people having loud side conversations.

[S de Garmeaux]

Since you are a philosophy major:Wittgenstein would say we could show you what a gunner is, but any attempt to definitively say what a gunner is will end in nonsense.

Disagree. I would be moved to say that what separates a "Gunner" from someone who is merely a hard worker and/or very smart is that a Gunner would be inclined to not only 'gun' for top grades, but to 'gun' for other students in the process; i.e. lie, tear out book pages, etc.

There is a high correlation between being a philosophy major and your classmates disliking you.

As someone who took on Phil as a second major semi-late in UG instead of graduating early, Agreed.

[echoi]

I'm a person who often enjoys exploring the some of the finer distinctions in life. It comes from my philosophy background, I suspect.

Oh, dude, you're gonna be an awesome gunner. Start lubing up the wheels on your rolling backpack. Treat this thread as a checklist: --LinkRemoved--

I remember reading that thread awhile back. Some of the best ones:

Keep a chart estimating each of your classmate's odds of being in the top 10%. Make it roughly the size of a seating chart and update it whenever someone talks in class.

but the true gunner wears the harvard law sweatshirt to his first day of classes at UIUC.

I think I know what to do - one day, while gunning, I'll get into such a heated and passionate argument with the prof that at the end of my speech, I just puke all over my desk.

But what will make it legendary is when I wipe off my mouth and continue gunning like nothing happened.

LOL that thread made my day

[Nicholasnickynic]

If you can't spot a gunner in your class... its you.

So, if the person everyone thinks is a gunner ends up in the bottom half of his class when grades come out, is he still a gunner?

If a student rarely participates in class and has a great social life and happens to also be top 5%, is he a gunner or isn't he?

1.YES
2.NO

Great social life and top 5%. LOL

[Cupidity]

That kid, who you hate 99% of the time. But thank God for when he's hogging the spotlight and you haven't read.