Yeah, Northwestern is better than UChicago and Yale is much worse. Excellent thread addition, chief.BeerMaker wrote:I took it from law school transparency
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Didn't know how to properly respond to his derp. Thank you.Bildungsroman wrote:Yeah, Northwestern is better than UChicago and Yale is much worse. Excellent thread addition, chief.BeerMaker wrote:I took it from law school transparency
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sure, consolidate some tiny states. But we don't need Cardozo or Pepperdine.dingbat wrote:Not entirely correct. There's no need for both the Dakotas to have a law school (or even one if them)JamMasterJ wrote: take T18, add one per state. Burn the rest
On the other hand, having 3-5 (total) in NY makes total sense.
Mathematically, there are about 150 law schools graduating 45k law students for 25k law jobs, so we need a reduction of about half, to around 75 law schools.
T14 + 1 per state would leave us a little short.
If places like Wyoming and Montana decide to pool resources and have 1 law school (which makes sense) then that creates a few more spots for some of the bigger states (eg Texas probably needs 4 or 5)
But yes, there are too many law schools
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agreed - although a case can be made for Joisey (no one else can understand what they're thinking)JamMasterJ wrote: sure, consolidate some tiny states. But we don't need Cardozo or Pepperdine.
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Don't put words in my mouth. I simply posted raw job data. If that hurts your feelings because you're a Yale and or Chicago fan, well, tough shit.Bildungsroman wrote:Yeah, Northwestern is better than UChicago and Yale is much worse. Excellent thread addition, chief.BeerMaker wrote:I took it from law school transparency
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Objective. The ABA Mandates the LS industry to cut its LS class size to accommodate 20,000 LS grads a year. Basically, every LS cuts its class size in half. If a LS goes belly-up those seats would be distributed evenly to other schools. Every grad would have a solid chance at work to earn a good living and pay off their debt.
Honestly, had anybody been at the switch, this is what LS would have looked like today.
Honestly, had anybody been at the switch, this is what LS would have looked like today.
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Can we start by cutting your seat?Pate wrote:Objective. The ABA Mandates the LS industry to cut its LS class size to accommodate 20,000 LS grads a year. Basically, every LS cuts its class size in half. If a LS goes belly-up those seats would be distributed evenly to other schools. Every grad would have a solid chance at work to earn a good living and pay off their debt.
Honestly, had anybody been at the switch, this is what LS would have looked like today.
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So getting rid of a lot of law schools would be fantastic for the economy. I agree. Is there any way that will ever happen?JamMasterJ wrote:sure, consolidate some tiny states. But we don't need Cardozo or Pepperdine.dingbat wrote:Not entirely correct. There's no need for both the Dakotas to have a law school (or even one if them)JamMasterJ wrote: take T18, add one per state. Burn the rest
On the other hand, having 3-5 (total) in NY makes total sense.
Mathematically, there are about 150 law schools graduating 45k law students for 25k law jobs, so we need a reduction of about half, to around 75 law schools.
T14 + 1 per state would leave us a little short.
If places like Wyoming and Montana decide to pool resources and have 1 law school (which makes sense) then that creates a few more spots for some of the bigger states (eg Texas probably needs 4 or 5)
But yes, there are too many law schools
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This is for the immediate future. Stop being so brain dead in your posting.dingbat wrote:Can we start by cutting your seat?
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Do you really think Yale has worse job prospects?BeerMaker wrote:Don't put words in my mouth. I simply posted raw job data. If that hurts your feelings because you're a Yale and or Chicago fan, well, tough shit.Bildungsroman wrote:Yeah, Northwestern is better than UChicago and Yale is much worse. Excellent thread addition, chief.BeerMaker wrote:I took it from law school transparency
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not unless something drastic happens. The shitty schools make too much money.BeerMaker wrote:So getting rid of a lot of law schools would be fantastic for the economy. I agree. Is there any way that will ever happen?JamMasterJ wrote:sure, consolidate some tiny states. But we don't need Cardozo or Pepperdine.dingbat wrote:Not entirely correct. There's no need for both the Dakotas to have a law school (or even one if them)JamMasterJ wrote: take T18, add one per state. Burn the rest
On the other hand, having 3-5 (total) in NY makes total sense.
Mathematically, there are about 150 law schools graduating 45k law students for 25k law jobs, so we need a reduction of about half, to around 75 law schools.
T14 + 1 per state would leave us a little short.
If places like Wyoming and Montana decide to pool resources and have 1 law school (which makes sense) then that creates a few more spots for some of the bigger states (eg Texas probably needs 4 or 5)
But yes, there are too many law schools
no, cut the bad half of the schools instead. I'd rather there not be an NYLS than have people with 165s at TTTs. That makes no sense.Pate wrote:Objective. The ABA Mandates the LS industry to cut its LS class size to accommodate 20,000 LS grads a year. Basically, every LS cuts its class size in half. If a LS goes belly-up those seats would be distributed evenly to other schools. Every grad would have a solid chance at work to earn a good living and pay off their debt.
Honestly, had anybody been at the switch, this is what LS would have looked like today.
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Not sure if the ABA could shut down a LS, but they might be able to limit class side. Maybe.JamMasterJ wrote:no, cut the bad half of the schools instead. I'd rather there not be an NYLS than have people with 165s at TTTs. That makes no sense.
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I'm not putting words in your mouth. Your tiny walnut brain is just attempting some cognitive dissonance right now to reconcile your own high opinion of your intelligence with the retarded things you constantly say. I recommend whisky.BeerMaker wrote:Don't put words in my mouth. I simply posted raw job data. If that hurts your feelings because you're a Yale and or Chicago fan, well, tough shit.Bildungsroman wrote:Yeah, Northwestern is better than UChicago and Yale is much worse. Excellent thread addition, chief.BeerMaker wrote:I took it from law school transparency
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Beermaker is just babytown frolics.Bildungsroman wrote: Your tiny walnut brain is just attempting some cognitive dissonance right now to reconcile your own high opinion of your intelligence with the retarded things you constantly say. I recommend whisky.
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The ABA is helmed by deans of TTTT and TTT schools. I doubt the ABA will be "mandating" anything like this in the near future.Pate wrote:Objective. The ABA Mandates the LS industry to cut its LS class size to accommodate 20,000 LS grads a year. Basically, every LS cuts its class size in half. If a LS goes belly-up those seats would be distributed evenly to other schools. Every grad would have a solid chance at work to earn a good living and pay off their debt.
Honestly, had anybody been at the switch, this is what LS would have looked like today.
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Just wrong for these administrators to rob well-meaning students of their financial future.buckilaw wrote:The ABA is helmed by deans of TTTT and TTT schools. I doubt the ABA will be "mandating" anything like this in the near future.
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IT'S SO RAW.tfleming09 wrote:Fucking EL OH ELBeerMaker wrote:Don't put words in my mouth. I simply posted raw job data. If that hurts your feelings because you're a Yale and or Chicago fan, well, tough shit.
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tfleming09 wrote:Fucking EL OH ELBeerMaker wrote:Don't put words in my mouth. I simply posted raw job data. If that hurts your feelings because you're a Yale and or Chicago fan, well, tough shit.
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In any other industry/profession, the law school TTT scam would have been upended by now. Why it hasn't goes directly back to the "type" of people running these schools, in charge of regulating them (ABA), and attending them: they can make an argument for anything, love semantics and debate, and often overlook very simple answers and solutions to "debate some more" and "well, consider this" or "however, it would be foolish to assume" that. STFU, lawyer-types. the problem is clear, it's there, and it needs to be addressed. stop philosophizing and making arguments and just close down the piece of shiTTT schools that are ruining this profession.
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Like school #14bingbang1025 wrote:In any other industry/profession, the law school TTT scam would have been upended by now. Why it hasn't goes directly back to the "type" of people running these schools, in charge of regulating them (ABA), and attending them: they can make an argument for anything, love semantics and debate, and often overlook very simple answers and solutions to "debate some more" and "well, consider this" or "however, it would be foolish to assume" that. STFU, lawyer-types. the problem is clear, it's there, and it needs to be addressed. stop philosophizing and making arguments and just close down the piece of shiTTT schools that are ruining this profession.
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clarify plz. #14 on which of the many lists that have been posted in this thread?dingbat wrote:Like school #14bingbang1025 wrote:In any other industry/profession, the law school TTT scam would have been upended by now. Why it hasn't goes directly back to the "type" of people running these schools, in charge of regulating them (ABA), and attending them: they can make an argument for anything, love semantics and debate, and often overlook very simple answers and solutions to "debate some more" and "well, consider this" or "however, it would be foolish to assume" that. STFU, lawyer-types. the problem is clear, it's there, and it needs to be addressed. stop philosophizing and making arguments and just close down the piece of shiTTT schools that are ruining this profession.
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There 's only one numbered list in this thread...bingbang1025 wrote:clarify plz. #14 on which of the many lists that have been posted in this thread?dingbat wrote:Like school #14bingbang1025 wrote:In any other industry/profession, the law school TTT scam would have been upended by now. Why it hasn't goes directly back to the "type" of people running these schools, in charge of regulating them (ABA), and attending them: they can make an argument for anything, love semantics and debate, and often overlook very simple answers and solutions to "debate some more" and "well, consider this" or "however, it would be foolish to assume" that. STFU, lawyer-types. the problem is clear, it's there, and it needs to be addressed. stop philosophizing and making arguments and just close down the piece of shiTTT schools that are ruining this profession.

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ic.dingbat wrote:There 's only one numbered list in this thread...bingbang1025 wrote:clarify plz. #14 on which of the many lists that have been posted in this thread?dingbat wrote:Like school #14bingbang1025 wrote:In any other industry/profession, the law school TTT scam would have been upended by now. Why it hasn't goes directly back to the "type" of people running these schools, in charge of regulating them (ABA), and attending them: they can make an argument for anything, love semantics and debate, and often overlook very simple answers and solutions to "debate some more" and "well, consider this" or "however, it would be foolish to assume" that. STFU, lawyer-types. the problem is clear, it's there, and it needs to be addressed. stop philosophizing and making arguments and just close down the piece of shiTTT schools that are ruining this profession.
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+1tfleming09 wrote:Between this new rankings list and Fenwick not being at Yale's OCI, I think we all can acknowledge that Yale is officially a festering TTT in decline
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