I actually use one now for a ton of DOC/PDF reading (various reasons why I can't use an e-reader instead). But it's really just a luxury over reading it on a laptop.Br3v wrote:Using a tablet for anything academic sounds horrible.
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I've heard of iAnnotate but not notability. Why do you prefer it now?ood wrote:Check out iannotate pdf, it used to be my go to app before notabilityRedamon1 wrote:1L. I recently got an iPad, not to take notes (I use my laptop for that), but to read and annotate scanned textbooks and other reading assignments.
I've found GoodReader to be a good app so far because annotations are relatively easy and the synch with Dropbox works well, but I wonder if others have found better apps or have general tips to improve productivity on iPad / tablet.
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probably horrible. you won't be able to highlight and annotate, can't find passages as easily during a discussion, and most importantly, they won't be allowed during an open note/book exam. oh, and they're significantly more expensive than just buying a used edition of a casebook.sumtimesuwonder wrote:Also, how available are e-textbooks for law school?
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I'm not sure I agree with all of this. I agree that they are more expensive than used books, more difficult to highlight/annotate, and more of a pain to flip through. But availability doesn't seem to be a huge problem. Aspen (by Wolters Kluwer), for example, does a decent job. Additionally, West (by Thomson Reuters) does a good job as well. (LinkRemoved) Those two publish the vast majority of casebooks. But that doesn't mean you'll be able to find every book.f0bolous wrote:probably horrible. you won't be able to highlight and annotate, can't find passages as easily during a discussion, and most importantly, they won't be allowed during an open note/book exam. oh, and they're significantly more expensive than just buying a used edition of a casebook.sumtimesuwonder wrote:Also, how available are e-textbooks for law school?
It's also not accurate that they necessarily won't be available during open exams. If the exam has an open hard drive policy (e.g. many of NU's exams), then you will have access to the eBook. Though you're right, this is not the case at a lot of schools. However, and more importantly, if you're looking at a casebook during an exam you are likely fucked anyways. The only time you should be looking at a book is if you need the specific text of something (e.g. the FRCP in Civ Pro), but otherwise I would seriously not worry about whether you can use a casebook during an exam.
ETA: That question is almost a year old. ><
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I've got an e-book which came free with a text I purchased. After a few classes, I transitioned to only using the e-book. Highlighting is not an issue (note that I only highlight in one color, so I don't know if that'd be an issue for some) and the search function works very well for flipping to where I need to be. The only drawback I can think of is if you have problems with your laptop (and mine's a POS)
I'm sitting on the fence whether to get ebooks or regular texts next semester, although I'll probably just choose the cheaper option
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If your law school classes have a lot of ebooks or pdfs to read, then Ipads might be functional and saves a lot of money and paper.
However, taking notes on your ipad can be a real pain. I have tried it for undergrad (yep, that guy), and it does not work.
However, taking notes on your ipad can be a real pain. I have tried it for undergrad (yep, that guy), and it does not work.
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Now that I'm a few months into law school I thought I'd share what I've learned about ipad use in class (and give my mind a break from studying contracts and property).
First, I didn't buy my ipad for law school, I already had it. I wouldn't recommend paying that kind of money just to use it in law school when you can get a good laptop for the same price.
I don't use mine for note taking in class (I prefer my comfort level with my laptop & OneNote) but I know several other students who do use it (with a bluetooth keyboard) and have no issues with it. I do, however, use it in almost every class because I have my syllabus and any pdf or other documents I need for the class on it.
Some apps I recommend:
Notability - Simple to use, just add a .pdf (I also use dropbox/the dropbox app to do this) and you can highlight material in multiple colors, scribble a note with your finger, or type in text. I also sync in .pdf to dropbox so anytime I change something it saves what I highlighted and I can view it on my computer too.
Black's Law Dictionary - Some people prefer lugging around a 25lb book but I'm fine with the digital copy. It's less expensive than a new one (though expensive compared to most apps at about $50) and you don't have to flip through the pages to find the word you're looking for. Also, the definitions contain links to West and other definitions to help you fully understand things. A bonus is that it has the ability to pronounce words so you can hear it before your professor makes fun of you for completely butchering some Latin word.
I signed up for Barbri so their study aid app is useful and you can download all their video lectures to your ipad and watch them even when you're not connected to the internet.
LexisAdvance & Westlaw Next both have apps that are simple and useful.
Study aids - I bought the Wolters & Kluwer Q&A app which I've enjoyed all the hypos so far (again pricey compared to most apps at about $20).
Lawstack/casebriefs - A lot of casebrief websites have their own apps so you can lookup briefs on the go.
If anyone knows of any other good apps for law school let me know.
First, I didn't buy my ipad for law school, I already had it. I wouldn't recommend paying that kind of money just to use it in law school when you can get a good laptop for the same price.
I don't use mine for note taking in class (I prefer my comfort level with my laptop & OneNote) but I know several other students who do use it (with a bluetooth keyboard) and have no issues with it. I do, however, use it in almost every class because I have my syllabus and any pdf or other documents I need for the class on it.
Some apps I recommend:
Notability - Simple to use, just add a .pdf (I also use dropbox/the dropbox app to do this) and you can highlight material in multiple colors, scribble a note with your finger, or type in text. I also sync in .pdf to dropbox so anytime I change something it saves what I highlighted and I can view it on my computer too.
Black's Law Dictionary - Some people prefer lugging around a 25lb book but I'm fine with the digital copy. It's less expensive than a new one (though expensive compared to most apps at about $50) and you don't have to flip through the pages to find the word you're looking for. Also, the definitions contain links to West and other definitions to help you fully understand things. A bonus is that it has the ability to pronounce words so you can hear it before your professor makes fun of you for completely butchering some Latin word.
I signed up for Barbri so their study aid app is useful and you can download all their video lectures to your ipad and watch them even when you're not connected to the internet.
LexisAdvance & Westlaw Next both have apps that are simple and useful.
Study aids - I bought the Wolters & Kluwer Q&A app which I've enjoyed all the hypos so far (again pricey compared to most apps at about $20).
Lawstack/casebriefs - A lot of casebrief websites have their own apps so you can lookup briefs on the go.
If anyone knows of any other good apps for law school let me know.
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Both the app and the actual book are wastes of money.CliveStaples wrote:Black's Law Dictionary - Some people prefer lugging around a 25lb book but I'm fine with the digital copy. It's less expensive than a new one (though expensive compared to most apps at about $50) and you don't have to flip through the pages to find the word you're looking for. Also, the definitions contain links to West and other definitions to help you fully understand things. A bonus is that it has the ability to pronounce words so you can hear it before your professor makes fun of you for completely butchering some Latin word.
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Wut? You can highlight and annotate, you can passages much easier (because of the find function that doesn't exist in real life), and they're cheaper than new textbooks. The not bringing it in may be a problem if you plan to flip through books during your examf0bolous wrote:probably horrible. you won't be able to highlight and annotate, can't find passages as easily during a discussion, and most importantly, they won't be allowed during an open note/book exam. oh, and they're significantly more expensive than just buying a used edition of a casebook.sumtimesuwonder wrote:Also, how available are e-textbooks for law school?
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iPads have a few functional facebook clients. That seems to be the extent of what my classmate who use them in class do on them, although to be fair, that's the extent of what 40% of the kids with laptops do too.
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Sometimes I use a Logitech keyboard case and Outline+ app to edit OneNote notebooks and sync in dropbox. I actually prefer Outline+ for drawing and highlighting on an iPad over MS OneNote on a PC.
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No.bk187 wrote:Both the app and the actual book are wastes of money.CliveStaples wrote:Black's Law Dictionary - Some people prefer lugging around a 25lb book but I'm fine with the digital copy. It's less expensive than a new one (though expensive compared to most apps at about $50) and you don't have to flip through the pages to find the word you're looking for. Also, the definitions contain links to West and other definitions to help you fully understand things. A bonus is that it has the ability to pronounce words so you can hear it before your professor makes fun of you for completely butchering some Latin word.
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I don't feel like debating its worthlessness (which it is except possibly outside of closed book writing competitions that allow a physical copy of Black's), so I will just say that it's available on Westlaw for free.CliveStaples wrote:No.bk187 wrote:Both the app and the actual book are wastes of money.
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Because you are guaranteed to have Westlaw forever...bk187 wrote:I don't feel like debating its worthlessness (which it is except possibly outside of closed book writing competitions that allow a physical copy of Black's), so I will just say that it's available on Westlaw for free.CliveStaples wrote:No.bk187 wrote:Both the app and the actual book are wastes of money.
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No, but there's obviously no point in buying it while you do have Westlaw access.CliveStaples wrote:Because you are guaranteed to have Westlaw forever...
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CliveStaples wrote:Because you are guaranteed to have Westlaw forever...bk187 wrote:I don't feel like debating its worthlessness (which it is except possibly outside of closed book writing competitions that allow a physical copy of Black's), so I will just say that it's available on Westlaw for free.CliveStaples wrote:No.bk187 wrote:Both the app and the actual book are wastes of money.
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RC fail.CliveStaples wrote:Funny how you didn't want to debate it and yet there you are debating it... I love messing with law students!bk187 wrote:No, but there's obviously no point in buying it while you do have Westlaw access.CliveStaples wrote:Because you are guaranteed to have Westlaw forever...
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Intelligence fail.bk187 wrote:RC fail.CliveStaples wrote:Funny how you didn't want to debate it and yet there you are debating it... I love messing with law students!bk187 wrote:No, but there's obviously no point in buying it while you do have Westlaw access.CliveStaples wrote:Because you are guaranteed to have Westlaw forever...
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how's regent?Intelligence fail.
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It's nice, thanks for asking!twentypercentmore wrote:how's regent?Intelligence fail.
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I've got it on my phone, but I bought it with the iTunes gift card those cheap bastards include with a Mac now instead of a free iPod.bk187 wrote:I don't feel like debating its worthlessness (which it is except possibly outside of closed book writing competitions that allow a physical copy of Black's), so I will just say that it's available on Westlaw for free.CliveStaples wrote:No.bk187 wrote:Both the app and the actual book are wastes of money.
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I scanned one of my textbooks to try out reading and annotating on my iPad. It works great. I use Good Reader ($5) but there other apps like it. Great synch with Dropbox. Love the search function. Love the portability.CliveStaples wrote:Now that I'm a few months into law school I thought I'd share what I've learned about ipad use in class (and give my mind a break from studying contracts and property).
First, I didn't buy my ipad for law school, I already had it. I wouldn't recommend paying that kind of money just to use it in law school when you can get a good laptop for the same price.
I don't use mine for note taking in class (I prefer my comfort level with my laptop & OneNote) but I know several other students who do use it (with a bluetooth keyboard) and have no issues with it. I do, however, use it in almost every class because I have my syllabus and any pdf or other documents I need for the class on it.
Some apps I recommend:
Notability - Simple to use, just add a .pdf (I also use dropbox/the dropbox app to do this) and you can highlight material in multiple colors, scribble a note with your finger, or type in text. I also sync in .pdf to dropbox so anytime I change something it saves what I highlighted and I can view it on my computer too.
Black's Law Dictionary - Some people prefer lugging around a 25lb book but I'm fine with the digital copy. It's less expensive than a new one (though expensive compared to most apps at about $50) and you don't have to flip through the pages to find the word you're looking for. Also, the definitions contain links to West and other definitions to help you fully understand things. A bonus is that it has the ability to pronounce words so you can hear it before your professor makes fun of you for completely butchering some Latin word.
I signed up for Barbri so their study aid app is useful and you can download all their video lectures to your ipad and watch them even when you're not connected to the internet.
LexisAdvance & Westlaw Next both have apps that are simple and useful.
Study aids - I bought the Wolters & Kluwer Q&A app which I've enjoyed all the hypos so far (again pricey compared to most apps at about $20).
Lawstack/casebriefs - A lot of casebrief websites have their own apps so you can lookup briefs on the go.
If anyone knows of any other good apps for law school let me know.
I still use my laptop to take notes though.
I think I'll go all digital next semester.
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I'm getting an iPad for graduation and just want to remember this post...thanks for the help!!CliveStaples wrote:Now that I'm a few months into law school I thought I'd share what I've learned about ipad use in class (and give my mind a break from studying contracts and property).
First, I didn't buy my ipad for law school, I already had it. I wouldn't recommend paying that kind of money just to use it in law school when you can get a good laptop for the same price.
I don't use mine for note taking in class (I prefer my comfort level with my laptop & OneNote) but I know several other students who do use it (with a bluetooth keyboard) and have no issues with it. I do, however, use it in almost every class because I have my syllabus and any pdf or other documents I need for the class on it.
Some apps I recommend:
Notability - Simple to use, just add a .pdf (I also use dropbox/the dropbox app to do this) and you can highlight material in multiple colors, scribble a note with your finger, or type in text. I also sync in .pdf to dropbox so anytime I change something it saves what I highlighted and I can view it on my computer too.
Black's Law Dictionary - Some people prefer lugging around a 25lb book but I'm fine with the digital copy. It's less expensive than a new one (though expensive compared to most apps at about $50) and you don't have to flip through the pages to find the word you're looking for. Also, the definitions contain links to West and other definitions to help you fully understand things. A bonus is that it has the ability to pronounce words so you can hear it before your professor makes fun of you for completely butchering some Latin word.
I signed up for Barbri so their study aid app is useful and you can download all their video lectures to your ipad and watch them even when you're not connected to the internet.
LexisAdvance & Westlaw Next both have apps that are simple and useful.
Study aids - I bought the Wolters & Kluwer Q&A app which I've enjoyed all the hypos so far (again pricey compared to most apps at about $20).
Lawstack/casebriefs - A lot of casebrief websites have their own apps so you can lookup briefs on the go.
If anyone knows of any other good apps for law school let me know.
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Don't waste your money on Black's law dictionary.Lolo144 wrote:I'm getting an iPad for graduation and just want to remember this post...thanks for the help!!CliveStaples wrote:Now that I'm a few months into law school I thought I'd share what I've learned about ipad use in class (and give my mind a break from studying contracts and property).
First, I didn't buy my ipad for law school, I already had it. I wouldn't recommend paying that kind of money just to use it in law school when you can get a good laptop for the same price.
I don't use mine for note taking in class (I prefer my comfort level with my laptop & OneNote) but I know several other students who do use it (with a bluetooth keyboard) and have no issues with it. I do, however, use it in almost every class because I have my syllabus and any pdf or other documents I need for the class on it.
Some apps I recommend:
Notability - Simple to use, just add a .pdf (I also use dropbox/the dropbox app to do this) and you can highlight material in multiple colors, scribble a note with your finger, or type in text. I also sync in .pdf to dropbox so anytime I change something it saves what I highlighted and I can view it on my computer too.
Black's Law Dictionary - Some people prefer lugging around a 25lb book but I'm fine with the digital copy. It's less expensive than a new one (though expensive compared to most apps at about $50) and you don't have to flip through the pages to find the word you're looking for. Also, the definitions contain links to West and other definitions to help you fully understand things. A bonus is that it has the ability to pronounce words so you can hear it before your professor makes fun of you for completely butchering some Latin word.
I signed up for Barbri so their study aid app is useful and you can download all their video lectures to your ipad and watch them even when you're not connected to the internet.
LexisAdvance & Westlaw Next both have apps that are simple and useful.
Study aids - I bought the Wolters & Kluwer Q&A app which I've enjoyed all the hypos so far (again pricey compared to most apps at about $20).
Lawstack/casebriefs - A lot of casebrief websites have their own apps so you can lookup briefs on the go.
If anyone knows of any other good apps for law school let me know.
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