"Quality" of students at differing law schools Forum

[Dr.Zer0]

I am now on the edge of my seat to have the "Theory of Trickle-down Sandwhiches" explained to me. Seriously.

[beepboopbeep]

Prior to going to law school, TLS told me that law students are, as a lot, absolutely insufferable douchebags. I played it off, but they were right. I've met people who don't know how to smile, who think they're the center of the universe, and who subscribe to the theory of trickle-down sandwiches.

What's this? I'm intrigued, and I couldn't find anything in a search.

It's not a real theory, it's just something I was made aware of recently by one of my classmates. PMed with the story.

It's a fantastic story and I don't think he's a TLSer.

It's also absolutely heinous behavior that deserves public shaming.

[Crowing]

Prior to going to law school, TLS told me that law students are, as a lot, absolutely insufferable douchebags. I played it off, but they were right. I've met people who don't know how to smile, who think they're the center of the universe, and who subscribe to the theory of trickle-down sandwiches.

What's this? I'm intrigued, and I couldn't find anything in a search.

It's not a real theory, it's just something I was made aware of recently by one of my classmates. PMed with the story.

It's a fantastic story and I don't think he's a TLSer.

It's also absolutely heinous behavior that deserves public shaming.

Oh man I heard about this story. We've got a couple of "let them eat cake" types strutting around.

[UnicornHunter]

I tried searching but couldn't find anything though I am sure this has been talked about before. I am gunning for admission into a top school (hopefully with a big scholly!). I also know a lot of students at a local TTT. From what I have seen (which may certainly not be representative), they generally act like law school is an extension of college. There are lots of people who don't take their classes as seriously as I would assume is best, tend to be more interested in the social aspects of law school than the classes themselves, and generally don't seem to act as professional as I would assume law students would. I go down to the law school on some Saturdays to study and it is routinely empty.

Now I don't want to judge people too harshly. I am not a law student and I have absolutely no idea how mentally draining law school is and maybe I only see people during their break times. However, I cannot help but think that for some people, they simply do not care or maybe weren't fit for the life of an attorney to begin with. I mean, this school's medians are around 3.3 and a 156 and so they aren't exactly attracting the highest quality students by law school admissions standards.

My question is, should I be expecting this if I were to gain admission into a top school? In general, are people reflective of their GPA/LSAT scores? Do people at Penn, UVA, UChicago, Michigan, etc. behave differently than a TTT/TTTT grad would? I am highly interested because, while I don't want to sound like a dick, I always felt like I took college super seriously in comparison to my peers and it always kind of agitated me.

Once again, I don't want to stereotype. There are geniuses/dumbasses at almost every school. There are people who will inevitably take things seriously at TTT as people at Yale who probably don't give a shit.

I would not want to be seen at the Yacht Club or the Derby with someone who went to a school ranked under T17. T23 if you include my chauffeur. Otherwise, not quality enough.

[Nebby]

What is the trickle-down sandwich theory??!!

[elterrible78]

What is the trickle-down sandwich theory??!!

I guess Boop is right.

The short version of the story is that a group of us were doing some pro bono work at a homeless shelter, and had lunch brought in for both us (the students) and the clients (homeless people). The express understanding, reiterated in e-mails and verbal announcements, was that any leftover food would stay at the shelter to feed the homeless. I didn't even want to eat lunch, because I'd have rather the food went to someone else, but I figured whatever, there was a lot of food, and part of the whole idea was to eat lunch with the clients. As we were finishing up and leaving, though, a group of law students grabbed extra sandwiches, potato chips, sodas, cookies, etc., to take home with them. So, you know, in a way, TAKING FOOD FROM HOMELESS PEOPLE.

I mentioned this to one of the student government reps at school, and he just saw no problem with it. In fact, he lectured me, the homeless would be better off in the long run because we, as law students, have demanding lives, and need to meet our caloric requirements to study efficiently. And if we can meet those requirements, and study more efficiently, in the long run we will be better able to serve the homeless. So it really was in their benefit that we took the food, rather than leave it for them.

He wasn't joking.

[Nebby]

Oh my god. What a narcissistic monster.

[ymmv]

What is the trickle-down sandwich theory??!!

I guess Boop is right.

The short version of the story is that a group of us were doing some pro bono work at a homeless shelter, and had lunch brought in for both us (the students) and the clients (homeless people). The express understanding, reiterated in e-mails and verbal announcements, was that any leftover food would stay at the shelter to feed the homeless. I didn't even want to eat lunch, because I'd have rather the food went to someone else, but I figured whatever, there was a lot of food, and part of the whole idea was to eat lunch with the clients. As we were finishing up and leaving, though, a group of law students grabbed extra sandwiches, potato chips, sodas, cookies, etc., to take home with them. So, you know, in a way, TAKING FOOD FROM HOMELESS PEOPLE.

I mentioned this to one of the student government reps at school, and he just saw no problem with it. In fact, he lectured me, the homeless would be better off in the long run because we, as law students, have demanding lives, and need to meet our caloric requirements to study efficiently. And if we can meet those requirements, and study more efficiently, in the long run we will be better able to serve the homeless. So it really was in their benefit that we took the food, rather than leave it for them.

He wasn't joking.

This guy has a bright future on the Hill.

[IAFG]

God I love law students.

[iamgeorgebush]

What is the trickle-down sandwich theory??!!

I guess Boop is right.

The short version of the story is that a group of us were doing some pro bono work at a homeless shelter, and had lunch brought in for both us (the students) and the clients (homeless people). The express understanding, reiterated in e-mails and verbal announcements, was that any leftover food would stay at the shelter to feed the homeless. I didn't even want to eat lunch, because I'd have rather the food went to someone else, but I figured whatever, there was a lot of food, and part of the whole idea was to eat lunch with the clients. As we were finishing up and leaving, though, a group of law students grabbed extra sandwiches, potato chips, sodas, cookies, etc., to take home with them. So, you know, in a way, TAKING FOOD FROM HOMELESS PEOPLE.

I mentioned this to one of the student government reps at school, and he just saw no problem with it. In fact, he lectured me, the homeless would be better off in the long run because we, as law students, have demanding lives, and need to meet our caloric requirements to study efficiently. And if we can meet those requirements, and study more efficiently, in the long run we will be better able to serve the homeless. So it really was in their benefit that we took the food, rather than leave it for them.

He wasn't joking.

holy shit

[anyriotgirl]

What is the trickle-down sandwich theory??!!

I guess Boop is right.

The short version of the story is that a group of us were doing some pro bono work at a homeless shelter, and had lunch brought in for both us (the students) and the clients (homeless people). The express understanding, reiterated in e-mails and verbal announcements, was that any leftover food would stay at the shelter to feed the homeless. I didn't even want to eat lunch, because I'd have rather the food went to someone else, but I figured whatever, there was a lot of food, and part of the whole idea was to eat lunch with the clients. As we were finishing up and leaving, though, a group of law students grabbed extra sandwiches, potato chips, sodas, cookies, etc., to take home with them. So, you know, in a way, TAKING FOOD FROM HOMELESS PEOPLE.

I mentioned this to one of the student government reps at school, and he just saw no problem with it. In fact, he lectured me, the homeless would be better off in the long run because we, as law students, have demanding lives, and need to meet our caloric requirements to study efficiently. And if we can meet those requirements, and study more efficiently, in the long run we will be better able to serve the homeless. So it really was in their benefit that we took the food, rather than leave it for them.

He wasn't joking.

/self

[chup]

And try to remember that your law school doesn't necessarily determine how far your legal career will go. That's up to you and your character. Your brother went to TTTT right? That doesn't mean he's fucked. In fact, I'm sure he's doing fine.

I was doing some browsing on this firms website yesterday and the Managing Partner in the Singapore office was a guy who went to Hawaii.

This is flame, right?

[El Pollito]

And try to remember that your law school doesn't necessarily determine how far your legal career will go. That's up to you and your character. Your brother went to TTTT right? That doesn't mean he's fucked. In fact, I'm sure he's doing fine.

I was doing some browsing on this firms website yesterday and the Managing Partner in the Singapore office was a guy who went to Hawaii.

This is flame, right?

You don't have a character section on your resume?

[094320]

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[Nucky]

What is the trickle-down sandwich theory??!!

I guess Boop is right.

The short version of the story is that a group of us were doing some pro bono work at a homeless shelter, and had lunch brought in for both us (the students) and the clients (homeless people). The express understanding, reiterated in e-mails and verbal announcements, was that any leftover food would stay at the shelter to feed the homeless. I didn't even want to eat lunch, because I'd have rather the food went to someone else, but I figured whatever, there was a lot of food, and part of the whole idea was to eat lunch with the clients. As we were finishing up and leaving, though, a group of law students grabbed extra sandwiches, potato chips, sodas, cookies, etc., to take home with them. So, you know, in a way, TAKING FOOD FROM HOMELESS PEOPLE.

I mentioned this to one of the student government reps at school, and he just saw no problem with it. In fact, he lectured me, the homeless would be better off in the long run because we, as law students, have demanding lives, and need to meet our caloric requirements to study efficiently. And if we can meet those requirements, and study more efficiently, in the long run we will be better able to serve the homeless. So it really was in their benefit that we took the food, rather than leave it for them.

He wasn't joking.

Wow....

[UnicornHunter]

What is the trickle-down sandwich theory??!!

I guess Boop is right.

The short version of the story is that a group of us were doing some pro bono work at a homeless shelter, and had lunch brought in for both us (the students) and the clients (homeless people). The express understanding, reiterated in e-mails and verbal announcements, was that any leftover food would stay at the shelter to feed the homeless. I didn't even want to eat lunch, because I'd have rather the food went to someone else, but I figured whatever, there was a lot of food, and part of the whole idea was to eat lunch with the clients. As we were finishing up and leaving, though, a group of law students grabbed extra sandwiches, potato chips, sodas, cookies, etc., to take home with them. So, you know, in a way, TAKING FOOD FROM HOMELESS PEOPLE.

I mentioned this to one of the student government reps at school, and he just saw no problem with it. In fact, he lectured me, the homeless would be better off in the long run because we, as law students, have demanding lives, and need to meet our caloric requirements to study efficiently. And if we can meet those requirements, and study more efficiently, in the long run we will be better able to serve the homeless. So it really was in their benefit that we took the food, rather than leave it for them.

He wasn't joking.

Interested in this. What is, according to the Law and Economics model, the optimal caloric intake of a law student vs. a homeless person.

[elterrible78]

What is the trickle-down sandwich theory??!!

I guess Boop is right.

The short version of the story is that a group of us were doing some pro bono work at a homeless shelter, and had lunch brought in for both us (the students) and the clients (homeless people). The express understanding, reiterated in e-mails and verbal announcements, was that any leftover food would stay at the shelter to feed the homeless. I didn't even want to eat lunch, because I'd have rather the food went to someone else, but I figured whatever, there was a lot of food, and part of the whole idea was to eat lunch with the clients. As we were finishing up and leaving, though, a group of law students grabbed extra sandwiches, potato chips, sodas, cookies, etc., to take home with them. So, you know, in a way, TAKING FOOD FROM HOMELESS PEOPLE.

I mentioned this to one of the student government reps at school, and he just saw no problem with it. In fact, he lectured me, the homeless would be better off in the long run because we, as law students, have demanding lives, and need to meet our caloric requirements to study efficiently. And if we can meet those requirements, and study more efficiently, in the long run we will be better able to serve the homeless. So it really was in their benefit that we took the food, rather than leave it for them.

He wasn't joking.

Interested in this. What is, according to the Law and Economics model, the optimal caloric intake of a law student vs. a homeless person.

Ah, but you've made a flawed assumption, which is that this guy wasn't full of shit clear up to his eyeballs.

[UnicornHunter]

What is the trickle-down sandwich theory??!!

I guess Boop is right.

The short version of the story is that a group of us were doing some pro bono work at a homeless shelter, and had lunch brought in for both us (the students) and the clients (homeless people). The express understanding, reiterated in e-mails and verbal announcements, was that any leftover food would stay at the shelter to feed the homeless. I didn't even want to eat lunch, because I'd have rather the food went to someone else, but I figured whatever, there was a lot of food, and part of the whole idea was to eat lunch with the clients. As we were finishing up and leaving, though, a group of law students grabbed extra sandwiches, potato chips, sodas, cookies, etc., to take home with them. So, you know, in a way, TAKING FOOD FROM HOMELESS PEOPLE.

I mentioned this to one of the student government reps at school, and he just saw no problem with it. In fact, he lectured me, the homeless would be better off in the long run because we, as law students, have demanding lives, and need to meet our caloric requirements to study efficiently. And if we can meet those requirements, and study more efficiently, in the long run we will be better able to serve the homeless. So it really was in their benefit that we took the food, rather than leave it for them.

He wasn't joking.

Interested in this. What is, according to the Law and Economics model, the optimal caloric intake of a law student vs. a homeless person.

Ah, but you've made a flawed assumption

Probably because I didn't have enough calories when I wrote that post. Ten years down the road, a homeless person's going to wish I ate a sandwich for lunch today.

edit: I feel bad, OP's probably going to get agitated that I'm not quality enough to take his thread seriously. Just another reason for folks to pick H>Ruby, clearly letting the riff raff in at Hyde Park.

[spleenworship]

God I love law students.

Holy crap, ATL sighting!

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[elterrible78]

What is the trickle-down sandwich theory??!!

I guess Boop is right.

The short version of the story is that a group of us were doing some pro bono work at a homeless shelter, and had lunch brought in for both us (the students) and the clients (homeless people). The express understanding, reiterated in e-mails and verbal announcements, was that any leftover food would stay at the shelter to feed the homeless. I didn't even want to eat lunch, because I'd have rather the food went to someone else, but I figured whatever, there was a lot of food, and part of the whole idea was to eat lunch with the clients. As we were finishing up and leaving, though, a group of law students grabbed extra sandwiches, potato chips, sodas, cookies, etc., to take home with them. So, you know, in a way, TAKING FOOD FROM HOMELESS PEOPLE.

I mentioned this to one of the student government reps at school, and he just saw no problem with it. In fact, he lectured me, the homeless would be better off in the long run because we, as law students, have demanding lives, and need to meet our caloric requirements to study efficiently. And if we can meet those requirements, and study more efficiently, in the long run we will be better able to serve the homeless. So it really was in their benefit that we took the food, rather than leave it for them.

He wasn't joking.

These types of people are the thing I most fear in potentially going to law school. I HATE these types of people.

They're more like exceptions than the rule, but there are enough exceptions to make life frustrating.

[Single-Malt-Liquor]

God I love law students.

[anyriotgirl]

God I love law students.

Holy crap, ATL sighting!

good god where I googled and couldn't find it

[UnicornHunter]

God I love law students.

Holy crap, ATL sighting!

good god where I googled and couldn't find it

Not that I did the same thing or anything, but acrossthelake, not Above the Law.