Deciding where to attend? My perspective from biglaw Forum

[patogordo]

"And this is litigation," to anyone with the slightest faculty for reading comprehension, obviously meant "and I am in the litigation department," not "the things I have just listed perfectly circumscribe the field of litigation."

[downinDtown]

Your profile says you're applying for schools this year, so why are you pretending to know what you're talking about? Also, why are you so bad at it?

The Credo of the 0L, under the Douchebaggery Know-it-All section clearly states that: "0Ls must interject themselves into any and all discussions and attempt to demonstrate their intelligence at all costs to try and prove they belong." Don't fault 'em for it; he/she is just following the rules.

Maybe I should write the whole Credo of the 0L so all the other newbies know what to do....

ETA: And it should be obvious 0L doesn't know much about litigation, she isn't very good at arguing her points. "But, but, but ... I know what I'm talking about! Here, I'll repeat it again in more detail."

[Big Dog]

Unfortunately for me, I'll never get to be the lawyer I wanted,

I'm still confused as to what exactly that is? An idealistic view of a lawyer? (Will Gardner on the Good Wife, who spends his all of his days in court, but doesn't have to deal with paperwork?)

[AAJD2B]

http://[link redacted]/a56lnh

Your profile says you're applying for schools this year, so why are you pretending to know what you're talking about? Also, why are you so bad at it?

Thanks, I will read this article but skimming through it, it deals with litigation involving an IC for remedial purposes, and not due to "poorly drafted" agreements.

Oh, and I am not pretending. My previous work experience involved this type of work, but on the corporate side. Just because I am yet to be a law student does not mean I cannot comment. I used to train summers and first years who hadn't a clue, for goodness sake.

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http://[link redacted]/a56lnh

Your profile says you're applying for schools this year, so why are you pretending to know what you're talking about? Also, why are you so bad at it?

Thanks, I will read this article but skimming through it, it deals with litigation involving an IC for remedial purposes, and not due to "poorly drafted" agreements.

Oh, and I am not pretending. My previous work experience involved this type of work, but on the corporate side. Just because I am yet to be a law student does not mean I cannot comment. I used to train summers and first years who hadn't a clue, for goodness sake.

[JuTMSY4]

http://[link redacted]/a56lnh

Your profile says you're applying for schools this year, so why are you pretending to know what you're talking about? Also, why are you so bad at it?

Thanks, I will read this article but skimming through it, it deals with litigation involving an IC for remedial purposes, and not due to "poorly drafted" agreements.

Oh, and I am not pretending. My previous work experience involved this type of work, but on the corporate side. Just because I am yet to be a law student does not mean I cannot comment. I used to train summers and first years who hadn't a clue, for goodness sake.

However, the OP appears to be an actual real-life lawyer, who was likely once a summer and was a first year, "for goodness sake."

[IAFG]

I used to train summers and first years who hadn't a clue, for goodness sake.

The new "Harvard, actually."

[NYC-WVU]

I really can't bring myself to care about a credit agreement. And this is litigation.

This can't be right. Credit Agreements are strictly corporate, most likely in bank finance. It's not an aspect of litigation.

I really don't know anything about this subject. But perhaps the terms of a credit agreement are part of the litigation, or maybe the entire litigation is about the credit agreement? Isn't that possible?

Terms are negotiated and agreed upon before any deal is closed (ie executed) by all parties involved. There is seldom reasons for a suit as most credit agreements are entered into and perfected with security interest in the form of equity, real property (UCCs) or equipment, amongst other things.

The only reason where a suit might occur is if the terms of a credit agreement, usually in the form of an amendment to, were altered without the knowledge of the parties involved (ie investors, borrowers or at times participating lenders, separate from the Admin Agent who often stands to gain the most in such matters).

Like I said, CAs are not a part of litigation. The OP worded it in such a way where his/her statements were open to interpretation.

After which OP said "this is litigation". It is not. That is my gripe, and it makes me question his experience.

You acknowledged that his comment was open to interpretation. I'm also a 0L and know nothing about credit agreements, but I interpreted his statement as something like, "I've spent the last six months reading, analyzing, strategizing and/or arguing about some stupid credit agreement that I don't give two shits about. And I'm in not even in corporate, I'm in the goddamn litigation department!"
But, since you acknowledge that it's open to interpretation, you shouldn't have told him he "can't be right." Obviously, you've dug yourself too deep a hole now to just say: "You're right, I misunderstood." But that's really what you should say. The chances that this guy doesn't understand the work that he is doing, and either thinks he's in litigation when he's actually in corporate, or thinks he's litigating a CA when he's actually dealing with something else, or he's lying, are all really slim. Besides, I think a litigator could say I'm so tired of X, and you could fill in X with almost anything, cause pretty much anything could come up in a litigation.

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Thanks for posting OP

[chup]

Oh great, BlaqBella is back.

[AAJD2B]

I used to train summers and first years who hadn't a clue, for goodness sake.

The new "Harvard, actually."

Depressingly so.

[chup]

Oh great, BlaqBella is back.

Oh that's right I forgot we permabanned you. Any last words?

[AAJD2B]

Oh great, BlaqBella is back.

Oh that's right I forgot we permabanned you. Any last words?

Pardon??? Banned for what?? I have no clue who blaqbella is and I am not that person.

[Mauve.Dino]

*prepares popcorn*

[chup]

Oh great, BlaqBella is back.

Oh that's right I forgot we permabanned you. Any last words?

Pardon??? Banned for what?? I have no clue who blaqbella is and I am not that person.

You don't understand how IP addresses work, do you?

[AAJD2B]

Oh great, BlaqBella is back.

Oh that's right I forgot we permabanned you. Any last words?

Pardon??? Banned for what?? I have no clue who blaqbella is and I am not that person.

You don't understand how IP addresses work, do you?

This is quite unfortunate. I am not who you think I am. I post from my iPad and have only recently started being active on TLS from late last year. Wow. And just because I spoke my mind? Unfortunate.

I also thought IPs are banned if banned permanently. If I was the same person won't I be unable to post ? How unfortunate. If I must be banned please give me a moment to say goodbye to my URM TLS family.

[ggocat]

Any last words?

This can't be right. ...

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3#p6415650

This can't be right. ...

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2#p7576245

[Mauve.Dino]

I love this thread so much

[chup]

Hattip to El Pollito on sniffing this one out.

[John Everyman]

To be fair, at my work of 500+ employees, we all have the same IP address because we all route through the same server. It's not completely implausible that she could have the same IP as someone who got banned. Maybe a university network?

[NYC-WVU]

To be fair, at my work of 500+ employees, we all have the same IP address because we all route through the same server. It's not completely implausible that she could have the same IP as someone who got banned. Maybe a university network?

But she used the same four word sentence and the same emoticon. Clearly it's the same person.

[John Everyman]

To be fair, at my work of 500+ employees, we all have the same IP address because we all route through the same server. It's not completely implausible that she could have the same IP as someone who got banned. Maybe a university network?

But she used the same four word sentence and the same emoticon. Clearly it's the same person.

Hah, well she didn't use the emoticon actually. There are quite a few similarities between the two accounts. Still, I'm generally more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt.

[August Wilson]

To be fair, at my work of 500+ employees, we all have the same IP address because we all route through the same server. It's not completely implausible that she could have the same IP as someone who got banned. Maybe a university network?

But she used the same four word sentence and the same emoticon. Clearly it's the same person.

Hah, well she didn't use the emoticon actually. There are quite a few similarities between the two accounts. Still, I'm generally more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt.

What are the other similarities?

[John Everyman]

To be fair, at my work of 500+ employees, we all have the same IP address because we all route through the same server. It's not completely implausible that she could have the same IP as someone who got banned. Maybe a university network?

But she used the same four word sentence and the same emoticon. Clearly it's the same person.

Hah, well she didn't use the emoticon actually. There are quite a few similarities between the two accounts. Still, I'm generally more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt.

What are the other similarities?

Two (sorry, quite a few was an exaggeration):

Both AA URM
Very similar vocabulary and language style.

Full Disclosure: I have no real interest in her staying or going, just bored at work.

[EvMont]

Oh great, BlaqBella is back.

Oh that's right I forgot we permabanned you. Any last words?

Pardon??? Banned for what?? I have no clue who blaqbella is and I am not that person.

You don't understand how IP addresses work, do you?

Dude, maybe you don't know how IP addresses work. They aren't unique to individuals or individual devices. ISPs can and often do lump users together allowing for a situation were multiple entities can have and use the same IP address. Google it, bruh. If your gonna come for people, you better come correct or just take seat.