What are the worst ABA approved law schools? Forum

[Samara]

Cooley, TJSoL, Touro, or most schools with the name "Southern, Western, Northern..." as part of their name.

Heeeeeeeey...

cal-western, western state, western new england...? all lower tier3/tier4

And NorthWESTTTERN!

[silentbob]

how do you know who the moderators are on here?

[Samara]

how do you know who the moderators are on here?

They are the ones with the red, purple, or pink usernames.

[Nova]

I was just curious if anyone had a ranking for the ten worst schools in the US. Ive heard Cooley is really bad, but havent heard of any other really shitty schools. Also, at what point is a school labeled TTTT instead of TTT??

Add Nova for sure.

No relation.

Here in TTTX, ttthe worsttt schools, based on employmenttt prospecttts, are TTTexas SouTTThern and TTTexas WesTTTleyan.

The good folks at Constitutional Daily analyzed data from Law School Transparency and compiled a list of law schools with underemployment scores higher than their employment scores. (Visit Constitutional Daily for further details.)

Basically, these schools have more underemployed graduates than employed ones, according to LST's numbers.

That sounds pretty bad to me.

Here are the 14 schools ranked by the difference between their underemployment and employment scores (h/t TaxProf Blog):

1. Santa Clara (-28.2%)
2. Florida A&M (-25.0%)
3. Golden Gate (-19.5%)
4. San Francisco (-15.1%)
5. Barry (-13.2%)
6. Whittier (-13.1%)
7. Chapman (-11.7%)
8. Western New England (-10.4%)
9. Florida Coastal (-6.7%)
10. Detroit-Mercy (-4.9%)
11. John Marshall (-3.6%)
12. Thomas Jefferson (-2.7%)
13. Thomas Cooley (-1.4%)
14. Ave Maria (-1.2%)

There are another 5 schools that comprise a list of dishonorable mention. Their Employment Score is lower than their combined Under-Employment Score and unknown employment status rates. They are: California Western, Texas Wesleyan, New England, Liberty, Capital.

And then there are these 16 schools which do not provide enough data to calculate either an Employment Score or Unemployment Score: Appalachian School of Law, Boston University, Florida International University, Georgia State University, Indiana University - Indianapolis, Inter American University, New York University, North Carolina Central University, Phoenix School of Law, Pontifical Catholic University of Puerto Rico, University of La Verne, University of Puerto Rico, University of Richmond, University of South Dakota, University of Southern California, and University of The District of Columbia.

http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/wo ... stics.html

[Br3v]

lolz nova.

[SaintsTheMetal]

Not sure I'd say its the worst, but for worst value I'd have to go with Golden Gate. Super high Bay Area COL, competes with higher ranked Stanford, UCB, UCH, UCD, SCU, and USF for Bay Area jobs, Bay Area market sucks, high tuition, something like 40% of GGU kids pass the bar on their first try, 31% FT legal employment

[Nova]

does cooley even offer scholarships? or do they just take everyone who applies and make them pay an arm and a leg to attend?

Cooley Schollys:

LSAT Score /Tuition Scholarship
163+ 100%
158-162 75%
153-157 50%
149-152 25%

http://www.cooley.edu/prospective/scholarships.html

lolz nova.

[Mr. Pancakes]

I think the T4s in Cali are the worst, followed by the T4s in New York, and the the T4s in Florida. I'm basing this off COA mainly, or just saying words.

[Mr. Pancakes]

Silentbob, I PM'd you about the question you had in the other thread.

[moonman157]

Don't go to capital if your only option is in columbus ohio

[LSAT>LDAC]

well, I havent taken the lsat yet, so its hard to say. But, im trying to get a feel for what would be the worst and best case scenerios.

Well in this case they are pretty much synonymous, with respect to attending g law school with th intention of being an employed attorney.

[3ThrowAway99]

Cooley, TJSoL, Touro, or most schools with the name "Southern, Western, Northern..." as part of their name.

LMAO! Tru dat

[3ThrowAway99]

does cooley even offer scholarships? or do they just take everyone who applies and make them pay an arm and a leg to attend?

Cooley Schollys:

LSAT Score /Tuition Scholarship
163+ 100%
158-162 75%
153-157 50%
149-152 25%

http://www.cooley.edu/prospective/scholarships.html

lolz nova.

Wow. That sucks.. only 100% for 163+ at Cooley? But then again, I guess that means you could have a 2.0 GPA and still get it...

[bernaldiaz]

Cooley, TJSoL, Touro, or most schools with the name "Southern, Western, Northern..." as part of their name.

Heeeeeeeey...

cal-western, western state, western new england...? all lower tier3/tier4

...Northwestern

[Mr. Pancakes]

Cooley, TJSoL, Touro, or most schools with the name "Southern, Western, Northern..." as part of their name.

Heeeeeeeey...

cal-western, western state, western new england...? all lower tier3/tier4

...Northwestern

....SOUTHERN california is TTTT

[2014]

does cooley even offer scholarships? or do they just take everyone who applies and make them pay an arm and a leg to attend?

Yeah they have a calculator on their website that tells you what your scholarship will be. None of that scholarship committee bs.

[silentbob]

does cooley even offer scholarships? or do they just take everyone who applies and make them pay an arm and a leg to attend?

Cooley Schollys:

LSAT Score /Tuition Scholarship
163+ 100%
158-162 75%
153-157 50%
149-152 25%

http://www.cooley.edu/prospective/scholarships.html

lolz nova.

WOW, people with LSATs that high go to Cooley???? I know someone(who is NOT a minority) that got a 75% scholarship to Valporaso with a 151!

[silentbob]

Not only that but Ive been told I could recieve a very good scholarship to SIU in carbondale if I got up to a 158! Which is my hope btw!

[Mr. Pancakes]

Not only that but Ive been told I could recieve a very good scholarship to SIU in carbondale if I got up to a 158! Which is my hope btw!

SIU has very low in-state tuition. Their 75th percentile LSAT is 156. If you score above that then you could be looking at a nice scholarship.
In-state tuition at a discount isn't a bad option.

[silentbob]

Is it likely I would get offered anything if I ended up with a 155? Im an ILL resident so I would already get the in state which is good.

[woeisme]

I was just curious if anyone had a ranking for the worst schools in the US. Ive heard Cooley is really bad, but havent heard of any other really shitty schools. What are the bottom 5 or so? Also, at what point is a school labeled TTTT instead of TTT??

Every "stand-alone" law school NOT named Southwestern;

every law school tied to a college or university not in the national top-125;

every law school conceived after 1995 NOT named UC-Irvine;

every law school facetiously located near, in or around New England but NOT named Harvard, Yale, BU, BC, Vermont, Uconn, UMass, or Suffolk;

every law school in the state of Illinois NOT named Northwestern, U-Chicago, Illinois, Chicago-Kent or Loyola-Chicago;

every Loyola other than those from Chicago and L.A.;

most law schools connected to schools without top football or basketball programs;

every law school in Texas not named U-Texas-Austin, Baylor, SMU, or Houston;

every law school in Florida NOT named Florida State, U-Florida or Miami;

almost every law school tied to a Big-12 Athletic conference college/university;

every law school with fewer than 10 black people, except for UC-Irvine (correlation not causation);

I could go on, but...

DePaul > Suffolk, but yeah

[Mr. Pancakes]

Is it likely I would get offered anything if I ended up with a 155? Im an ILL resident so I would already get the in state which is good.

Bro, check out lawschoolnumbers.com

[dr123]

I was just curious if anyone had a ranking for the worst schools in the US. Ive heard Cooley is really bad, but havent heard of any other really shitty schools. What are the bottom 5 or so? Also, at what point is a school labeled TTTT instead of TTT??

Every "stand-alone" law school NOT named Southwestern;

every law school tied to a college or university not in the national top-125;

every law school conceived after 1995 NOT named UC-Irvine;

every law school facetiously located near, in or around New England but NOT named Harvard, Yale, BU, BC, Vermont, Uconn, UMass, or Suffolk;

every law school in the state of Illinois NOT named Northwestern, U-Chicago, Illinois, Chicago-Kent or Loyola-Chicago;

every Loyola other than those from Chicago and L.A.;

most law schools connected to schools without top football or basketball programs;

every law school in Texas not named U-Texas-Austin, Baylor, SMU, or Houston;

every law school in Florida NOT named Florida State, U-Florida or Miami;

almost every law school tied to a Big-12 Athletic conference college/university;

every law school with fewer than 10 black people, except for UC-Irvine (correlation not causation);

I could go on, but...

UMass doesnt have an ABA approved law school bro

[juicyj]

Not only that but Ive been told I could recieve a very good scholarship to SIU in carbondale if I got up to a 158! Which is my hope btw!

Carbondale denied me with a 167...don't set your hopes too high lol

[silentbob]

they denied you with a 167?!?!?! Please tell me you have a felony or had like a 1.5 GPA? There must be a good reason for you to get denied with that score.