aliarrow wrote:Oh they existCapitol A wrote:No such thing.kalvano wrote:I do hate cheap flip-flops though. They make annoying sounds. If you plan on wearing flip-flops, at least spend $20 and get a nicer pair.
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aliarrow wrote:Oh they existCapitol A wrote:No such thing.kalvano wrote:I do hate cheap flip-flops though. They make annoying sounds. If you plan on wearing flip-flops, at least spend $20 and get a nicer pair.
Capitol A wrote:No such thing.kalvano wrote:I do hate cheap flip-flops though. They make annoying sounds. If you plan on wearing flip-flops, at least spend $20 and get a nicer pair.
Sandals > flip-flops.Capitol A wrote:+1 in Phoenix. A man in sandals is not a man, except maybe at the beach. Even then...aliarrow wrote:I come fromkalvano wrote: When it's 105 degrees outside, flip-flops are the only correct footwear.hellFlorida and I still find flip-flops on males disgusting.
Expensive =/= nice.aliarrow wrote:Oh they existCapitol A wrote:No such thing.kalvano wrote:I do hate cheap flip-flops though. They make annoying sounds. If you plan on wearing flip-flops, at least spend $20 and get a nicer pair.
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lol. From unabashedlyprep.com:Capitol A wrote:That's okay. These guys are, and they are willing/able to help:ahduth wrote:I think both are avoided, because they look less dressy. For "working" suits, they're fine. But if you're going to an "event," such as an interview, they're not going to look as classy as non-cuffed, non-pleated pants. That's just my take however, I'm not exactly a sartorial god over here.kalvano wrote:vamedic03 wrote:Also, as to fastfoward's advice re: suits - there is no reason to avoid pleats with suit pants. It's one thing if you don't like pleated slacks, but many fine quality suits have pleated pants. Pleats are designed to make the suit more comfortable to sit in and no one notices them when work as a suit.
+1.
Also, why the hell would you avoid cuffed pants? That looks weird, especially on suits.
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Yeah, I guess I've been dealing with too many consulting types, where you look weird if you have a tie. I've always associated cuffs and pleats with people who weren't quite with it, old and out of date. I think I need to re-orient myself in terms of what industry I'm working in here...vamedic03 wrote:Less dressy? A conservative suit has cuffed pants and pleated pants. And conservative and traditional is a better approach for an interview.ahduth wrote:I think both are avoided, because they look less dressy. For "working" suits, they're fine. But if you're going to an "event," such as an interview, they're not going to look as classy as non-cuffed, non-pleated pants. That's just my take however, I'm not exactly a sartorial god over here.kalvano wrote:vamedic03 wrote:Also, as to fastfoward's advice re: suits - there is no reason to avoid pleats with suit pants. It's one thing if you don't like pleated slacks, but many fine quality suits have pleated pants. Pleats are designed to make the suit more comfortable to sit in and no one notices them when work as a suit.
+1.
Also, why the hell would you avoid cuffed pants? That looks weird, especially on suits.
I might get skewered for saying this, but I think it can also depend on which coast you're practicing. I'm not suggesting that you should go with jeans and a blazer if you're on the west coast, but the more fashion-forward approach might be more appreciated by the Pacific.ahduth wrote:Yeah, I guess I've been dealing with too many consulting types, where you look weird if you have a tie. I've always associated cuffs and pleats with people who weren't quite with it, old and out of date. I think I need to re-orient myself in terms of what industry I'm working in here...vamedic03 wrote:Less dressy? A conservative suit has cuffed pants and pleated pants. And conservative and traditional is a better approach for an interview.ahduth wrote:
I think both are avoided, because they look less dressy. For "working" suits, they're fine. But if you're going to an "event," such as an interview, they're not going to look as classy as non-cuffed, non-pleated pants. That's just my take however, I'm not exactly a sartorial god over here.
LOLOLOLOL WUT?geoduck wrote:
I might get skewered for saying this, but I think it can also depend on which coast you're practicing. I'm not suggesting that you should go with jeans and a blazer if you're on the west coast, but the more fashion-forward approach might be more appreciated by the Pacific.
Business garb in general is significantly more relaxed out here. And business casual jeans exist and are worn, and not just on Fridays. Obviously lawyers would dress on the more conservative side and I really have no insight into how much of the relaxed wear has leaked into lawyer wear. It is just my reasoning that, given the lowered importance of minor suit details in business wear here, it is less likely that anyone would notice or mind the less conservative look of no pleats/no cuffs. Taken to the extreme, that logic might suggest that to go with the more conservative look might actually make you look out of date, similar to how you'd look putting on morning dress to go to an interview on the east coast.aliarrow wrote:LOLOLOLOL WUT?geoduck wrote:
I might get skewered for saying this, but I think it can also depend on which coast you're practicing. I'm not suggesting that you should go with jeans and a blazer if you're on the west coast, but the more fashion-forward approach might be more appreciated by the Pacific.
jk I have no idea, but I'd love to hear from someone who does.
I didn't say, or even suggest that anyone copy exactly what they see on those sites, but if we are discussing bringing together the right details for looking sharp/well put together, we can definitely draw some inspiration from those sources.Capitol A wrote:
ahduth wrote:
kalvano wrote:
vamedic03 wrote:
Also, as to fastfoward's advice re: suits - there is no reason to avoid pleats with suit pants. It's one thing if you don't like pleated slacks, but many fine quality suits have pleated pants. Pleats are designed to make the suit more comfortable to sit in and no one notices them when work as a suit.
+1.
Also, why the hell would you avoid cuffed pants? That looks weird, especially on suits.
I think both are avoided, because they look less dressy. For "working" suits, they're fine. But if you're going to an "event," such as an interview, they're not going to look as classy as non-cuffed, non-pleated pants. That's just my take however, I'm not exactly a sartorial god over here.
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lol. From unabashedlyprep.com:
You should wear that to your interviews.
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aliarrow wrote:LOLOLOLOL WUT?geoduck wrote:
I might get skewered for saying this, but I think it can also depend on which coast you're practicing. I'm not suggesting that you should go with jeans and a blazer if you're on the west coast, but the more fashion-forward approach might be more appreciated by the Pacific.
jk I have no idea, but I'd love to hear from someone who does.
Is it a coastal thing or just a NYC vs Everywhere else thing?kalvano wrote:
Actually, I have heard several times that that is the case.
Well at least you got noticed?Rock Chalk wrote:
I thought I'd go business casual to the first 1L reception hosted by a firm and I was the only person there NOT in a suit.
aliarrow wrote:Is it a coastal thing or just a NYC vs Everywhere else thing?kalvano wrote:
Actually, I have heard several times that that is the case.
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DC is also supposed to be very conservative, maybe moreso than NYC.aliarrow wrote:Is it a coastal thing or just a NYC vs Everywhere else thing?kalvano wrote:
Actually, I have heard several times that that is the case.
This is true. No one in the northeast (or even most of the midwest) would ever think chinos and a polo shirt was business casual; in California that's damn near formalwear.kalvano wrote:aliarrow wrote:Is it a coastal thing or just a NYC vs Everywhere else thing?kalvano wrote:
Actually, I have heard several times that that is the case.
I've heard it's just an overall much more casual atmosphere on the West Coast as opposed to everywhere else in terms of dress.
I can tell you that my wardrobe/style very closely mirrors the looks on those sites, and I have never met a woman who didn't think I was well dressed. Im pretty sure that's all that matters.kalvano wrote:All of those website were awful.
Capitol A wrote:I can tell you that my wardrobe/style very closely mirrors the looks on those sites, and I have never met a woman who didn't think I was well dressed. Im pretty sure that's all that matters.kalvano wrote:All of those website were awful.
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Agreed. Those styles are just so cute and snuggly which helps on the battlefield.Capitol A wrote:I can tell you that my wardrobe/style very closely mirrors the looks on those sites, and I have never met a woman who didn't think I was well dressed. Im pretty sure that's all that matters.kalvano wrote:All of those website were awful.
I think formal may be a better word choice than dressy here.geoduck wrote:ahduth wrote:vamedic03 wrote:Less dressy? A conservative suit has cuffed pants and pleated pants. And conservative and traditional is a better approach for an interview.ahduth wrote:
I think both are avoided, because they look less dressy. For "working" suits, they're fine. But if you're going to an "event," such as an interview, they're not going to look as classy as non-cuffed, non-pleated pants. That's just my take however, I'm not exactly a sartorial god over here.
AutoF0cus wrote:I think formal may be a better word choice than dressy here.
For anything up to business casual cuffed pants are acceptable (and pleated or flat front is really just personal preference). But as you get more formal, the suit is supposed to start to resemble a tux, which has no cuffs and have a current fashion trend of getting away from pleats.
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