HA1L THE CLASS OF 2020 [[Michigan]] Forum

[brinicolec]

Toured Foundry Lofts. Touring another luxury apartment tomorrow. Didn't take a lot of pictures, but have a few. Also can tell anyone interested about the amenities or whatever else.

[IcarusOnWheels]

Is anyone meeting with financial aid while there? I know they "don't negotiate" and even if I do end up trying to negotiate I doubt it would be the proper time, so I'm not sure if there is a real point to it except to discuss LRAP.

I'd definitely shoot them an email. Last year, they said the same "we don't negotiate" deal, but negotiated with me....

Did you do that while at ASW in person?

I shot them an email and then called them up. I didn't go to ASW, but I don't think it would hurt to try and schedule an appointment with them to talk about your needs. Otherwise, email and telephone worked for me.

[amberb94]

I'm 90% sure my fiancé and I will be at Michigan in the fall. He got into the MPP program but with no merit aid. I got 75k. So we will be very in debt in a few years. However, we accumulated no debt in undergrad. Worth it? Please say it's worth it.

[herecomesthesun]

I'm no help on the SO's program/debt for that, but I also didn't accumulate debt in undergrad (woo). it definitely made my decision to take on law school debt much easier.

[brinicolec]

Update after day 1 of ASW: I really like this place -- not ready to say "love" yet... but perhaps soon lol

[airwrecka]

Update after day 1 of ASW: I really like this place -- not ready to say "love" yet... but perhaps soon lol

Yay! What stands out to you the most so far?

[brinicolec]

Update after day 1 of ASW: I really like this place -- not ready to say "love" yet... but perhaps soon lol

Yay! What stands out to you the most so far?

People seem to have a genuine love for the school that doesn't seem forced or fake, and I feel like I fit in very well.

[pipipipi]

Can someone tell me how summer starters are able to save 10k? It is a huge amount for me, so sorry for making it huge font size...

As far as I understand, summer starters pay the middle 5 semesters exactly the same as others (the 5 semesters that spend with fall starters), so the only difference is you pay 0L tuition for your first semester while others pay 3L tuition for their last semester.

Since the tuition for one semester is roughly 28,000, if we are assuming the tuition goes up 5% every year, so difference between one semester of 0L tuition and 3L tuition would be: 28k*5%*1.05*1.05=1.5k right? Even if we factor in inflation in COL and maybe interest rates, I am still confused about how this is able to save 10K over three years. Am I getting something wrong?

Thanks for everyone who clarifies for me!

[Toodle-loo]

Can someone tell me how summer starters are able to save 10k? It is a huge amount for me, so sorry for making it huge font size...

As far as I understand, summer starters pay the middle 5 semesters exactly the same as others (the 5 semesters that spend with fall starters), so the only difference is you pay 0L tuition for your first semester while others pay 3L tuition for their last semester.

Since the tuition for one semester is roughly 28,000, if we are assuming the tuition goes up 5% every year, so difference between one semester of 0L tuition and 3L tuition would be: 28k*5%*1.05*1.05=1.5k right? Even if we factor in inflation in COL and maybe interest rates, I am still confused about how this is able to save 10K over three years. Am I getting something wrong?

Thanks for everyone who clarifies for me!

I'm not sure exactly where they get that figure, but I saved an ASS LOAD on housing over the summer. Everyone needs subletters, so I got a 2br with all utilities included, cable, wifi, & a covered parking space for only $500/month, and I could walk to school in ~15 mins. Plus the semester was only 2 months, so instead of paying 3-5 months' rent for a semester, I only paid a very discounted 2 months. Perhaps that's some of the savings?

[Toodle-loo]

1.5L here (3rd semester Summer Starter) willing to answer questions or meet up with anyone. Hope your visits are great!

[twochipmunks]

Can someone tell me how summer starters are able to save 10k? It is a huge amount for me, so sorry for making it huge font size...

As far as I understand, summer starters pay the middle 5 semesters exactly the same as others (the 5 semesters that spend with fall starters), so the only difference is you pay 0L tuition for your first semester while others pay 3L tuition for their last semester.

Since the tuition for one semester is roughly 28,000, if we are assuming the tuition goes up 5% every year, so difference between one semester of 0L tuition and 3L tuition would be: 28k*5%*1.05*1.05=1.5k right? Even if we factor in inflation in COL and maybe interest rates, I am still confused about how this is able to save 10K over three years. Am I getting something wrong?

Thanks for everyone who clarifies for me!

I'm not sure exactly where they get that figure, but I saved an ASS LOAD on housing over the summer. Everyone needs subletters, so I got a 2br with all utilities included, cable, wifi, & a covered parking space for only $500/month, and I could walk to school in ~15 mins. Plus the semester was only 2 months, so instead of paying 3-5 months' rent for a semester, I only paid a very discounted 2 months. Perhaps that's some of the savings?

Well to see the difference in cost of that one semester you'd need to do (28k*1.05*1.05) - 28k = $2,870. Then take into account the extra savings mentioned above, and then take into account the compounding interest you would have otherwise on those extra savings for a 10-year repayment plan. I don't know about 10k, but I could see how you could theoretically get close to that calculation.

[pipipipi]

Can someone tell me how summer starters are able to save 10k? It is a huge amount for me, so sorry for making it huge font size...

As far as I understand, summer starters pay the middle 5 semesters exactly the same as others (the 5 semesters that spend with fall starters), so the only difference is you pay 0L tuition for your first semester while others pay 3L tuition for their last semester.

Since the tuition for one semester is roughly 28,000, if we are assuming the tuition goes up 5% every year, so difference between one semester of 0L tuition and 3L tuition would be: 28k*5%*1.05*1.05=1.5k right? Even if we factor in inflation in COL and maybe interest rates, I am still confused about how this is able to save 10K over three years. Am I getting something wrong?

Thanks for everyone who clarifies for me!

I'm not sure exactly where they get that figure, but I saved an ASS LOAD on housing over the summer. Everyone needs subletters, so I got a 2br with all utilities included, cable, wifi, & a covered parking space for only $500/month, and I could walk to school in ~15 mins. Plus the semester was only 2 months, so instead of paying 3-5 months' rent for a semester, I only paid a very discounted 2 months. Perhaps that's some of the savings?

Well to see the difference in cost of that one semester you'd need to do (28k*1.05*1.05) - 28k = $2,870. Then take into account the extra savings mentioned above, and then take into account the compounding interest you would have otherwise on those extra savings for a 10-year repayment plan. I don't know about 10k, but I could see how you could theoretically get close to that calculation.

Thanks for the correction. Some how I was calculating the difference between 3L semester and 2L semester, instead of that between OL and 3L, stupid me.

Since we benefit from a 0L tuition, the 3L tuition semester we don't have to pay is 28k*1.05^3 right? (not it mattered, it is $3,240 if that is the case. I am just "amazed" my stupidness in my previous calculation, thanks for making it a lot easier to understand!)

[twochipmunks]

Can someone tell me how summer starters are able to save 10k? It is a huge amount for me, so sorry for making it huge font size...

As far as I understand, summer starters pay the middle 5 semesters exactly the same as others (the 5 semesters that spend with fall starters), so the only difference is you pay 0L tuition for your first semester while others pay 3L tuition for their last semester.

Since the tuition for one semester is roughly 28,000, if we are assuming the tuition goes up 5% every year, so difference between one semester of 0L tuition and 3L tuition would be: 28k*5%*1.05*1.05=1.5k right? Even if we factor in inflation in COL and maybe interest rates, I am still confused about how this is able to save 10K over three years. Am I getting something wrong?

Thanks for everyone who clarifies for me!

I'm not sure exactly where they get that figure, but I saved an ASS LOAD on housing over the summer. Everyone needs subletters, so I got a 2br with all utilities included, cable, wifi, & a covered parking space for only $500/month, and I could walk to school in ~15 mins. Plus the semester was only 2 months, so instead of paying 3-5 months' rent for a semester, I only paid a very discounted 2 months. Perhaps that's some of the savings?

Well to see the difference in cost of that one semester you'd need to do (28k*1.05*1.05) - 28k = $2,870. Then take into account the extra savings mentioned above, and then take into account the compounding interest you would have otherwise on those extra savings for a 10-year repayment plan. I don't know about 10k, but I could see how you could theoretically get close to that calculation.

Thanks for the correction. Some how I was calculating the difference between 3L semester and 2L semester, instead of that between OL and 3L, stupid me.

Since we benefit from a 0L tuition, the 3L tuition semester we don't have to pay is 28k*1.05^3 right? (not it mattered, it is $3,240 if that is the case. I am just "amazed" my stupidness in my previous calculation, thanks for making it a lot easier to understand!)

It'll go up twice from whatever the cost of the first semester is. If 28k represents first semester's tuition, it'll be 1.05^2. But I don't believe they've set next year's tuition yet; but the difference between 1L and 3L will be about the same regardless.

[Anon.y.mousse.]

see you guys at ricks tonight!

[pipipipi]

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I thought summer starters pay
0L: 2016-2017 tuition for the first semester,
while fall starters others pay
1L: 2017-2018
2L: 2018-2019
3L: 2019-2020 tuition

thus the tuition increased three times from 2016-2017 standard to 2019-2020 tuition?

(Feel like I have forgiven all my high school math...)

[UghNonAmus]

see you guys at ricks tonight!

Damn near actually ended up there. That Live whatever the fuck on S 1st seemed similar enough though.

Also Ann Arbor is Heaven and everyone should go here. 75 yesterday def helped

[twochipmunks]

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I thought summer starters pay
0L: 2016-2017 tuition for the first semester,
while fall starters others pay
1L: 2017-2018
2L: 2018-2019
3L: 2019-2020 tuition

thus the tuition increased three times from 2016-2017 standard to 2019-2020 tuition?

(Feel like I have forgiven all my high school math...)

According to the admitted students site, tuition for summer is set in March 2017 at the same time as tuition for the rest of 17-18. So that should be happening this week.

[brinicolec]

see you guys at ricks tonight!

Damn near actually ended up there. That Live whatever the fuck on S 1st seemed similar enough though.

Also Ann Arbor is Heaven and everyone should go here. 75 yesterday def helped

Wtf. All you people are here and I still have no idea who's who

I haven't stepped foot in Rick's yet. Was at Live yesterday though.

Edit: Bolded - agreed. And now it's back in the 40s

[chandhi]

Head over heels in love. Pretty sure I'm attending. Just bought a whole lot of stuff from the M Den and took selfies in the law quad lol

[brinicolec]

Head over heels in love. Pretty sure I'm attending. Just bought a whole lot of stuff from the M Den and took selfies in the law quad lol

I was literally JUST in the M Den lol.

Edit: when you're highkey decided but don't want admissions to know cause they haven't shown you the money yet lol

[UghNonAmus]

see you guys at ricks tonight!

Damn near actually ended up there. That Live whatever the fuck on S 1st seemed similar enough though.

Also Ann Arbor is Heaven and everyone should go here. 75 yesterday def helped

Wtf. All you people are here and I still have no idea who's who

I haven't stepped foot in Rick's yet. Was at Live yesterday though.

Edit: Bolded - agreed. And now it's back in the 40s

Haha, I felt like I was meeting so many people that I doubt I'll even remember anyone's names next time around. My roommate never showed back up last night and hadn't returned as of 11:30 this morning. I just assume he succeeded where I'd failed last evening, but who knows.

[brinicolec]

see you guys at ricks tonight!

Damn near actually ended up there. That Live whatever the fuck on S 1st seemed similar enough though.

Also Ann Arbor is Heaven and everyone should go here. 75 yesterday def helped

Wtf. All you people are here and I still have no idea who's who

I haven't stepped foot in Rick's yet. Was at Live yesterday though.

Edit: Bolded - agreed. And now it's back in the 40s

Haha, I felt like I was meeting so many people that I doubt I'll even remember anyone's names next time around. My roommate never showed back up last night and hadn't returned as of 11:30 this morning. I just assume he succeeded where I'd failed last evening, but who knows.

I'm actually surprised by how many names of potential future classmates I remember lol. I'm also pretty sure this wishy-washy weather is making me catch a cold but it's fine

[dclaw93]

see you guys at ricks tonight!

Damn near actually ended up there. That Live whatever the fuck on S 1st seemed similar enough though.

Also Ann Arbor is Heaven and everyone should go here. 75 yesterday def helped

Wtf. All you people are here and I still have no idea who's who

I haven't stepped foot in Rick's yet. Was at Live yesterday though.

Edit: Bolded - agreed. And now it's back in the 40s

Haha, I felt like I was meeting so many people that I doubt I'll even remember anyone's names next time around. My roommate never showed back up last night and hadn't returned as of 11:30 this morning. I just assume he succeeded where I'd failed last evening, but who knows.

Definitely agree with this. I feel like if I come back in the fall I'll recognize faces but definitely won't remember names.

I had an interesting roommate experience too...

[Anon.y.mousse.]

overall thoughts guys? pros/cons/takeaways from preview? i was overall very impressed with umich and liked it more than i thought i would.

[chandhi]

Head over heels in love. Pretty sure I'm attending. Just bought a whole lot of stuff from the M Den and took selfies in the law quad lol

I was literally JUST in the M Den lol.

Edit: when you're highkey decided but don't want admissions to know cause they haven't shown you the money yet lol

Haha sounds like they're pretty generous and should help you get some $$$! Wishing you the best of financial aid luck

Also, I don't care too much about outing myself, let's see if I met any of you: I was the (only) one with teal hair.