Harvard C/O 2019 Forum

[R2D7point5]

I encourage everyone who is on campus for ASW this weekend to talk to a lot of students, including those who aren't the ones who are already there to talk to you, about what's going on around campus. If you don't know what I'm talking about yet, you will. It's important and is probably one of the only real things you will see this weekend about the school. But there are a lot of different viewpoints and it's crucial that you hear them all.

Do you think it is something that should dissuade people from attending? Pm if you don't want to post back

Well, the environment on campus certainly isn't healthy so that's a negative. If you guys want fuller discussion you should post in the Harvard student ?s thread

Rather than being cryptic (what's the point of that, exactly?) can you shed some light on what's going on, for those of us who can't make asw?

ETA did some research, background info at HLS record. Clearly not something that should dissuade people from attending, IMO. Not like the Dean is being sued for sexual harassment or anything crazy like that . . .

i saw that one of you guys posted in the harvard student q's thread, but i thought i'd give a diff answer here since the other post didn't mention questions about reclaim specifically. i completely agree with MD that you should make the time to talk to some current students this weekend about reclaim and other things going on around campus. what's happening now will likely continue to affect the environment on campus when you arrive in the fall, long after you've forgotten whatever it is they say to you at asw events. however, i don't think it's something that should dissuade you from coming to hls...it's an important conversation that the campus is having, and it's a conversation that i think many other campuses should be having as well. has it affected the environment on campus? yes, but honestly, if you wanted to avoid it, you could 100% avoid it.

I agree. I'm not letting it influence my decision in the least. If anything, I think it shows a lot of integrity on HLS's part in their willingness to engage in meaningful discussion and change the shield. They easily could've stopped the movement from putting up all of these signs and stuff during ASW, but they allowed it and that speaks volumes to me.

[TripTrip]

3L here. The Reclaim movement is different because it's well organized and has occupied the student lounge, but it's not odd for a strong movement to buzz around HLS every year. It usually stirs a healthy discussion.

Campus-wide policy discussions are so common that Professor Nesson teaches a course every year with a changing title (now "Fair Trial") that has no syllabus and instead is just three credits of 50 students talking about the issues of the day (so a lot of the course material this term was Reclaim). If you're around Monday at 1pm you can come to it; they won't put it on the official visit list but if you PM me I'll tell him you're coming. He'd love it. It won't be like a "real" 1L class but you can see what all the 2Ls and 3Ls actually do all semester.

[Oskosh]

3L here. The Reclaim movement is different because it's well organized and has occupied the student lounge, but it's not odd for a strong movement to buzz around HLS every year. It usually stirs a healthy discussion.

Campus-wide policy discussions are so common that Professor Nesson teaches a course every year with a changing title (now "Fair Trial") that has no syllabus and instead is just three credits of 50 students talking about the issues of the day (so a lot of the course material this term was Reclaim). If you're around Monday at 1pm you can come to it; they won't put it on the official visit list but if you PM me I'll tell him you're coming. He'd love it. It won't be like a "real" 1L class but you can see what all the 2Ls and 3Ls actually do all semester.

I was admitted to Harvard prior to the culmination of the shied's trial. When I received my JS2 in January, my parents congratulated me by getting me a beautiful Harvard Law long sleeve shirt that bears the shield. As a 3L, do you think it would be in bad taste if I decide to show up to ASW with the shield? As a lowly 0L I needn't attempt to court disaster by bringing the shirt, right?

[wwwcol]

3L here. The Reclaim movement is different because it's well organized and has occupied the student lounge, but it's not odd for a strong movement to buzz around HLS every year. It usually stirs a healthy discussion.

Campus-wide policy discussions are so common that Professor Nesson teaches a course every year with a changing title (now "Fair Trial") that has no syllabus and instead is just three credits of 50 students talking about the issues of the day (so a lot of the course material this term was Reclaim). If you're around Monday at 1pm you can come to it; they won't put it on the official visit list but if you PM me I'll tell him you're coming. He'd love it. It won't be like a "real" 1L class but you can see what all the 2Ls and 3Ls actually do all semester.

I was admitted to Harvard prior to the culmination of the shied's trial. When I received my JS2 in January, my parents congratulated me by getting me a beautiful Harvard Law long sleeve shirt that bears the shield. As a 3L, do you think it would be in bad taste if I decide to show up to ASW with the shield? As a lowly 0L I needn't attempt to court disaster by bringing the shirt, right?

lol it's fine to wear. Even the Coop is still selling gear with the old shield. And as an aside, most people either don't care about the old shield or are fine with it.

I agree. I'm not letting it influence my decision in the least. If anything, I think it shows a lot of integrity on HLS's part in their willingness to engage in meaningful discussion and change the shield. They easily could've stopped the movement from putting up all of these signs and stuff during ASW, but they allowed it and that speaks volumes to me.

There's no way you would or could know as much as current students about the dynamics of this issue, but fwiw, the suggestion that changing the shield is somehow meaningful is the ultimate irony. Of the demands Reclaim made, this was far and away the least substantive - and it was the only change the law school made. And as for allowing signs to be put up, the administration only allowed the signs to be put up to the extent that they are unwilling to invite controversy by taking them down.

[RZ5646]

Has anyone had luck getting an ASW travel stipend without an LSAC fee waiver? I'm surprised by how expensive travel and lodging is...

[Oskosh]

Has anyone had luck getting an ASW travel stipend without an LSAC fee waiver? I'm surprised by how expensive travel and lodging is...

Did you apply for an LSAC fee waiver? I didn't apply for a fee waiver from them (you have to contact the office), but I reached out to them and they instructed me to fill out documentation that would apprise them of my financial situation. I ended up receiving a $300 stipend for air travel because of distance and demonstrated financial need.

[R2D7point5]

3L here. The Reclaim movement is different because it's well organized and has occupied the student lounge, but it's not odd for a strong movement to buzz around HLS every year. It usually stirs a healthy discussion.

Campus-wide policy discussions are so common that Professor Nesson teaches a course every year with a changing title (now "Fair Trial") that has no syllabus and instead is just three credits of 50 students talking about the issues of the day (so a lot of the course material this term was Reclaim). If you're around Monday at 1pm you can come to it; they won't put it on the official visit list but if you PM me I'll tell him you're coming. He'd love it. It won't be like a "real" 1L class but you can see what all the 2Ls and 3Ls actually do all semester.

I was admitted to Harvard prior to the culmination of the shied's trial. When I received my JS2 in January, my parents congratulated me by getting me a beautiful Harvard Law long sleeve shirt that bears the shield. As a 3L, do you think it would be in bad taste if I decide to show up to ASW with the shield? As a lowly 0L I needn't attempt to court disaster by bringing the shirt, right?

lol it's fine to wear. Even the Coop is still selling gear with the old shield. And as an aside, most people either don't care about the old shield or are fine with it.

I agree. I'm not letting it influence my decision in the least. If anything, I think it shows a lot of integrity on HLS's part in their willingness to engage in meaningful discussion and change the shield. They easily could've stopped the movement from putting up all of these signs and stuff during ASW, but they allowed it and that speaks volumes to me.

There's no way you would or could know as much as current students about the dynamics of this issue, but fwiw, the suggestion that changing the shield is somehow meaningful is the ultimate irony. Of the demands Reclaim made, this was far and away the least substantive - and it was the only change the law school made. And as for allowing signs to be put up, the administration only allowed the signs to be put up to the extent that they are unwilling to invite controversy by taking them down.

I didn't claim to know as much as current students, I only stated my opinion from what I've seen. I'm not incredibly familiar with the movement since this weekend has been my first exposure to it other than the press coverage about changing the shield. However, changing it after that long seems like a step in the right direction to me. Additionally, I don't think it would've been that controversial to shut them out of Ames in the middle of an event (I found it incredibly rude and distracting for them to walk in while faculty members were still speaking).

[-lemonlyman-]

Has anyone had luck getting an ASW travel stipend without an LSAC fee waiver? I'm surprised by how expensive travel and lodging is...

Are you attending the second ASW? Unfortunately it is being held the weekend before Marathon Monday, so hotel prices will be through the roof in Boston / Cambridge for that weekend.

[RZ5646]

Has anyone had luck getting an ASW travel stipend without an LSAC fee waiver? I'm surprised by how expensive travel and lodging is...

Are you attending the second ASW? Unfortunately it is being held the weekend before Marathon Monday, so hotel prices will be through the roof in Boston / Cambridge for that weekend.

Yeah, I was just admitted this week, so unfortunately that was my only option, and now it looks like I might not be able to make it. I'm slightly bummed, but I guess I can always schedule an individual visit over the summer, and seeing the campus wasn't going to influence my decision to attend much anyway. (I'm much more concerned with costs and employment opportunities.)

[cdotson2]

Just booked my flight for the second asw, can't wait to see you guys there!

[Dcc617]

So what are people thinking of doing for housing? Rental prices seem obscenely high from what I've seen so far, and I used to live in Honolulu. I'm looking to spend $1500-2000 on rent, and figured I'd be able to find a 1BR close to campus in that range. Is that just a fever dream?

[Topszn]

So what are people thinking of doing for housing? Rental prices seem obscenely high from what I've seen so far, and I used to live in Honolulu. I'm looking to spend $1500-2000 on rent, and figured I'd be able to find a 1BR close to campus in that range. Is that just a fever dream?

You could probably find one or two 1BRs for a little north of $2,000 close to campus, but its a lot more likely to be a studio. Especially if you go through HUH... Rent is giving me a serious headache so far to say the least.

[Dcc617]

So what are people thinking of doing for housing? Rental prices seem obscenely high from what I've seen so far, and I used to live in Honolulu. I'm looking to spend $1500-2000 on rent, and figured I'd be able to find a 1BR close to campus in that range. Is that just a fever dream?

You could probably find one or two 1BRs for a little north of $2,000 close to campus, but its a lot more likely to be a studio. Especially if you go through HUH... Rent is giving me a serious headache so far to say the least.

That's very depressing, especially since I had been looking at nice apartments in Chicago for like $1200. I wonder what's driving these prices...

[RZ5646]

So what are people thinking of doing for housing? Rental prices seem obscenely high from what I've seen so far, and I used to live in Honolulu. I'm looking to spend $1500-2000 on rent, and figured I'd be able to find a 1BR close to campus in that range. Is that just a fever dream?

You could probably find one or two 1BRs for a little north of $2,000 close to campus, but its a lot more likely to be a studio. Especially if you go through HUH... Rent is giving me a serious headache so far to say the least.

That's very depressing, especially since I had been looking at nice apartments in Chicago for like $1200. I wonder what's driving these prices...

Probably the Harvard students

[TripTrip]

OH!

For anyone: I have a 1BR I'll be giving up across the street from North hall that will be $1800 next year. Lease can start any time in August because I'd rather not move out on the 31st of July. No broker's fee if you go through me, and you can come see it this weekend or next ASW. PM me.

[Dcc617]

So what are people thinking of doing for housing? Rental prices seem obscenely high from what I've seen so far, and I used to live in Honolulu. I'm looking to spend $1500-2000 on rent, and figured I'd be able to find a 1BR close to campus in that range. Is that just a fever dream?

You could probably find one or two 1BRs for a little north of $2,000 close to campus, but its a lot more likely to be a studio. Especially if you go through HUH... Rent is giving me a serious headache so far to say the least.

That's very depressing, especially since I had been looking at nice apartments in Chicago for like $1200. I wonder what's driving these prices...

Probably the Harvard students

[RZ5646]

So what are people thinking of doing for housing? Rental prices seem obscenely high from what I've seen so far, and I used to live in Honolulu. I'm looking to spend $1500-2000 on rent, and figured I'd be able to find a 1BR close to campus in that range. Is that just a fever dream?

You could probably find one or two 1BRs for a little north of $2,000 close to campus, but its a lot more likely to be a studio. Especially if you go through HUH... Rent is giving me a serious headache so far to say the least.

That's very depressing, especially since I had been looking at nice apartments in Chicago for like $1200. I wonder what's driving these prices...

Probably the Harvard students

I know how you feel though. I even hate the fact that I currently pay $600 for a 1BR, so if I go to HLS, it looks like I'm getting lots of roommates.

[TripTrip]

So what are people thinking of doing for housing? Rental prices seem obscenely high from what I've seen so far, and I used to live in Honolulu. I'm looking to spend $1500-2000 on rent, and figured I'd be able to find a 1BR close to campus in that range. Is that just a fever dream?

You could probably find one or two 1BRs for a little north of $2,000 close to campus, but its a lot more likely to be a studio. Especially if you go through HUH... Rent is giving me a serious headache so far to say the least.

That's very depressing, especially since I had been looking at nice apartments in Chicago for like $1200. I wonder what's driving these prices...

Probably the Harvard students

I know how you feel though. I even hate the fact that I currently pay $600 for a 1BR, so if I go to HLS, it looks like I'm getting lots of roommates.

You're not going to get anything for $600 here. Here's what $800 looks like:



Three or four bedroom places are a thing, but you're still not going to be paying $600 for your fraction of the rent.

[curious bobcat]

Okay, okay, okay. I'll be better--I promise. Just don't depose me!

Uhh, what cities are y'all from? Would love to meet up with anyone in Philly!

Also, unrelated, anybody do mock trial in college? Wondering if there'll be any other former competitors at HLS this year.

Resurrecting a dead post, but a mocker can't resist. I'm on my 4th year now, going to Nats in SC in two weeks (which means I unfortunately can't make the ASW).

I wish I were fortunate enough to have Nats as a reason to miss ASW! My last year of mock ended very unceremoniously.

Planning on doing any trial ad-related orgs at HLS?

[Bearlyalive]

Was great getting to meet so many of you this weekend! You're all a wonderful bunch of people (though I already knew you would be). Regardless of where we all end up, I'm looking forward to keeping in touch and taking on law school together.

[lemonparty]

Was great getting to meet so many of you this weekend! You're all a wonderful bunch of people (though I already knew you would be). Regardless of where we all end up, I'm looking forward to keeping in touch and taking on law school together.

+1000000000, you guys are all seriously awesome and I really hope at least some of us end up being classmates but if not we can totally have reunions

Also, my Harvard hype is through the roof after the last two days.

[Interficio]

Anyone having trouble activating their My HLS financial aid account? I keep getting an error message.

Apologies if this has been addressed.

[Topszn]

Anyone having trouble activating their My HLS financial aid account? I keep getting an error message.

Apologies if this has been addressed.

Gotta wait for the Fin Aid email as far as I know

[Hildegard15]

Was great getting to meet so many of you this weekend! You're all a wonderful bunch of people (though I already knew you would be). Regardless of where we all end up, I'm looking forward to keeping in touch and taking on law school together.

+1000000000, you guys are all seriously awesome and I really hope at least some of us end up being classmates but if not we can totally have reunions

Also, my Harvard hype is through the roof after the last two days.

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I absolutely agree. Y'all were lovely and I have no doubt at least a few of us will wind up at the same place. Thanks for helpin make this weekend great!

[WinterComing]

So what are people thinking of doing for housing? Rental prices seem obscenely high from what I've seen so far, and I used to live in Honolulu. I'm looking to spend $1500-2000 on rent, and figured I'd be able to find a 1BR close to campus in that range. Is that just a fever dream?

My situation is unique, since I have a family, but I'm not going to pay Cambridge prices if I end up at Harvard. I'd rather commute in from Somerville, Arlington, or Watertown. This weekend, public transit seemed really doable.