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by Muiraquita » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:24 pm
ssitt wrote:
have you looked into getting your dog registered as an emotional support dog? My friend travels with his massive rottweiler/lab mix simply because he got a psychiatrist to say that the dog helps him with anxiety.
Yea I've looked into it, I'm kind of uncomfortable with using that loophole since I don't actually have any need for it, plus I can't imagine it would be very cheap to fly with her, just space wise haha, also a 100 lb giant shedding dog would seem kinda cruel to the other passengers on a cross-country flight

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by Smallville » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:25 pm
barley wrote:ssitt wrote:
have you looked into getting your dog registered as an emotional support dog? My friend travels with his massive rottweiler/lab mix simply because he got a psychiatrist to say that the dog helps him with anxiety.
That seems.. unethical to do if it's not true.
eh maybe a little, but ya do what ya gotta do. My brother wanted to do that with his dog and tried to train him enough but he had too much energy he couldnt get him to behave enough to try
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by Muiraquita » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:26 pm
Smallville wrote:barley wrote:ssitt wrote:
have you looked into getting your dog registered as an emotional support dog? My friend travels with his massive rottweiler/lab mix simply because he got a psychiatrist to say that the dog helps him with anxiety.
That seems.. unethical to do if it's not true.
eh maybe a little, but ya do what ya gotta do. My brother wanted to do that with his dog and tried to train him enough but he had too much energy he couldnt get him to behave enough to try
Oh if I'd have to train her that'd never happen. She's an old, fat dog. She has no time for my shit.
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by capricasixx » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:29 pm
Smallville wrote:barley wrote:ssitt wrote:
have you looked into getting your dog registered as an emotional support dog? My friend travels with his massive rottweiler/lab mix simply because he got a psychiatrist to say that the dog helps him with anxiety.
That seems.. unethical to do if it's not true.
eh maybe a little, but ya do what ya gotta do. My brother wanted to do that with his dog and tried to train him enough but he had too much energy he couldnt get him to behave enough to try
I would say technically this is true for everyone, since being around pets triggers the release of oxytocin. Like, maybe you don't *need* help with anxiety, but any anxiety you have will be helped...
Around here 2/3 of the people I know have registered their dogs/cats as emotional support animals simply because the housing market is badly weighted in favor of landlords so almost none of them accepts pets, and the ones that do tend to abuse their power by charging extra exorbitant pet rent or additional deposits.
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by darkchildnana » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:31 pm
capricasixx wrote:Smallville wrote:barley wrote:ssitt wrote:
have you looked into getting your dog registered as an emotional support dog? My friend travels with his massive rottweiler/lab mix simply because he got a psychiatrist to say that the dog helps him with anxiety.
That seems.. unethical to do if it's not true.
eh maybe a little, but ya do what ya gotta do. My brother wanted to do that with his dog and tried to train him enough but he had too much energy he couldnt get him to behave enough to try
I would say technically this is true for everyone, since being around pets triggers the release of oxytocin. Like, maybe you don't *need* help with anxiety, but any anxiety you have will be helped...
Around here 2/3 of the people I know have registered their dogs/cats as emotional support animals simply because the housing market is badly weighted in favor of landlords so almost none of them accepts pets, and the ones that do tend to abuse their power by charging extra exorbitant pet rent or additional deposits.
is it bad that I don't think there's anything wrong with it?

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by barley » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:35 pm
capricasixx wrote:Smallville wrote:barley wrote:ssitt wrote:
have you looked into getting your dog registered as an emotional support dog? My friend travels with his massive rottweiler/lab mix simply because he got a psychiatrist to say that the dog helps him with anxiety.
That seems.. unethical to do if it's not true.
eh maybe a little, but ya do what ya gotta do. My brother wanted to do that with his dog and tried to train him enough but he had too much energy he couldnt get him to behave enough to try
I would say technically this is true for everyone, since being around pets triggers the release of oxytocin. Like, maybe you don't *need* help with anxiety, but any anxiety you have will be helped...
Around here 2/3 of the people I know have registered their dogs/cats as emotional support animals simply because the housing market is badly weighted in favor of landlords so almost none of them accepts pets, and the ones that do tend to abuse their power by charging extra exorbitant pet rent or additional deposits.
Eh even though it's technically true, I personally find it unethical to pretend you have a disorder you don't have for your personal convenience. It can inconvenience others (in a plane situation) and if lots of people fake it then it makes people more skeptical/less accommodating of people who actually have a legitimate reason for emotional support animals.
Also pretty sure the FHA doesn't require landlords to accommodate emotional support animals!
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by capricasixx » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:39 pm
barley wrote:capricasixx wrote:Smallville wrote:barley wrote:ssitt wrote:
have you looked into getting your dog registered as an emotional support dog? My friend travels with his massive rottweiler/lab mix simply because he got a psychiatrist to say that the dog helps him with anxiety.
That seems.. unethical to do if it's not true.
eh maybe a little, but ya do what ya gotta do. My brother wanted to do that with his dog and tried to train him enough but he had too much energy he couldnt get him to behave enough to try
I would say technically this is true for everyone, since being around pets triggers the release of oxytocin. Like, maybe you don't *need* help with anxiety, but any anxiety you have will be helped...
Around here 2/3 of the people I know have registered their dogs/cats as emotional support animals simply because the housing market is badly weighted in favor of landlords so almost none of them accepts pets, and the ones that do tend to abuse their power by charging extra exorbitant pet rent or additional deposits.
Eh even though it's technically true, I personally find it unethical to pretend you have a disorder you don't have for your personal convenience. It can inconvenience others (in a plane situation) and if lots of people fake it then it makes people more skeptical/less accommodating of people who actually have a legitimate reason for emotional support animals.
Also pretty sure the FHA doesn't require landlords to accommodate emotional support animals!
Maybe not, but in California I've heard that state disability laws do require it.
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by Sonar80 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:48 pm
Weird question, but in my downtime, I have started thinking about what sort of bag I will use to carry my laptop/books. Where did the Senioritis crowd fall on that, or did we discuss it at all??
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by capricasixx » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:49 pm
Motion to change the inflammatory thread name that unfairly targets a majestic and honorable group of persons?
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by SlithyTove » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:52 pm
capricasixx wrote:Motion to change the inflammatory thread name that unfairly targets a majestic and honorable group of persons?
I second this motion.
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by ugg » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:52 pm
tbf, i'm a ravenclaw
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by barley » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:53 pm
capricasixx wrote:
Maybe not, but in California I've heard that state disability laws do require it.
Oo yeah, that might be true! I don't really know about what specific states have said about it.
But if y'all will indulge my moralistic argument for a second longer b/c I actually feel strongly about this, I think faking an emotional or psychological disorder totally delegitimizes people who actually have those problems. I think most people would agree that pretending to be in a wheelchair to get preferential treatment, for example, would be a p terrible thing to do. The sorts of mental illnesses that actually require emotional support animals are no less 'real' than physical disabilities, but I think people take advantage of the fact that they're less visible/tangible to abuse the loopholes.

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by BirdLawExpert » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:53 pm
Sonar80 wrote:Weird question, but in my downtime, I have started thinking about what sort of bag I will use to carry my laptop/books. Where did the Senioritis crowd fall on that, or did we discuss it at all??
I'm going backpack. I have a thermos and a steel water bottle so I need one with external pockets that are sturdy enough to hold those in when they're full and I'm on my bike. I've got it narrowed down to the Patagonia Black Hole 25L day pack or the North Face Overhaul 40.
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by suralin » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:54 pm
I agree w barley
and a real ravenclaw would totally take tryhard as a compliment amirite
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by Smallville » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:55 pm
Sonar80 wrote:Weird question, but in my downtime, I have started thinking about what sort of bag I will use to carry my laptop/books. Where did the Senioritis crowd fall on that, or did we discuss it at all??
I'll most likely be using the backpack I got in UG that has a laptop spot in it. If I end up using the locker enough to where the backpack is literally holding just my laptop I may look for an alternative but its my game plan for now
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by Sonar80 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:56 pm
BirdLawExpert wrote:Sonar80 wrote:Weird question, but in my downtime, I have started thinking about what sort of bag I will use to carry my laptop/books. Where did the Senioritis crowd fall on that, or did we discuss it at all??
I'm going backpack. I have a thermos and a steel water bottle so I need one with external pockets that are sturdy enough to hold those in when they're full and I'm on my bike. I've got it narrowed down to the Patagonia Black Hole 25L day pack or the North Face Overhaul 40.
I've seen the NorthFace Surge 2 highly recommended as well. I will go with backpack too I think, I'll have lockers and access to my car if I truly need storage.
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by Muiraquita » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:56 pm
Sonar80 wrote:Weird question, but in my downtime, I have started thinking about what sort of bag I will use to carry my laptop/books. Where did the Senioritis crowd fall on that, or did we discuss it at all??
I've got a timbuk2 backpack that's pretty spacious that has a laptop pocket that I plan on using. Especially since I plan on biking to and from campus if I'm not less than a 5 min walk away.
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by Smallville » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:58 pm
BirdLawExpert wrote:Sonar80 wrote:Weird question, but in my downtime, I have started thinking about what sort of bag I will use to carry my laptop/books. Where did the Senioritis crowd fall on that, or did we discuss it at all??
I'm going backpack. I have a thermos and a steel water bottle so I need one with external pockets that are sturdy enough to hold those in when they're full and I'm on my bike. I've got it narrowed down to the Patagonia Black Hole 25L day pack or the North Face Overhaul 40.
I vote the black hole... mainly bc the NF looks like the backpacks I remem from grade school where those few kids that carried every single book they owned and had a big overly packed bag, and the Patagonia looks a little less like it, and I like the top of it
pretty sure I have Dakine Mission Pack 25L
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by capricasixx » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:02 pm
barley wrote:capricasixx wrote:
Maybe not, but in California I've heard that state disability laws do require it.
Oo yeah, that might be true! I don't really know about what specific states have said about it.
But if y'all will indulge my moralistic argument for a second longer b/c I actually feel strongly about this, I think faking an emotional or psychological disorder totally delegitimizes people who actually have those problems. I think most people would agree that pretending to be in a wheelchair to get preferential treatment, for example, would be a p terrible thing to do. The sorts of mental illnesses that actually require emotional support animals are no less 'real' than physical disabilities, but I think people take advantage of the fact that they're less visible/tangible to abuse the loopholes.

I don't disagree! But bear with me here - by the same token, couldn't one argue that the fact that those sorts of mental illnesses are less visible/tangible means that there are probably quite a number of sufferers going about their lives undiagnosed? Or that it's possible to know oneself well enough to "self-diagnose" and "self-medicate" by understanding that one is helped by a support animal? And if so, how could a landlord or anyone else question that and attempt to argue the opposite side?
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by slippin_jimmy » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:03 pm
Ugh I hate to be ~on topic~ but are there any good resources floating around TLS re: budgeting/reducing your borrowing? Looking at the projected COA for my school and trying to see how much I can cut, etc. I did a quick google and obviously understand basic budgeting.... but I'm just lookin for more things to read.
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by Smallville » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:06 pm
slippin_jimmy wrote:Ugh I hate to be ~on topic~ but are there any good resources floating around TLS re: budgeting/reducing your borrowing? Looking at the projected COA for my school and trying to see how much I can cut, etc. I did a quick google and obviously understand basic budgeting.... but I'm just lookin for more things to read.
One of the fin aid dudes I talked to at a ASW said you could just go, cut the amount and then re-add $ up till the last day of class (I would assume first semester but no clue) so you would at least have a decent idea of what you would need total
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by barley » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:06 pm
capricasixx wrote:barley wrote:capricasixx wrote:
Maybe not, but in California I've heard that state disability laws do require it.
Oo yeah, that might be true! I don't really know about what specific states have said about it.
But if y'all will indulge my moralistic argument for a second longer b/c I actually feel strongly about this, I think faking an emotional or psychological disorder totally delegitimizes people who actually have those problems. I think most people would agree that pretending to be in a wheelchair to get preferential treatment, for example, would be a p terrible thing to do. The sorts of mental illnesses that actually require emotional support animals are no less 'real' than physical disabilities, but I think people take advantage of the fact that they're less visible/tangible to abuse the loopholes.

I don't disagree! But bear with me here - by the same token, couldn't one argue that the fact that those sorts of mental illnesses are less visible/tangible means that there are probably quite a number of sufferers going about their lives undiagnosed? Or that it's possible to know oneself well enough to "self-diagnose" and "self-medicate" by understanding that one is helped by a support animal? And if so, how could a landlord or anyone else question that and attempt to argue the opposite side?
Oh I'm not talking about people (like landlords) "policing" it, or people who legitimately think they need one. My issue is with people who think "Gee I want to be able to fly with my dog" or "Hmm it sure would be nice if I didn't have to pay a deposit to keep my pet in my apartment" and decide to fake it for their own convenience.
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by barley » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:09 pm
suralin wrote:I agree w barley
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by capricasixx » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:13 pm
barley wrote:capricasixx wrote:barley wrote:capricasixx wrote:
Maybe not, but in California I've heard that state disability laws do require it.
Oo yeah, that might be true! I don't really know about what specific states have said about it.
But if y'all will indulge my moralistic argument for a second longer b/c I actually feel strongly about this, I think faking an emotional or psychological disorder totally delegitimizes people who actually have those problems. I think most people would agree that pretending to be in a wheelchair to get preferential treatment, for example, would be a p terrible thing to do. The sorts of mental illnesses that actually require emotional support animals are no less 'real' than physical disabilities, but I think people take advantage of the fact that they're less visible/tangible to abuse the loopholes.

I don't disagree! But bear with me here - by the same token, couldn't one argue that the fact that those sorts of mental illnesses are less visible/tangible means that there are probably quite a number of sufferers going about their lives undiagnosed? Or that it's possible to know oneself well enough to "self-diagnose" and "self-medicate" by understanding that one is helped by a support animal? And if so, how could a landlord or anyone else question that and attempt to argue the opposite side?
Oh I'm not talking about people (like landlords) "policing" it, or people who legitimately think they need one. My issue is with people who think "Gee I want to be able to fly with my dog" or "Hmm it sure would be nice if I didn't have to pay a deposit to keep my pet in my apartment" and decide to fake it for their own convenience.
I guess what I'm getting at is, maybe there are grey areas. If one is close enough with one's pet to feel that it is absolutely indispensable in his life and during travel, perhaps there's a good reason for that even if he hasn't been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder or anything else. We've all got issues and we all find ways to cope.
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