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What are you doing this summer?

Big Firm
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32%
Med/Small Firm
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Government
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22%
Judicial
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13%
Non-Profit
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Other
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Re: Abandon A1L Hope, Ye Who Enter Here (1L thread)

Post by BirdLawExpert » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:34 pm

schocolate wrote:has the election changed anyone's law school plans?
JAG is off the table for me, now. I'm not voluntarily entering a chain of command with Donald Trump at the top.

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Post by beenoparte125 » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:16 pm

BirdLawExpert wrote:
schocolate wrote:has the election changed anyone's law school plans?
JAG is off the table for me, now. I'm not voluntarily entering a chain of command with Donald Trump at the top.
I found this article to be very helpful in my internal struggle about this same topic:

https://www.lawfareblog.com/more-donald ... department

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Re: Abandon A1L Hope, Ye Who Enter Here (1L thread)

Post by foregetaboutdre » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:11 pm

BirdLawExpert wrote:
schocolate wrote:has the election changed anyone's law school plans?
JAG is off the table for me, now. I'm not voluntarily entering a chain of command with Donald Trump at the top.
As someone with a deep military family - the chance a JAG officer (regardless of branch) sees anything close to combat is about as remote as you can get. Honestly if that was the case - shit has hit the fan in that locale or there's another draft.

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Re: Abandon A1L Hope, Ye Who Enter Here (1L thread)

Post by BirdLawExpert » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:37 pm

foregetaboutdre wrote: As someone with a deep military family - the chance a JAG officer (regardless of branch) sees anything close to combat is about as remote as you can get. Honestly if that was the case - shit has hit the fan in that locale or there's another draft.
I've already been through the entirety of Air Force ROTC in undergrad and have many friends in the military. The issue isn't being in combat, the issue is that I'm interested in operational law, and I don't want to be involved in enabling operations that I believe to be fundamentally opposed to the nation's interests. Military officers have an obligation to oppose clearly unlawful orders, but must obey all other orders under penalty of court martial; I fully expect Trump to operate in that grey area of morally questionable, but not outright illegal. I don't want to enter that world, and be resigned to repeating, "there's nothing that explicitly forbids that activity" ad nauseam until I separate.
beenoparte125 wrote: I found this article to be very helpful in my internal struggle about this same topic:

https://www.lawfareblog.com/more-donald ... department
Appreciate the article. I feel much the same way about general positions within the bureaucracy of the government (I would have no problem working in federal law enforcement, for instance), but the military is a separate calculation in my head due to the obligation of obeying orders.

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Post by tedler » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:59 am

Obviously not an easy job to get, but the ACLU is going to get a lot of interesting and valuable work going forward. Would be awesome to be a part of that

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Post by Bearlyalive » Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:58 pm

schocolate wrote:has the election changed anyone's law school plans?
Now looking a little bit less seriously at anti-trust law. Seems like there could be some uncertainty in how enforcement changes under Trump. May focus more on USAO.

Not that it matters all that much. Unlikely to get a FedGov job right out of law school anyways, so Trump will unlikely be president when I apply. Probably gotta do my time in Biglaw regardless of who is president.

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Re: Abandon A1L Hope, Ye Who Enter Here (1L thread)

Post by Smallville » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:17 pm

finally getting to work on my final brief for my legal writing class and it is so clear why I held off 2 weeks after getting it to start... this is torture. It doesn't help that I'm starting to get pretty tired but I know this will be the most I get done of it for a bit bc of the way I work but just wanna stop and go to bed

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Post by Bearlyalive » Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:31 am

Been having 6+ hour nightly rehearsals for our Law Revue show. RIP sleep. Thank god I have nothing else this week except class.

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Post by ugg » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:23 pm

tedler wrote:Obviously not an easy job to get, but the ACLU is going to get a lot of interesting and valuable work going forward. Would be awesome to be a part of that
Going to try to get ACLU this summer. When I fail, I'll try 2L

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Re: Abandon A1L Hope, Ye Who Enter Here (1L thread)

Post by Slytherpuff » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:43 pm

ugg wrote:
tedler wrote:Obviously not an easy job to get, but the ACLU is going to get a lot of interesting and valuable work going forward. Would be awesome to be a part of that
Going to try to get ACLU this summer. When I fail, I'll try 2L
Try applying to the Brennan Center as well!

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Post by lymenheimer » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:13 pm

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Re: Abandon A1L Hope, Ye Who Enter Here (1L thread)

Post by ugg » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:37 pm

Slytherpuff wrote:
ugg wrote:
tedler wrote:Obviously not an easy job to get, but the ACLU is going to get a lot of interesting and valuable work going forward. Would be awesome to be a part of that
Going to try to get ACLU this summer. When I fail, I'll try 2L
Try applying to the Brennan Center as well!
Do you have any other suggestions for minded 1Ls interested in gender justice/reproductive rights/civil rights in general??? 8) 8) 8)
I've heard CRR. There are SOO many options and it's hard to sort out which ones are actually worth pursuing.

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Post by Slytherpuff » Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:17 pm

ugg wrote:Do you have any other suggestions for minded 1Ls interested in gender justice/reproductive rights/civil rights in general??? 8) 8) 8)
I've heard CRR. There are SOO many options and it's hard to sort out which ones are actually worth pursuing.
I'll let you know if I can think of some more! I think you should apply broadly and then once you have internship offers, talk to people who worked there previously to see how substantive the summer work actually is.

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Re: Abandon A1L Hope, Ye Who Enter Here (1L thread)

Post by daisrt » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:49 pm

Anyone using audio lectures to supplement their studying? I've found Richard Freer's Law School Legends super helpful.

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Re: Abandon A1L Hope, Ye Who Enter Here (1L thread)

Post by Slytherpuff » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:31 pm

This backfired when I posted in the 2L thread, but I just wanted to see if any 1Ls wanted to take part in TLS Secret Santa this year. The sign-up deadline is coming up soon!

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Post by ChristineBaskets » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:24 pm

Is it normal that this graded memo is causing me physical pain?

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Post by The Abyss » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:24 pm

Final memo submitted. That's one class down for the semester.

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Post by alora » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:38 am

ChristineBaskets wrote:Is it normal that this graded memo is causing me physical pain?
i had to take a break from working on it earlier today when i felt myself getting intensely, physically anxious lmao

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Re: Abandon A1L Hope, Ye Who Enter Here (1L thread)

Post by ugg » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:27 pm

I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing ever and that I must be fucking SOMETHING up, though it's hard to know what

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Post by Wipfelder » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:23 pm

ugg wrote:I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing ever and that I must be fucking SOMETHING up, though it's hard to know what
I've had at least ten section-mates say the same thing. Statistically speaking, at least some of them are wrong.

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Post by tedler » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:53 pm

ugg wrote:I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing ever and that I must be fucking SOMETHING up, though it's hard to know what
Yeah no worries this is a thing

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Post by BirdLawExpert » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:51 am

Every time I feel like I'm about to make a really good point in my final memo:

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Post by alora » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:52 am

how long are your outlines?

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Post by evanesco » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:02 am

alora wrote:how long are your outlines?
Mine are all about 30-40 pages. Then I have a few attack sheets.

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Re: Abandon A1L Hope, Ye Who Enter Here (1L thread)

Post by Smallville » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:31 pm

alora wrote:how long are your outlines?
not very long at all

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