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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by archipm » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:25 pm

I have had better luck with calling them than emailing. Also had the experience of emails getting no response, but I imagine they are getting a LOT of emails right now. The few times I've called them, I have had zero hold time and they have been really helpful.

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by rska884 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:11 pm

Was able to negotiate up from 0 to an amount that works... will be committing later today. So happy, has been my top choice for years now. :) :) :)

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by TheKisSquared » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:17 pm

rska884 wrote:Was able to negotiate up from 0 to an amount that works... will be committing later today. So happy, has been my top choice for years now. :) :) :)
:D :D :D :D
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now here's to hoping on mine....

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by CerealMilk » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:19 pm

If we don't hear back on scholarship options by the deposit deadline of another school are we allowed to put a deposit there until we hear? Does Columbia have any rules against multiple deposits? Thanks!

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by benwyatt » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:23 pm

CerealMilk wrote:If we don't hear back on scholarship options by the deposit deadline of another school are we allowed to put a deposit there until we hear? Does Columbia have any rules against multiple deposits? Thanks!
Columbia does not allow for multiple deposits and reserves the right to revoke your admissions if they find out you've deposited in multiple places.

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by TheKisSquared » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:23 pm

CerealMilk wrote:If we don't hear back on scholarship options by the deposit deadline of another school are we allowed to put a deposit there until we hear? Does Columbia have any rules against multiple deposits? Thanks!
Columbia specifically says you shouldn't double deposit. HOWEVER I don't believe there is an issue if you withdraw from the other school before depositing at CLS. I don't think that's considered double depositing. someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by CerealMilk » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:27 pm

TheKisSquared wrote:
CerealMilk wrote:If we don't hear back on scholarship options by the deposit deadline of another school are we allowed to put a deposit there until we hear? Does Columbia have any rules against multiple deposits? Thanks!
Columbia specifically says you shouldn't double deposit. HOWEVER I don't believe there is an issue if you withdraw from the other school before depositing at CLS. I don't think that's considered double depositing. someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Okay that was my question because I'm sure that I will hear from Columbia before its deposit deadline but I'm not sure if I'll hear before another school's deadline. I was wondering if I could deposit at the other school and then decide whether to go or withdraw based on Columbia's amount before Columbia's deadline. I'll probably call when I get closer to the deadline but it's hard to turn down a really good scholarship at another school without knowing what I would get at Columbia.

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by benwyatt » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:29 pm

CerealMilk wrote:
TheKisSquared wrote:
CerealMilk wrote:If we don't hear back on scholarship options by the deposit deadline of another school are we allowed to put a deposit there until we hear? Does Columbia have any rules against multiple deposits? Thanks!
Columbia specifically says you shouldn't double deposit. HOWEVER I don't believe there is an issue if you withdraw from the other school before depositing at CLS. I don't think that's considered double depositing. someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Okay that was my question because I'm sure that I will hear from Columbia before its deposit deadline but I'm not sure if I'll hear before another school's deadline. I was wondering if I could deposit at the other school and then decide whether to go or withdraw based on Columbia's amount before Columbia's deadline. I'll probably call when I get closer to the deadline but it's hard to turn down a really good scholarship at another school without knowing what I would get at Columbia.
If that's what you're looking at, ask the other school for a deposit extension. It's a pretty common request and you can say "Hey, I still really like your school but this is a big decision and I'm waiting on a particular piece on information from another school and feel like I owe it to myself and the process to carefully weigh all information. Is it possible to have an extension to X Date?"

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by CerealMilk » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:30 pm

benwyatt wrote:
CerealMilk wrote:
TheKisSquared wrote:
CerealMilk wrote:If we don't hear back on scholarship options by the deposit deadline of another school are we allowed to put a deposit there until we hear? Does Columbia have any rules against multiple deposits? Thanks!
Columbia specifically says you shouldn't double deposit. HOWEVER I don't believe there is an issue if you withdraw from the other school before depositing at CLS. I don't think that's considered double depositing. someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Okay that was my question because I'm sure that I will hear from Columbia before its deposit deadline but I'm not sure if I'll hear before another school's deadline. I was wondering if I could deposit at the other school and then decide whether to go or withdraw based on Columbia's amount before Columbia's deadline. I'll probably call when I get closer to the deadline but it's hard to turn down a really good scholarship at another school without knowing what I would get at Columbia.
If that's what you're looking at, ask the other school for a deposit extension. It's a pretty common request and you can say "Hey, I still really like your school but this is a big decision and I'm waiting on a particular piece on information from another school and feel like I owe it to myself and the process to carefully weigh all information. Is it possible to have an extension to X Date?"
Tried that and denied :/ Deadline is Tuesday

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by CerealMilk » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:49 pm

CerealMilk wrote:
benwyatt wrote:
CerealMilk wrote:
TheKisSquared wrote:
CerealMilk wrote:If we don't hear back on scholarship options by the deposit deadline of another school are we allowed to put a deposit there until we hear? Does Columbia have any rules against multiple deposits? Thanks!
Columbia specifically says you shouldn't double deposit. HOWEVER I don't believe there is an issue if you withdraw from the other school before depositing at CLS. I don't think that's considered double depositing. someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Okay that was my question because I'm sure that I will hear from Columbia before its deposit deadline but I'm not sure if I'll hear before another school's deadline. I was wondering if I could deposit at the other school and then decide whether to go or withdraw based on Columbia's amount before Columbia's deadline. I'll probably call when I get closer to the deadline but it's hard to turn down a really good scholarship at another school without knowing what I would get at Columbia.
If that's what you're looking at, ask the other school for a deposit extension. It's a pretty common request and you can say "Hey, I still really like your school but this is a big decision and I'm waiting on a particular piece on information from another school and feel like I owe it to myself and the process to carefully weigh all information. Is it possible to have an extension to X Date?"
Tried that and denied :/ Deadline is Tuesday
Just in case anyone else is curious, I spoke with them and they said that as long as I withdraw before the Columbia deposit deadline I would not technically be making multiple deposits. They understand the need to make an informed decision and said that that was fine .

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by TheKisSquared » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:50 pm

CerealMilk wrote:
Just in case anyone else is curious, I spoke with them and they said that as long as I withdraw before the Columbia deposit deadline I would not technically be making multiple deposits. They understand the need to make an informed decision and said that that was fine .
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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by anonymous117 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:54 pm

Still in disbelief, but checking in!!

I was held and was expecting a reserve at best at this point, so this really shakes up my decision making process. Columbia has always been my dream school, so in the best dilemma ever, now I have no idea what to do :lol:

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by vorely » Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:18 pm

Tried to get them to match NYU's offer and got denied.

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by ih8makingscreennames » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:09 pm

vorely wrote:Tried to get them to match NYU's offer and got denied.
I'm still over here waiting on the mail.

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by MouseRat » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:15 pm

vorely wrote:Tried to get them to match NYU's offer and got denied.
Same.

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by somethingElse » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:21 pm

anonymous117 wrote:Still in disbelief, but checking in!!

I was held and was expecting a reserve at best at this point, so this really shakes up my decision making process. Columbia has always been my dream school, so in the best dilemma ever, now I have no idea what to do :lol:
CONGRATS and welcome!

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by gamerish » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:54 pm

TheKisSquared wrote:
CerealMilk wrote:
Just in case anyone else is curious, I spoke with them and they said that as long as I withdraw before the Columbia deposit deadline I would not technically be making multiple deposits. They understand the need to make an informed decision and said that that was fine .
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I'd imagine you'd still have to keep in mind that many (most?) of the T14 require that you withdraw your other apps after you deposit. While the language allows for keeping your apps open when waiting on a waitlist or initial decision, it's pretty ironclad when it comes to schools you've already been accepted to.

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by Crazy_Eyes » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:01 am

MouseRat wrote:
vorely wrote:Tried to get them to match NYU's offer and got denied.
Same.
Same. :(

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Post by pittsburghpirates » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:34 am

gamerish wrote: I'd imagine you'd still have to keep in mind that many (most?) of the T14 require that you withdraw your other apps after you deposit. While the language allows for keeping your apps open when waiting on a waitlist or initial decision, it's pretty ironclad when it comes to schools you've already been accepted to.
Yeah this is definitely something to think about as well. Think this language is in almost every seat deposit I've seen. But then again, as long as the other school doesn't forbid double deposits, not sure there is any downside to doing this

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by plsdontdingme » Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:53 pm

To all of you who have been trying to get CLS to match an NYU offer, have you all been doing this via email or have you been calling in?

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Post by n.swnsn » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:07 pm

plsdontdingme wrote:To all of you who have been trying to get CLS to match an NYU offer, have you all been doing this via email or have you been calling in?
I emailed with a copy of NYU's offer and got denied. For the other people who couldn't get CLS to match, what are y'all thinking? After visiting both schools, I was really excited about Columbia, but now it feels crazy to turn down money at what seems to be an equal school because I think I might like CLS better.

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Post by darlenealderson » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:16 pm

n.swnsn wrote: I emailed with a copy of NYU's offer and got denied. For the other people who couldn't get CLS to match, what are y'all thinking? After visiting both schools, I was really excited about Columbia, but now it feels crazy to turn down money at what seems to be an equal school because I think I might like CLS better.
I think it comes down to how much of a money disparity there is and what you want to do. If you're sure on biglaw, CLS has an edge, or if it's PI it's NYU. More than that...I think it depends on how much you value each dollar. Personally, I've decided that my preference is probably worth paying $x more a year simply based on the idea that if I'm happier I'll be more successful and my happiness has value, but that's a thought process you have to go through yourself.

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Post by plsdontdingme » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:26 pm

darlenealderson wrote:
n.swnsn wrote: I emailed with a copy of NYU's offer and got denied. For the other people who couldn't get CLS to match, what are y'all thinking? After visiting both schools, I was really excited about Columbia, but now it feels crazy to turn down money at what seems to be an equal school because I think I might like CLS better.
I think it comes down to how much of a money disparity there is and what you want to do. If you're sure on biglaw, CLS has an edge, or if it's PI it's NYU. More than that...I think it depends on how much you value each dollar. Personally, I've decided that my preference is probably worth paying $x more a year simply based on the idea that if I'm happier I'll be more successful and my happiness has value, but that's a thought process you have to go through yourself.
Very good point. It's just so tough for me to turn down a very generous offer from NYU when CLS gave me zero. But then again, I'm fortunate enough to be in this position, so I probably shouldn't complain about it.

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Post by darlenealderson » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:57 pm

plsdontdingme wrote: Very good point. It's just so tough for me to turn down a very generous offer from NYU when CLS gave me zero. But then again, I'm fortunate enough to be in this position, so I probably shouldn't complain about it.
Personally, I think given the minimal difference in job prospects, it can honestly be a toss up between the two, and money is a reasonable way to make a decision...it just depends how generous is generous. Then again, I prefer NYU majorly to CLS so I'm probably the wrong person to answer since I'm already biased, but in my situation I can't imagine choosing NYU if they'd given me 0 and CLS had given me 45k+.

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Re: Columbia Law Class of 2019

Post by crescentstars » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:02 am

darlenealderson wrote:
n.swnsn wrote: I emailed with a copy of NYU's offer and got denied. For the other people who couldn't get CLS to match, what are y'all thinking? After visiting both schools, I was really excited about Columbia, but now it feels crazy to turn down money at what seems to be an equal school because I think I might like CLS better.
I think it comes down to how much of a money disparity there is and what you want to do. If you're sure on biglaw, CLS has an edge, or if it's PI it's NYU. More than that...I think it depends on how much you value each dollar. Personally, I've decided that my preference is probably worth paying $x more a year simply based on the idea that if I'm happier I'll be more successful and my happiness has value, but that's a thought process you have to go through yourself.
I totally agree. I would say it's not even that one has more opportunities in biglaw/PI than the other - I feel like it's that the culture at NYU is pretty PI-friendly while the culture at Columbia is more biglaw-friendly. I got the sense that I could go to Columbia and definitely do super cool PI stuff through their fellowships but I'd just be so much happier doing all of that at NYU.

Also, I got my package from Columbia on Friday and feel like it's not even worth trying to get them to match/consider NYU's (based on everyone's experience ITT). :(

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