Cornell Law Class of 2019 Forum

[HALT_REPTAR]

Any tips on finding housing that's affordable and close to the school that isn't completely terrible and filled with undergrads? Also, are there any reputable landlords such as CTT with more affordable rents even if the amenities aren't there?

[runthetrap1990]

Any tips on finding housing that's affordable and close to the school that isn't completely terrible and filled with undergrads? Also, are there any reputable landlords such as CTT with more affordable rents even if the amenities aren't there?

Craigslist, but you're going to have to do a little work to find the good stuff. In general, it's hard to accomplish all 3 but there should be some properties in the immediate area (around Buffalo, Seneca, and Stewart) that are listed as "grads only" and that will help narrow down the options for you with regard to undergrads.

With regard to terrible housing, usually the lower priced buildings are older or a little more rundown. However, they are not necessarily shitholes. If you aren't too picky these buildings are serviceable. Hopefully you don't end up in a house with bats chilling all day.

[Lavitz]

Any tips on finding housing that's affordable and close to the school that isn't completely terrible and filled with undergrads? Also, are there any reputable landlords such as CTT with more affordable rents even if the amenities aren't there?

Don't have any specific recommendations (especially since I'm not sure what your definition of "close" would be) but I just remembered that we were asked months ago to review housing options on this site: http://www.veryapt.com/Apartments-L4898-ithaca . May be useful.

[proteinshake]

random question but does Cornell's location really keep their median LSAT lower than what it could be? I was looking at employment stuff and noticed that GULC had a median of 170 a few years ago and Cornell had a median of 168 even though Cornell is better ( ) just curious as to why this is. also posted this question here since Lavitz will see it.

[Lavitz]

random question but does Cornell's location really keep their median LSAT lower than what it could be? I was looking at employment stuff and noticed that GULC had a median of 170 a few years ago and Cornell had a median of 168 even though Cornell is better ( ) just curious as to why this is. also posted this question here since Lavitz will see it.

There has been some debate over whether Cornell would be higher ranked in general if it moved to NYC, all else remaining equal. My guess is probably. Although a solid number of people matriculate because of the location (myself included), my guess is there is a larger percentage of the 168+ crowd would find NYC more appealing than Ithaca and thus we'd get a higher median. But all of this is premised on the same exact school (with the same name, history, resources, relationship with employers, campus?) being in a different location, which is an odd hypo.

Alternatively, if global warming greatly improves the weather here, I'm sure that would also help.

[proteinshake]

random question but does Cornell's location really keep their median LSAT lower than what it could be? I was looking at employment stuff and noticed that GULC had a median of 170 a few years ago and Cornell had a median of 168 even though Cornell is better ( ) just curious as to why this is. also posted this question here since Lavitz will see it.

There has been some debate over whether Cornell would be higher ranked in general if it moved to NYC, all else remaining equal. My guess is probably. Although a solid number of people matriculate because of the location (myself included), my guess is there is a larger percentage of the 168+ crowd would find NYC more appealing than Ithaca and thus we'd get a higher median. But all of this is premised on the same exact school (with the same name, history, resources, relationship with employers, campus?) being in a different location, which is an odd hypo.

Alternatively, if global warming greatly improves the weather here, I'm sure that would also help.

I thought so. most of the people who got into GULC probably get into Cornell so I always wondered why so many choose GULC over Cornell. I mean DC is cool but not worth the employment difference imo and I don't think GULC has much of an advantage in terms of DC placement (?). but I guess part of it is also that GULC also accepts huge splitters and Cornell doesn't.

[cantexplaingottago]

I've been wondering something similar about the NYC job placement. Is placement in NYC so high because students attend Cornell with the intention of going to NYC or is it simply because the majority of the school's connections are in the city? I suppose there isn't really a way of finding out.

[Lavitz]

I've been wondering something similar about the NYC job placement. Is placement in NYC so high because students attend Cornell with the intention of going to NYC or is it simply because the majority of the school's connections are in the city? I suppose there isn't really a way of finding out.

Probably a bit of both. If I had to guess, I'd say about 50% of the class that matriculates comes in wanting to go to NYC. This is partly because of the location near NYC, and partly because of the self-fulfilling prophecy where people see that we have good NYC placement, so the people who choose to attend are those who want to work in NYC. Then the other ~15% of people who end up in NYC are likely people who would have preferred to end up somewhere else, but ended up in NYC because it's much easier to get a job there, and perhaps their grades made it difficult to get whatever other market they wanted.

[matterhorn]

What kind of grades do you think I would need to land biglaw in CA (born and raised there)? Cornell is one of my top choices but I know that most of their grads end up going to NY. Would it be a bad gamble to bank on getting CA since I should be assuming I will be at/near median?

[jlk411]

You're right, I'm just not sure how to word it

Did you deposit yet or no? What are your other options? Feel free to pm if you want.

is depositing vs. not leverage?

[somethingElse]

You're right, I'm just not sure how to word it

Did you deposit yet or no? What are your other options? Feel free to pm if you want.

is depositing vs. not leverage?

Depositing is a slight loss of leverage, IMO. You can no longer use the negotiating tactic of "If you give me X moneys I will deposit right now" for one. Also, depositing is just a sign in general that you're OK with going there at the current price tag. Might not well be true for everyone, but you've at least sunk that $500 or so in and that's worth something. It also depends on what the school says regarding double depositing.

[Lavitz]

What kind of grades do you think I would need to land biglaw in CA (born and raised there)? Cornell is one of my top choices but I know that most of their grads end up going to NY. Would it be a bad gamble to bank on getting CA since I should be assuming I will be at/near median?

Preferably top third, but there's no hard and fast rule. You can get CA from median, but it will depend on your interviewing skills and the rest of your resume. Below median is pretty risky, and the further below median you are, the more you'd want to start targeting the less selective NYC firms.

[matterhorn]

Preferably top third, but there's no hard and fast rule. You can get CA from median, but it will depend on your interviewing skills and the rest of your resume. Below median is pretty risky, and the further below median you are, the more you'd want to start targeting the less selective NYC firms.

Thanks for the response!

[eshnunna]

Just put in my deposit yesterday!

I'm trying to decide on housing, and I don't have a car, so: question about this hill. Is the walk up really bad? Like sharp incline + long? Or just a long gentle slope?

I tried to get a gauge for it on google street view but I'm not sure if I'm not really sure what vantage point would give me a good estimate of it.

[Lavitz]

Just put in my deposit yesterday!

I'm trying to decide on housing, and I don't have a car, so: question about this hill. Is the walk up really bad? Like sharp incline + long? Or just a long gentle slope?

I tried to get a gauge for it on google street view but I'm not sure if I'm not really sure what vantage point would give me a good estimate of it.

Depends on which hill. If you're coming up Buffalo, or really up any street off of Stewart (Williams, Seneca, Edgemoor), it's very steep. If you're walking up College Ave, it's more like a long uphill slope. Can't remember how gentle it is since I never really go that way, but it's definitely not as bad as up the other streets. See below.

[jlk411]

can we talk about the winter? when does it start getting super cold/snowy?

[runthetrap1990]

can we talk about the winter? when does it start getting super cold/snowy?

Depends. This year winter weather didn't really hit too hard until late December (when most students were gone), and even then it eased back up and only a small portion of Late-January/Early to Mid February was actually cold and snowy (for Ithaca standards).

However, my 1L year shit hit the fan in early November and we ended up having a February with 28 straight days of snow.

Depends on which hill. If you're coming up Buffalo, or really up any street off of Stewart (Williams, Seneca, Edgemoor), it's very steep. If you're walking up College Ave, it's more like a long uphill slope. Can't remember how gentle it is since I never really go that way, but it's definitely not as bad as up the other streets. See below.

Can confirm. The East Buffalo hill is especially bad (and long) so if you are picking houses, try and keep your selections as East as possible if going up hills is a concern. I know during the early portions of the fall semester, I would be sweating after walking up the hill for class.

[eshnunna]

Depends on which hill. If you're coming up Buffalo, or really up any street off of Stewart (Williams, Seneca, Edgemoor), it's very steep. If you're walking up College Ave, it's more like a long uphill slope. Can't remember how gentle it is since I never really go that way, but it's definitely not as bad as up the other streets. See below.

Can confirm. The East Buffalo hill is especially bad (and long) so if you are picking houses, try and keep your selections as East as possible if going up hills is a concern. I know during the early portions of the fall semester, I would be sweating after walking up the hill for class.

Thanks for all the info! The map is super helpful (I'm pretty terrible with directions and couldn't attend ASD).

It looks pretty doable, but I'm from Seattle and our hills are generally steep. I'm guessing it can be bad in winter if the snow piles up. Do they have pretty regular plowing in that case?

[runthetrap1990]

Depends on which hill. If you're coming up Buffalo, or really up any street off of Stewart (Williams, Seneca, Edgemoor), it's very steep. If you're walking up College Ave, it's more like a long uphill slope. Can't remember how gentle it is since I never really go that way, but it's definitely not as bad as up the other streets. See below.

Can confirm. The East Buffalo hill is especially bad (and long) so if you are picking houses, try and keep your selections as East as possible if going up hills is a concern. I know during the early portions of the fall semester, I would be sweating after walking up the hill for class.

Thanks for all the info! The map is super helpful (I'm pretty terrible with directions and couldn't attend ASD).

It looks pretty doable, but I'm from Seattle and our hills are generally steep. I'm guessing it can be bad in winter if the snow piles up. Do they have pretty regular plowing in that case?

The city is good about plowing and the University is even better (gotta maintain appearances for hefty donations). Sometimes a snow storm will hit in the middle of the day but usually they get things settled relatively soon after.

[lawschooli]

Does anyone know which of 140 Seneca Way, CTT, or 312 College Ave is the best place to live? I don't need the apartment to be furnished so that's not too much of a decisive factor!

[jlk411]

Does anyone know which of 140 Seneca Way, CTT, or 312 College Ave is the best place to live? I don't need the apartment to be furnished so that's not too much of a decisive factor!

Also, I assume IKEA delivers out there?

[cantexplaingottago]

Does anyone know which of 140 Seneca Way, CTT, or 312 College Ave is the best place to live? I don't need the apartment to be furnished so that's not too much of a decisive factor!

Also, I assume IKEA delivers out there?

I've looked into this. They do, but at a premium. I may be making a few runs down to IKEA with my car mid-August. If it's relatively small stuff, I can probably help out.

[runthetrap1990]

Does anyone know which of 140 Seneca Way, CTT, or 312 College Ave is the best place to live? I don't need the apartment to be furnished so that's not too much of a decisive factor!

CTT is real nice. I haven't really heard of 312 College Ave or Seneca besides the fact that 140 Seneca is far (relatively) from campus.

I think a majority of your classmates will end up at CTT because that is essentially the new Hughes.

Also, I assume IKEA delivers out there?

I've heard of it but its expensive as fuhhhhh. I know CTT (and a good chunk of the apartments in Ithaca) will already be furnished so not sure if necessary to pay that much for Ikea.

[jlk411]

Does anyone know which of 140 Seneca Way, CTT, or 312 College Ave is the best place to live? I don't need the apartment to be furnished so that's not too much of a decisive factor!

Also, I assume IKEA delivers out there?

I've looked into this. They do, but at a premium. I may be making a few runs down to IKEA with my car mid-August. If it's relatively small stuff, I can probably help out.

I need a bed it's the one thing im weird about secondhand. But thank you for the offer

[Trippel]

Does anyone know which of 140 Seneca Way, CTT, or 312 College Ave is the best place to live? I don't need the apartment to be furnished so that's not too much of a decisive factor!

Also, I assume IKEA delivers out there?

I've looked into this. They do, but at a premium. I may be making a few runs down to IKEA with my car mid-August. If it's relatively small stuff, I can probably help out.

I need a bed it's the one thing im weird about secondhand. But thank you for the offer

FYI: CTT is currently constructing a new building. I think it will be open by this August. If you live there, the bed will be new.