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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Post by tuxedocat » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:21 am

buckiguy_sucks wrote:
accessislife wrote:I send out thank yous after firm receptions too.. too much?
my confidence in the networking queen shaken

edit: word order my high school english teacher would be ashamed of
But like thank you emails not letters, right? The latter's a little too Joel.

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Post by PeanutsNJam » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:03 pm

After thorough research, it really depends on the firm.

If it's a major firm that hires 50+ SAs, then they're doing at least like 70-80, maybe 100 CBs. You do not need to send thank you emails, since their system is very regimented. They interview you, submit their evaluation, and forget you existed. Even if your Shakespearean thank you letter brings them to tears, if they are not on the hiring committee, it will do you no good. (at big firms like that, they generally aren't on the hiring committee.) At firms like this (Skadden being the frontrunner), you are a number. A cog. Your feelings don't matter, whether positive or negative.

If it's a mid-size to secondary market major firm that hires 2-15 SAs, then they're doing 5-25 CBs. Definitely send thank you emails. Reasons: 1.) It's a smaller pool of applications, so it's impossible that they will be swamped with thank you's and end up hating them. Their work load is also likely much less overbearing than big NYC firms. 2.) Secondary markets (generally) have more personal and hospitable cultures, such as in the South or Midwest, where courtesy is expected. 3.) Often times, at least 1 of your CB interviewer is on the recruiting committee.

Thank yous are appropriate after lunch where the firm/associate/partner pays, obviously.

Firm receptions is way too gunner and tryhard. The exception is a followup email: "Thanks for taking the time to talk to me. I was wondering about XYZ. etc."

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Post by tuxedocat » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:11 pm

Gray wrote:
tuxedocat wrote:
buckiguy_sucks wrote:
accessislife wrote:I send out thank yous after firm receptions too.. too much?
my confidence in the networking queen shaken

edit: word order my high school english teacher would be ashamed of
But like thank you emails not letters, right? The latter's a little too Joel.
Letter is TCR but only if the interviewer made him feel very comfortable
Very comfortable...like a perfectly fitting skin suit

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Post by rubberplant2020 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:43 pm

tuxedocat wrote: Very comfortable...like a perfectly fitting skin suit
Where you the suit or the person doing the fitting. I believe this is very important to solving the issue.

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Post by FloridaCoastalorbust » Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:04 am

mujiali wrote:Thoughts on reasonable amount of time to ask to make a decision on a summer offer (PI not firm)? Waiting on my 1st choice to get back to me. This is my (much lower) 2d choice that offered today.
NALP standards (which don't apply to PI, but you get the idea) are that firms should leave SA offers open for at least 14 days, and permanent offers open for at least 28 days. And if you wanna be a real bitch, the clock starts ticking the day you receive the offer by letter, not the offer by phone.

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Wahrheit wrote:The Grinder is still a guilty pleasure
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DJM wrote:
Wahrheit wrote:The Grinder is still a guilty pleasure
great show!
But, what if it wasn't?
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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

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Wahrheit wrote:
Minnietron wrote:
DJM wrote:
Wahrheit wrote:The Grinder is still a guilty pleasure
great show!
But, what if it wasn't?
I like where you're going with this. Make sure you object to their objections, because they'll be jealous of you.
Let's say You're in a restaurant and Noah Wyle is two tables down. You go into cardiac arrest, you don't think Noah Wyle could step in and help?
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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Post by zhenders » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:31 pm

Winter quarter memo spanked. Time to outline for MOAR EXAMS. Semester folks, don't bother hiding it. I know you're all jealous that we get to take more exams in 5 weeks, and have an extra writing assignment.

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Post by zhenders » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:36 pm

I hear that. For me half of it's psychological; having it "done", even if I still tweak it for the next week, feels much more relaxing. Plus, law school musical is sort of ramping up, so time is getting more valuable already.

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Post by leslieknope » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:29 pm

I started briefing again this semester because during finals I kept being all "I sure wish I briefed instead of annotating!! This would make outlining so much faster!!" Only now I'm remembering why I stopped briefing last semester. You guys, briefing suxxxx.

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Post by Big Red » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:36 pm

leslieknope wrote:I started briefing again this semester because during finals I kept being all "I sure wish I briefed instead of annotating!! This would make outlining so much faster!!" Only now I'm remembering why I stopped briefing last semester. You guys, briefing suxxxx.
I was pretty modest and just told myself I would spend like a hour a week reviewing and start outlining the classes with midterms earlier

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Post by unsweetened » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:39 pm

That sounds horrible. Did you find that you were missing a lot out of your outline last semester?

If its any comfort, I got so many questions completely wrong during a cold call session that I nearly got a standing ovation when I got a question correct the following week. :oops:

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