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Minnietron · Post by **Minnietron** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:45 pm

acr wrote:lol. student next to me forgets his written brief for a case (guy has like 2 page briefs for every case, even cases less than 1 page in the casebook) in class today and has a nervous breakdown. threatens to "email administration and challenge no-laptop policy" if cold-called

I was having a bad day and I was jacked up on caffeine. Give me a break. I wouldn't really have e-mailed the administration. I would've marched straight to the office and demanded to speak with Obama.

landshoes · Post by **landshoes** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:01 pm

no-laptop policies have to suck

we just have no internet which is the best of both worlds

03282016 · Post by **03282016** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:02 pm

KMart · Post by **KMart** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:07 pm

landshoes wrote:no-laptop policies have to suck

we just have no internet which is the best of both worlds

You must not have Starr for Crim haha.

landshoes · Post by **landshoes** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:08 pm

just append "in general" to all my posts dudes

rnoodles · Post by **rnoodles** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:19 pm

Minnietron wrote:
acr wrote:lol. student next to me forgets his written brief for a case (guy has like 2 page briefs for every case, even cases less than 1 page in the casebook) in class today and has a nervous breakdown. threatens to "email administration and challenge no-laptop policy" if cold-called
I was having a bad day and I was jacked up on caffeine. Give me a break. I wouldn't really have e-mailed the administration. I would've marched straight to the office and demanded to speak with Obama.

Thanks Obama.

Big Red · Post by **Big Red** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:47 pm

1 month into lawl school and still getting emails about ubalt open houses

I have a feeling I'm going to be on that dislist for the rest of my life

Calbears123 · Post by **Calbears123** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:59 pm

Follow LRW instructor's direction almost literally on a four page paper, basically plagiarizing my instructor from class. Spend the same amount of space in my paper developing a rule, explaining the rule, and applying to rule to the issue, as my instructor did. Almost copy word for word my instructor's example in class for each paragraph.

Get paper back with an average / below average grade, final comments, I needed to more fully explain the rule and do more application. Bitch please I did basically exactly what you did and used up the maximum amount of space.

Either my LRW instructor is not teaching us correctly, or grading extremely harsh because this assignment was only graded based on completion and the next paper is actually graded. Either way I'm slightly pissed, is there any winning in LRW?

PeanutsNJam · Post by **PeanutsNJam** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:31 pm

Pretty sure LRW is curved so that may be why. For curved papers/exams there's a lot of hide-the-ball going on; if it was as easy as sticking to the example it'd be too hard to grade papers on a curve.

Calbears123 · Post by **Calbears123** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:34 pm

The paper was only worth like 3% of our grade and was only "graded" as in whether you turned it in or not, still not happy tho I'll probably go to my instructors office hours and ask.

unsweetened · Post by **unsweetened** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:01 pm

Sweet. Got tickets to the Brad Paisley Country Nation College Tour.

DJM · Post by **DJM** » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:14 pm

My five min breaks from reading always seem to end up as 'fuck it I'll read in the morning' or ' I'm not gonna read . . . I won't get cold called tomorrow'

KMart · Post by **KMart** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:24 am

DJM wrote:My five min breaks from reading always seem to end up as 'fuck it I'll read in the morning' or ' I'm not gonna read . . . I won't get cold called tomorrow'

Minnietron · Post by **Minnietron** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:07 pm

I'm on call in class tomorrow. Do I stick to my guns/game plan of "I have better uses for my time than learning case-specific minutiae," or do I buckle and throughly re-read the case briefs, cases, and notes? Either way, I will inquire about the positioning of the boundary!

IsThisForReal · Post by **IsThisForReal** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:09 pm

Minnietron wrote:I'm on call in class tomorrow. Do I stick to my guns/game plan of "I have better uses for my time than learning case-specific minutiae," or do I buckle and throughly re-read the case briefs, cases, and notes? Either way, I will inquire about the positioning of the boundary!

Blind grading exists for a reason.

Minnietron · Post by **Minnietron** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:19 pm

IsThisForReal wrote:
Minnietron wrote:I'm on call in class tomorrow. Do I stick to my guns/game plan of "I have better uses for my time than learning case-specific minutiae," or do I buckle and throughly re-read the case briefs, cases, and notes? Either way, I will inquire about the positioning of the boundary!
Blind grading exists for a reason.

Indeed it does! And I have been quick to point this out to several individuals, but when you know you're on call, the calculus changes a bit...

radio1nowhere · Post by **radio1nowhere** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:32 pm

Minnietron wrote:I'm on call in class tomorrow. Do I stick to my guns/game plan of "I have better uses for my time than learning case-specific minutiae," or do I buckle and throughly re-read the case briefs, cases, and notes? Either way, I will inquire about the positioning of the boundary!

Remember the most time-honored TLS maxim ever, for use in all advice-giving situations: Do as I say, not as I do.

landshoes · Post by **landshoes** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:27 pm

I'm pretty jealous of those of you who don't have participation grades (we don't get an explicit grade but our grade can be adjusted up or down at the prof's whim based on participation)

landshoes · Post by **landshoes** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:29 pm

That said, if I knew I were going to be cold called I would definitely adjust my behavior to impress the prof, if I could do it without screwing anything else up too badly. It seems like impressing profs is generally a good idea for future reasons.

Minnietron · Post by **Minnietron** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:40 pm

radio1nowhere wrote:
Remember the most time-honored TLS maxim ever, for use in all advice-giving situations: Do as I say, not as I do.

Touche

landshoes wrote:I'm pretty jealous of those of you who don't have participation grades (we don't get an explicit grade but our grade can be adjusted up or down at the prof's whim based on participation)

Anecdata: I've only found one professor who shows the number/frequency of grade adjustments made per class. Every 2L/3L I've spoken to said that is just a clause to give wiggle room should professors desire to adjust for extreme unpreparedness/absenteeism.

landshoes wrote:That said, if I knew I were going to be cold called I would definitely adjust my behavior to impress the prof, if I could do it without screwing anything else up too badly. It seems like impressing profs is generally a good idea for future reasons.

More 2L/3L anecdata: Professors are significantly more impressed with a top grade than class participation. But if you can do both, why not "wear a belt and suspenders" as my Civ Pro professor is fond of saying!

landshoes · Post by **landshoes** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:48 pm

Yeah, I feel like this may be a school culture thing. My profs have all specifically said that they will adjust grades up for outstanding participation, one of my profs is on the clerkship committee, etc.

And we have definitely had a prof call out a student for always asking dumb questions...so there's the humiliation factor, which I won't pretend doesn't matter to me.

Minnietron · Post by **Minnietron** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:55 pm

All valid factors when deciding your attention to detail for cases! I'm taking the recommendation/learn your prof. through office hours route since I will never get it through class participation.

landshoes · Post by **landshoes** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:57 pm

that's a good point. I kinda have no idea when and where my professors' office hours are and I don't really care to learn so I probably put more weight on class time

FloridaCoastalorbust · Post by **FloridaCoastalorbust** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:30 pm

All of my profs adjust up or down for participation. One has a generous policy of upping your grade by an entire half letter if you participate a shitload, but won't reduce it if you don't participate. I've heard that these policies are just a stick to make sure you don't slack on readings, and they are rarely used to lower grades. In general my profs don't use cold calls to humiliate, which is nice.

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