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Diploma Privilege for DC

Post by Legal Philosopher » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:17 pm

Hello!

In the midst of the pandemic, can the US Congress enact legislation for diploma privilege in DC for everyone???

At least, a lot of people could be Out-of-State attorneys in their own jurisdictions and also can do fed jobs (i.e. Immigration, Bankruptcies)

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Re: Diploma Privilege for DC

Post by nixy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:50 pm

That’s not going to happen.

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Re: Diploma Privilege for DC

Post by polareagle » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:57 pm

Legal Philosopher wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:17 pm
Hello!

In the midst of the pandemic, can the US Congress enact legislation for diploma privilege in DC for everyone???

At least, a lot of people could be Out-of-State attorneys in their own jurisdictions and also can do fed jobs (i.e. Immigration, Bankruptcies)
I mean, it *could* in the same way that it *could* legislate the opening hours of a particular swimming pool (which it once did) or *could* set the speed limit on a neighborhood street because all power over D.C. ultimately rests with Congress.

It won't because that's about the last thing on anyone's mind on the Hill and, with the exception of certain high profile culture war issues like financing of abortion or needle exchanges, Congress generally tries to avoid meddling in local affairs.

And it shouldn't (and would be opposed by the D.C. Bar for sure) because, among other reasons, it makes no sense to saddle one jurisdiction with responsibility for attorney misconduct by thousands of attorneys who will never work in (or maybe even visit) the District. And requiring the D.C. Bar to complete C&F evaluations on these thousands of lawyers would back up a system that already takes way, way too long with just D.C. exam takers and regular waive-ins. The waiver procedure already makes it uniquely easy to join the D.C. Bar--just take *any* other bar exam and you're good!

Also, you can't just be an "out of state" attorney practicing in another jurisdiction--that's unauthorized practice of law. A given judge can admit you pro hac for a given matter, but you're not likely to be going in front of a judge as a first year anyway. You're right that D.C. admission would permit you to practice in bankruptcy or (some) federal courts and do any federal attorney job, but, again, that's not really going to be applicable to a new graduate.

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Re: Diploma Privilege for DC

Post by cavalier1138 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:11 pm

This is a not-great idea, even ignoring the practical difficulties.

I get that COVID-19 has made this year an extremely difficult year for test-takers (and everyone else, not that this seems to matter...), but that doesn't mean that bars like DC and NY should be implementing such extreme solutions. Diploma privilege works when it can be contained and only extended to a select group. NY and DC can't do that in any kind of fair way, because a lot of people who want to practice in those states (and "state") aren't going to school there. But unless the ABA actually starts enforcing standards for schools and shutting down the predatory scams that currently have accreditation, the kind of widespread diploma privilege you imagine is a horrible idea.

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Re: Diploma Privilege for DC

Post by mpi » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:46 pm

DC today granted diploma privilege for 2019/2020 ABA grads who have never taken the bar, as long as they are supervised by a DC attorney with no negative history for 3 years (plus other requirements).

This seems unfair to those who may have graduated in another year and who have not previously taken the bar (or who took but didn’t pass). There seems to be no rational reason for exclusion of these groups, especially if such graduates are already registered for the October bar.

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Re: Diploma Privilege for DC

Post by thriller1122 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:12 pm

nixy wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:50 pm
That’s not going to happen.
Aaaannnd it happened. Admittedly, they found a way to make DP worse than taking the actual bar.

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Re: Diploma Privilege for DC

Post by polareagle » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:58 pm

thriller1122 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:12 pm
nixy wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:50 pm
That’s not going to happen.
Aaaannnd it happened. Admittedly, they found a way to make DP worse than taking the actual bar.
It happened in the sense that DC has provided a diploma privilege option for attorneys planning to practice in DC so long as the person finds a licensed attorney in DC to supervise. That makes sense. The OPs idea, which was to provide universal diploma privilege in DC for attorneys who had no plan to practice in DC, made no sense, is not happening, and will never happen. I think what Nixy was referring to in the post you quoted (and certainly what I was referring to above) was the OP's idea.

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Re: Diploma Privilege for DC

Post by nixy » Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:04 pm

polareagle wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:58 pm
thriller1122 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:12 pm
nixy wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:50 pm
That’s not going to happen.
Aaaannnd it happened. Admittedly, they found a way to make DP worse than taking the actual bar.
It happened in the sense that DC has provided a diploma privilege option for attorneys planning to practice in DC so long as the person finds a licensed attorney in DC to supervise. That makes sense. The OPs idea, which was to provide universal diploma privilege in DC for attorneys who had no plan to practice in DC, made no sense, is not happening, and will never happen. I think what Nixy was referring to in the post you quoted (and certainly what I was referring to above) was the OP's idea.
Yup.

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