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2020 July California Bar Exam
Hi everyone,
This is an unofficial page for the July 2020 California Bar Exam.
A little about myself:
I am a 3rd time retaker and am currently employed at a personal injury firm near Beverly Hills. I have invested so much into this exam, and I am ready to pass. I was within 50 points of passing on my last attempt.
I believe that we can all benefit from helping each other, and so I am willing to provide the resources I have bought, which includes hard copy tactics and online bar essay reviews. I would be happy to study with anyone who has a similar schedule. I am available every day to study but I am limited to after 5pm on weekdays. I can also accommodate anyone’s bar courses because the material is more or less the same.
If anyone lives in LA or near the valley by Woodland Hills, let me know and we can set up times to meet and hold ourselves accountable to studying. This exam takes a toll on everyone but it is passable and I hope this thread can benefit my fellow Californians.
I wish everyone the best of luck in the months ahead.
This is an unofficial page for the July 2020 California Bar Exam.
A little about myself:
I am a 3rd time retaker and am currently employed at a personal injury firm near Beverly Hills. I have invested so much into this exam, and I am ready to pass. I was within 50 points of passing on my last attempt.
I believe that we can all benefit from helping each other, and so I am willing to provide the resources I have bought, which includes hard copy tactics and online bar essay reviews. I would be happy to study with anyone who has a similar schedule. I am available every day to study but I am limited to after 5pm on weekdays. I can also accommodate anyone’s bar courses because the material is more or less the same.
If anyone lives in LA or near the valley by Woodland Hills, let me know and we can set up times to meet and hold ourselves accountable to studying. This exam takes a toll on everyone but it is passable and I hope this thread can benefit my fellow Californians.
I wish everyone the best of luck in the months ahead.
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Re: 2020 July California Bar Exam
Hi All,
I'm taking the bar for the first time in July. Was wondering if anyone had any reviews on John Crossfield? Or Tutoring by Daniel? I'm currently torn between the two and looking to secure a tutor. Thank you!
I'm taking the bar for the first time in July. Was wondering if anyone had any reviews on John Crossfield? Or Tutoring by Daniel? I'm currently torn between the two and looking to secure a tutor. Thank you!
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Having never worked personally with Daniel I don't have direct knowledge but quite often when I'm working with an MBE student who is also taking California, they'll be working with Daniel on the California essays and/or performance tests. Not once have I heard anything less than excellent. So I'm glad to recommend him based on those reviews which have been very consistent.
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Re: 2020 July California Bar Exam
Let’s get down to business fellow CA bar examinee’s, lets start speculating what impact covid is going to have on the exam.
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Anyone have any clue as to when we might here a decision about July 2020 bar exam? I know they had an emergency meeting on Monday but I feel like waiting beyond this week to give some kind of update is crazy, especially since other jurisdictions are making decisions now.
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Re: 2020 July California Bar Exam
According to the NCBE, the decision whether or not to have a July 2020 MBE is set for around May 5. Considering the CA Bar is half MBE, I’d say that’s a safe deadline to know whether there will be a July exam or notAnonymous User wrote:Anyone have any clue as to when we might here a decision about July 2020 bar exam? I know they had an emergency meeting on Monday but I feel like waiting beyond this week to give some kind of update is crazy, especially since other jurisdictions are making decisions now.
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The NCBE has advised that July Bar exams be postponed to either September 9-10, 2020 or September 30-October 1, 2020. Some states have already made arrangements for September. It is likely that most states will pick a later date of the above dates. If CA picks the later, then it will be September 29-30, 2020.diatribe wrote:According to the NCBE, the decision whether or not to have a July 2020 MBE is set for around May 5. Considering the CA Bar is half MBE, I’d say that’s a safe deadline to know whether there will be a July exam or notAnonymous User wrote:Anyone has any clue as to when we might hear a decision about the July 2020 bar exam? I know they had an emergency meeting on Monday but I feel like waiting beyond this week to give some kind of update is crazy, especially since other jurisdictions are making decisions now.
source: http://www.ncbex.org/ncbe-covid-19-updates/
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Cal Board of Trustees to meet April 14 to discuss fate of July 2020 Bar.
https://www.law.com/therecorder/2020/04 ... 403-48681/
https://www.law.com/therecorder/2020/04 ... 403-48681/
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Any word on what happened at the Board of Trustees meeting today, 4/14?
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They want to postpone. Reuter’s article from an hour ago says they will recommend State Supreme Court cancel July.spamalotte84 wrote:Any word on what happened at the Board of Trustees meeting today, 4/14?
Edit: recommend postpone or cancel completely
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Bloomberg News:-wishywashy wrote:They want to postpone. Reuter’s article from an hour ago says they will recommend State Supreme Court cancel July.spamalotte84 wrote:Any word on what happened at the Board of Trustees meeting today, 4/14?
Edit: recommend postpone or cancel completely
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-we ... r-scrapped
Reuter’s:-
https://www.reuters.com/article/lawyer- ... SL2N2C303L
My comment:-
Summary is that it will likely be postponed or deferred till the September 9 and May also be ONLINE(not sure how that will work out). The future of bar exams may be changing. If online, how does the NCBEx come into this?
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LOL, the California Bar sucks. They have basically made no real recommendation that can help students plan their future. If the assumption is that the state bar is going to do whatever they recommend then they haven't done much that is helpful since those are two opposite ends of the spectrum.
Leaving people in limbo because they don't want to be the "bad guy", is ridiculous. Make a fucking decision. No real information or decision out of that meeting but pretty much punting the ball to someone else. The bar is looking useless and fickle here.
I think postponement is the most reasonable answer, but whatever the solution will be, the California bar should have given a definitive recommendation.
Leaving people in limbo because they don't want to be the "bad guy", is ridiculous. Make a fucking decision. No real information or decision out of that meeting but pretty much punting the ball to someone else. The bar is looking useless and fickle here.
I think postponement is the most reasonable answer, but whatever the solution will be, the California bar should have given a definitive recommendation.
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A final decision will be made on April 22.rcharter1978 wrote:LOL, the California Bar sucks. They have basically made no real recommendation that can help students plan their future. If the assumption is that the state bar is going to do whatever they recommend then they haven't done much that is helpful since those are two opposite ends of the spectrum.
Leaving people in limbo because they don't want to be the "bad guy", is ridiculous. Make a fucking decision. No real information or decision out of that meeting but pretty much punting the ball to someone else. The bar is looking useless and fickle here.
I think postponement is the most reasonable answer, but whatever the solution will be, the California bar should have given a definitive recommendation.
Agreed that one clear decision should have been made.
If the online option is picked, any clue on how this works?
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We will know by the end of this MONTH! I just received an email from Merrill Balassone from the Supreme Court that the court will make their decision at the end of the month. The July test by the CA BAR Trustees is recommended to move to Sept and to be ONLINE, with remote proctoring. The press release on their website was just released. Here is the link: http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/docu ... ptions.pdfAnonymous User wrote:Anyone have any clue as to when we might here a decision about July 2020 bar exam? I know they had an emergency meeting on Monday but I feel like waiting beyond this week to give some kind of update is crazy, especially since other jurisdictions are making decisions now.
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Actually, the Supreme Court can accept, modify or reject the Board of Trustees recommendations. Here is the letter to the Supreme Court from the Trustees which was just made public. http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/docu ... ptions.pdfJDMBALLMMS wrote:A final decision will be made on April 22.rcharter1978 wrote:LOL, the California Bar sucks. They have basically made no real recommendation that can help students plan their future. If the assumption is that the state bar is going to do whatever they recommend then they haven't done much that is helpful since those are two opposite ends of the spectrum.
Leaving people in limbo because they don't want to be the "bad guy", is ridiculous. Make a fucking decision. No real information or decision out of that meeting but pretty much punting the ball to someone else. The bar is looking useless and fickle here.
I think postponement is the most reasonable answer, but whatever the solution will be, the California bar should have given a definitive recommendation.
Agreed that one clear decision should have been made.
If the online option is picked, any clue on how this works?
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If you have sat for the bar exam prior, the exam soft for the written portion is probably how it will be tested again. For multiple choice, that option, CA has a job portal that has tests online specific to assessment of a candidates qualifications. I heard that the NCBE has been testing online already with the MPRE, so I do not think the testing platform is that difficult to administer or, for that matter, difficult for the applicant to take the test remotely and online. I have posted the link to the CA Bar Board to the CA Supreme Court in other posts, but I'll post it here as well. Online is the safest method in light of the Covid-19 pandemic for protecting applicants and also ensuring that those that pass are qualified to practice. We will know by month end how the Supreme Court will decide! http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/docu ... ptions.pdfJDMBALLMMS wrote:A final decision will be made on April 22.rcharter1978 wrote:LOL, the California Bar sucks. They have basically made no real recommendation that can help students plan their future. If the assumption is that the state bar is going to do whatever they recommend then they haven't done much that is helpful since those are two opposite ends of the spectrum.
Leaving people in limbo because they don't want to be the "bad guy", is ridiculous. Make a fucking decision. No real information or decision out of that meeting but pretty much punting the ball to someone else. The bar is looking useless and fickle here.
I think postponement is the most reasonable answer, but whatever the solution will be, the California bar should have given a definitive recommendation.
Agreed that one clear decision should have been made.
If the online option is picked, any clue on how this works?
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While the Supreme Court is the final decision maker, it seems likely that they would just rubber stamp whatever recommendation came out out the CA bar, which is why the bar should have had one solid recommendation, so that people in this position had an idea of which way things were likely to go.
The letter IS better than I initially had thought in that regard because it clearly gave a "preferred option" and a "backup option" which is much better because I think it's reasonable to think it's likely that the ca supreme Court will go with the "preferred option" if they can.
Notably, the "cancel" option does not, from my reading, assume that recent graduates will get diploma privileges. That seems unclear, it just sounds like option 2 is just to cancel the exam altogether and administer it in February 2021. It's not clear that that means diploma privileges for June 2020 graduates.
It also seems like the option to work under an attorney might also be provisional and you might just have to take the exam later.
I wonder if there is going to be a massive campaign to the supreme Court now.
The letter IS better than I initially had thought in that regard because it clearly gave a "preferred option" and a "backup option" which is much better because I think it's reasonable to think it's likely that the ca supreme Court will go with the "preferred option" if they can.
Notably, the "cancel" option does not, from my reading, assume that recent graduates will get diploma privileges. That seems unclear, it just sounds like option 2 is just to cancel the exam altogether and administer it in February 2021. It's not clear that that means diploma privileges for June 2020 graduates.
It also seems like the option to work under an attorney might also be provisional and you might just have to take the exam later.
I wonder if there is going to be a massive campaign to the supreme Court now.
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Re: 2020 July California Bar Exam
The big problem with just setting a date in September is that the exam will more than likely have to be online. It's hard to imagine a scenario in which California allows large public gatherings by September. That means that the NCBE/MBE and the California-specific portions will have to be administered online, which no one can confirm will even be feasible.
It would be terrible to allow people to start studying as though the exam will be conducted in early September without being sure it's possible. I can't imagine studying for 8-12 weeks only to find out that the test is canceled the week before it was scheduled.
It would be terrible to allow people to start studying as though the exam will be conducted in early September without being sure it's possible. I can't imagine studying for 8-12 weeks only to find out that the test is canceled the week before it was scheduled.
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I don't know, to me, if they contracted multiple venues and kept people well distanced during the examination I could see it being feasible. Make everyone wear masks. It's only two days and the majority of the time is spent sitting in the examination room. So I think it's possible, but I really don't know. I just think whatever they want to do they need to let people know.Billy Batts wrote:The big problem with just setting a date in September is that the exam will more than likely have to be online. It's hard to imagine a scenario in which California allows large public gatherings by September. That means that the NCBE/MBE and the California-specific portions will have to be administered online, which no one can confirm will even be feasible.
It would be terrible to allow people to start studying as though the exam will be conducted in early September without being sure it's possible. I can't imagine studying for 8-12 weeks only to find out that the test is canceled the week before it was scheduled.
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Cal Sup Ct in a closed meeting today, but I don't think we will hear their decision today--that is, if they even make the decision today
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Agreed. They need to make a decision, and it needs to be one people can reasonably rely on. They ought to be pretty darn sure that a test can take place in some form before they set a date.rcharter1978 wrote:I don't know, to me, if they contracted multiple venues and kept people well distanced during the examination I could see it being feasible. Make everyone wear masks. It's only two days and the majority of the time is spent sitting in the examination room. So I think it's possible, but I really don't know. I just think whatever they want to do they need to let people know.Billy Batts wrote:The big problem with just setting a date in September is that the exam will more than likely have to be online. It's hard to imagine a scenario in which California allows large public gatherings by September. That means that the NCBE/MBE and the California-specific portions will have to be administered online, which no one can confirm will even be feasible.
It would be terrible to allow people to start studying as though the exam will be conducted in early September without being sure it's possible. I can't imagine studying for 8-12 weeks only to find out that the test is canceled the week before it was scheduled.
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According to this, California will not decide until April 30th. They keep pushing the date to let everyone know.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-we ... dmfknX3MZg
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-we ... dmfknX3MZg
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Ok team, now that we know most likely the exam is going to be online on September 9-10, do any of you in the LA County/Ventura County area want to meet and find a quiet isolated indoor area where we can study and take this exam?
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OP, should we change the title to say September?
As usual, I'll drop in some helpful info collected over the years.
Wondering where to start?
I've been hanging around these TLS bar threads since 2013 and have seen the most effective tools that helped people pass the California bar. I've updated the below for your enjoyment.
Recommended resources
These resources seem helpful to CA bar takers. Feel free to suggest your ones you've found helpful!
Extremely detailed guide from a first-time passer of the 2018 CA July bar exam (40.7% pass rate) (forwarded to me by the author)
https://irenehong.co/2019/05/12/the-ult ... -bar-exam/
Previous TLS threads you can dig through for extra help
As usual, I'll drop in some helpful info collected over the years.
Wondering where to start?
I've been hanging around these TLS bar threads since 2013 and have seen the most effective tools that helped people pass the California bar. I've updated the below for your enjoyment.
Recommended resources
These resources seem helpful to CA bar takers. Feel free to suggest your ones you've found helpful!
Extremely detailed guide from a first-time passer of the 2018 CA July bar exam (40.7% pass rate) (forwarded to me by the author)
https://irenehong.co/2019/05/12/the-ult ... -bar-exam/
Previous TLS threads you can dig through for extra help
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