2019 February California Bar Forum

[JakeTappers]

Has anyone ever identified a correlation between character and fitness and passing/failing? I would think not, but the timing of my passing has me hoping

My understanding, in speaking to the state bar about this, is that all packets are processed as received. However, when results are released the representative assigned to your case receives a list of all individuals in their workload who passed the bar and those people are prioritized. They try not to delay a swearing in because of moral character. Keep in mind, I was also told that there is a requisite wait period for review. So someone who submitted their packet a week before results is not going to be pushed to the #1 spot just because they passed.

So, I submitted moral character application roughly 10 months ago. Had a follow up letter I responded to in January or so. Took the bar in Feb. Received positive determination last week. Hope that means something good.

[ReasonablePersonSSC]

Has anyone ever identified a correlation between character and fitness and passing/failing? I would think not, but the timing of my passing has me hoping

My understanding, in speaking to the state bar about this, is that all packets are processed as received. However, when results are released the representative assigned to your case receives a list of all individuals in their workload who passed the bar and those people are prioritized. They try not to delay a swearing in because of moral character. Keep in mind, I was also told that there is a requisite wait period for review. So someone who submitted their packet a week before results is not going to be pushed to the #1 spot just because they passed.

So, I submitted moral character application roughly 10 months ago. Had a follow up letter I responded to in January or so. Took the bar in Feb. Received positive determination last week. Hope that means something good.

Thanks for the helpful information.
It looks likely, JakeTappers, that you will read next week “The name above appears on the pass list” and you will never know your score!

[BrainToast]

Has anyone ever identified a correlation between character and fitness and passing/failing? I would think not, but the timing of my passing has me hoping

My understanding, in speaking to the state bar about this, is that all packets are processed as received. However, when results are released the representative assigned to your case receives a list of all individuals in their workload who passed the bar and those people are prioritized. They try not to delay a swearing in because of moral character. Keep in mind, I was also told that there is a requisite wait period for review. So someone who submitted their packet a week before results is not going to be pushed to the #1 spot just because they passed.

So, I submitted moral character application roughly 10 months ago. Had a follow up letter I responded to in January or so. Took the bar in Feb. Received positive determination last week. Hope that means something good.

I can also confirm my analyst told me those who passed will get bumped to the top.

[DodgerBlues1991]

Has anyone ever identified a correlation between character and fitness and passing/failing? I would think not, but the timing of my passing has me hoping

My understanding, in speaking to the state bar about this, is that all packets are processed as received. However, when results are released the representative assigned to your case receives a list of all individuals in their workload who passed the bar and those people are prioritized. They try not to delay a swearing in because of moral character. Keep in mind, I was also told that there is a requisite wait period for review. So someone who submitted their packet a week before results is not going to be pushed to the #1 spot just because they passed.

So, I submitted moral character application roughly 10 months ago. Had a follow up letter I responded to in January or so. Took the bar in Feb. Received positive determination last week. Hope that means something good.

I can also confirm my analyst told me those who passed will get bumped to the top.

I can confirm, after the july bar, I got approved for my moral character after months of waiting, and still failed the july bar.

[rcharter1978]

Has anyone ever identified a correlation between character and fitness and passing/failing? I would think not, but the timing of my passing has me hoping

My understanding, in speaking to the state bar about this, is that all packets are processed as received. However, when results are released the representative assigned to your case receives a list of all individuals in their workload who passed the bar and those people are prioritized. They try not to delay a swearing in because of moral character. Keep in mind, I was also told that there is a requisite wait period for review. So someone who submitted their packet a week before results is not going to be pushed to the #1 spot just because they passed.

So, I submitted moral character application roughly 10 months ago. Had a follow up letter I responded to in January or so. Took the bar in Feb. Received positive determination last week. Hope that means something good.

I can also confirm my analyst told me those who passed will get bumped to the top.

I can confirm, after the july bar, I got approved for my moral character after months of waiting, and still failed the july bar.

Yeah, I applied for my moral character after I passed and I took close to a year, so I don't think you get bumped up for passing.

[ReasonablePersonSSC]

Has anyone ever identified a correlation between character and fitness and passing/failing? I would think not, but the timing of my passing has me hoping

My understanding, in speaking to the state bar about this, is that all packets are processed as received. However, when results are released the representative assigned to your case receives a list of all individuals in their workload who passed the bar and those people are prioritized. They try not to delay a swearing in because of moral character. Keep in mind, I was also told that there is a requisite wait period for review. So someone who submitted their packet a week before results is not going to be pushed to the #1 spot just because they passed.

So, I submitted moral character application roughly 10 months ago. Had a follow up letter I responded to in January or so. Took the bar in Feb. Received positive determination last week. Hope that means something good.

Thanks for the helpful information.
It looks likely, JakeTappers, that you will read next week “The name above appears on the pass list” and you will never know your score!

JakeTappers, how did you receive the positive determination: by email, by snail mail, by seeing that your status changed on the AIMS system? All or a combination of those methods?

[JakeTappers]

Just email so far.

[hastingsgal]

4 more days! Aaahhhh

[Happy88]

Does anyone know how can I access the AIMS system?

[cob2018]

Has anyone ever identified a correlation between character and fitness and passing/failing? I would think not, but the timing of my passing has me hoping

My understanding, in speaking to the state bar about this, is that all packets are processed as received. However, when results are released the representative assigned to your case receives a list of all individuals in their workload who passed the bar and those people are prioritized. They try not to delay a swearing in because of moral character. Keep in mind, I was also told that there is a requisite wait period for review. So someone who submitted their packet a week before results is not going to be pushed to the #1 spot just because they passed.

So, I submitted moral character application roughly 10 months ago. Had a follow up letter I responded to in January or so. Took the bar in Feb. Received positive determination last week. Hope that means something good.

Thanks for the helpful information.
It looks likely, JakeTappers, that you will read next week “The name above appears on the pass list” and you will never know your score!

JakeTappers, how did you receive the positive determination: by email, by snail mail, by seeing that your status changed on the AIMS system? All or a combination of those methods?

Here was my timeline:

10/24/18 - email: "You have submitted your application for determination"
12/17/18 - email: "the initial processing of the Application for Determination you filed with this office has been complete"
01/12/19-positive determination. I am pretty sure I received an email but I can't find it now lol my status did change to "approved" till 2022 and I got snail mail couple days later

The December email said that "a minimum of 180 days is required to complete the processing of an application," so I was surprised to receive a positive determination in January!

[nowyouscantleave]

Is everyone else's bar exam application status marked as "historical"?

[PassTheCalBar]

Is everyone else's bar exam application status marked as "historical"?

At least mine says "historical."

[DuckDynasty]

Is everyone else's bar exam application status marked as "historical"?

At least mine says "historical."

Does everyone else’s bar exam application include their Applicant Number?

[nowyouscantleave]

Is everyone else's bar exam application status marked as "historical"?

At least mine says "historical."

Does everyone else’s bar exam application include their Applicant Number?

I see mine under details.

I just don't understand why the application wouldn't be under pending. Wtf does historical even mean?

[PassTheCalBar]

Is everyone else's bar exam application status marked as "historical"?

At least mine says "historical."

Does everyone else’s bar exam application include their Applicant Number?

I see mine under details.

I just don't understand why the application wouldn't be under pending. Wtf does historical even mean?

Same. I see mine under details as well. But I do not think it means anything though.

[apprentice2020]

Has anyone ever identified a correlation between character and fitness and passing/failing? I would think not, but the timing of my passing has me hoping

My understanding, in speaking to the state bar about this, is that all packets are processed as received. However, when results are released the representative assigned to your case receives a list of all individuals in their workload who passed the bar and those people are prioritized. They try not to delay a swearing in because of moral character. Keep in mind, I was also told that there is a requisite wait period for review. So someone who submitted their packet a week before results is not going to be pushed to the #1 spot just because they passed.

So, I submitted moral character application roughly 10 months ago. Had a follow up letter I responded to in January or so. Took the bar in Feb. Received positive determination last week. Hope that means something good.

Thanks for the helpful information.
It looks likely, JakeTappers, that you will read next week “The name above appears on the pass list” and you will never know your score!

JakeTappers, how did you receive the positive determination: by email, by snail mail, by seeing that your status changed on the AIMS system? All or a combination of those methods?

Here was my timeline:

10/24/18 - email: "You have submitted your application for determination"
12/17/18 - email: "the initial processing of the Application for Determination you filed with this office has been complete"
01/12/19-positive determination. I am pretty sure I received an email but I can't find it now lol my status did change to "approved" till 2022 and I got snail mail couple days later

The December email said that "a minimum of 180 days is required to complete the processing of an application," so I was surprised to receive a positive determination in January!

Oh man that was fast!

I submitted my application when you received your initial processing letter. I received my initial processing letter in mid January. I hope I get a determination soon but it's probably going to go to 180 days even though I have no arrests, no credit/debt issues, etc.

[lars_08]

Has anyone ever identified a correlation between character and fitness and passing/failing? I would think not, but the timing of my passing has me hoping

My understanding, in speaking to the state bar about this, is that all packets are processed as received. However, when results are released the representative assigned to your case receives a list of all individuals in their workload who passed the bar and those people are prioritized. They try not to delay a swearing in because of moral character. Keep in mind, I was also told that there is a requisite wait period for review. So someone who submitted their packet a week before results is not going to be pushed to the #1 spot just because they passed.

I received an email today from my M/C case investigator. My application was submitted on 11/24 and the 180 days expires on 5/23. I'm just wondering why they'd be asking for supplemental information this late in the process when they're going to release results in 3 days. I hope this means good news, but I really don't want to get my hopes up. Little nervous about the request for supplemental information (yes I've already provided it, so that's off my list). Appreciate any insight from folks. I took the Attorney Exam if that matters in a response. Fingers crossed for everyone.

[DuckDynasty]

Is everyone else's bar exam application status marked as "historical"?

At least mine says "historical."

Does everyone else’s bar exam application include their Applicant Number?

I see mine under details.

I just don't understand why the application wouldn't be under pending. Wtf does historical even mean?

Same. I see mine under details as well. But I do not think it means anything though.

My examination date is listed as 2/22/2019. Is this normal? And for whatever it's worth, my Feb 2019 Cal Bar shows a "Historical" status as well.

[lars_08]

Has anyone ever identified a correlation between character and fitness and passing/failing? I would think not, but the timing of my passing has me hoping

My understanding, in speaking to the state bar about this, is that all packets are processed as received. However, when results are released the representative assigned to your case receives a list of all individuals in their workload who passed the bar and those people are prioritized. They try not to delay a swearing in because of moral character. Keep in mind, I was also told that there is a requisite wait period for review. So someone who submitted their packet a week before results is not going to be pushed to the #1 spot just because they passed.

So, I submitted moral character application roughly 10 months ago. Had a follow up letter I responded to in January or so. Took the bar in Feb. Received positive determination last week. Hope that means something good.

I submitted my application on 11/24 - I believe my 180 days ends sometime at the end of this month. Received an email from my investigator asking for supplemental response to a question today (5/14). I hope this is good news. I don’t know why they’d waste resources on C&F for non-passing candidate especially since results come out on Friday. I’m trying not to read into it too much but I hope this is good news. I did reply to the investigator this evening with the additional docs he wanted.

Response to those who show historical as status - mine shows the same thing.

[Underoath]

Has anyone ever identified a correlation between character and fitness and passing/failing? I would think not, but the timing of my passing has me hoping

My understanding, in speaking to the state bar about this, is that all packets are processed as received. However, when results are released the representative assigned to your case receives a list of all individuals in their workload who passed the bar and those people are prioritized. They try not to delay a swearing in because of moral character. Keep in mind, I was also told that there is a requisite wait period for review. So someone who submitted their packet a week before results is not going to be pushed to the #1 spot just because they passed.

So, I submitted moral character application roughly 10 months ago. Had a follow up letter I responded to in January or so. Took the bar in Feb. Received positive determination last week. Hope that means something good.

I submitted my application on 11/24 - I believe my 180 days ends sometime at the end of this month. Received an email from my investigator asking for supplemental response to a question today (5/14). I hope this is good news. I don’t know why they’d waste resources on C&F for non-passing candidate especially since results come out on Friday. I’m trying not to read into it too much but I hope this is good news. I did reply to the investigator this evening with the additional docs he wanted.

Response to those who show historical as status - mine shows the same thing.

I don't think that has anything to do with it. They asked me for additional documents back in January before I even took the bar. At this rate I think we can all assume that it says "historical". Why stress over pointless things at this point? Two more days.

[PassTheCalBar]

Is everyone else's bar exam application status marked as "historical"?

At least mine says "historical."

Does everyone else’s bar exam application include their Applicant Number?

I see mine under details.

I just don't understand why the application wouldn't be under pending. Wtf does historical even mean?

Same. I see mine under details as well. But I do not think it means anything though.

My examination date is listed as 2/22/2019. Is this normal? And for whatever it's worth, my Feb 2019 Cal Bar shows a "Historical" status as well.

My examination date also says 2/22/2019, but it shouldn't mean anything. My data migration date is listed as 2/23/2019, so it seems that they didn't update the system since February (unless there is any applicant who has data migration date later than February). Two more days! Hope you guys never know the score!

[Ally Mcbeal]

Anyone know if they reach out to your current employer as part of character and fitness? I am out of state and my job doesn’t know I took the bar and am planning to be licensed in CA.

[lars_08]

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Anyone know if they reach out to your current employer as part of character and fitness? I am out of state and my job doesn’t know I took the bar and am planning to be licensed in CA.

Yes. My current employer received the form letter a few months ago.

[sala5150]

This may be a dumb question, but my applicant number begins with four zeros before the last two digits. On the admissions ticket it only has the first two numbers, but on AIMS it has all six. Just for my own peace of mind on friday, should I input only the last two digits or the entire six?

[Kentshindig]

This may be a dumb question, but my applicant number begins with four zeros before the last two digits. On the admissions ticket it only has the first two numbers, but on AIMS it has all six. Just for my own peace of mind on friday, should I input only the last two digits or the entire six?

All six